Feast Days/Solemnities & Lent

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So here’s a question; breaking the fast during Lent. In Canada we have St. Joseph as our Patron Saint, so on his day we get a break from our Lenten fasting if people so choose.

My question(s);
  • On days like this during Lent, do you break your fast?
  • Which feasts/solemnities do you do it on?
  • How far do you think this should go? For example; could a non-Canadian carpenter break his fast on St. Joseph’s day due to him being the patron of his vocation?
 
There is a difference between Solemnities and Feast Days. Solemnities are the upper echelon as far as liturgical feast days go. March 19th is the Solemnity of St. Jospeh. The Annunciation (March 25) is also a Solemnity that almost always falls within Lent. No one should be fasting on those days. You do have to pay attention, though, because if those days fall on a Sunday, the Solemnity is usually transferred to the following Monday.

Take a look at Canon Law (emphasis added):

Can. 1251 Abstinence from meat, or from some other food as determined by the Episcopal Conference, is to be observed on all Fridays, unless a solemnity should fall on a Friday. Abstinence and fasting are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.
 
The first reply made the classic blunder of responding from current discipline to a question on Traditional Catholicism, where people are looking for the (most often) higher standard to which we would like to hold ourselves. Though it may simply have been sloppy terminology, this was signalled by a question about breaking the Lenten fast on St. Joseph - the current canons enjoin fasting only on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday, neither of which can be the feast of St. Joseph.

At any rate, I’ve looked several times for guidance on this issue and have gotten no clear answers. One thing *is *clear, though: the 1917 canons did not dispense from Friday abstinence on solemnities during Lent. (That is to say, that canon reads to the effect of “unless a solemnity should fall on a Friday outside of Lent.”) Dom Gueranger’s liturgical year also makes the observation that, unlike the Byzantines who keep Lent more clear of feasts and are more likely to move those (like our Annunciation) when they intrude, the Romans never had much of a problem with fasting on a solemnity. These two pieces of evidence led me to believe that rules of fast and abstinence were not, traditionally, lifted for solemnities during Lent.

As for my own personal practice, I decided to strike a balance. This past St. Joseph, for instance, I did not avail of the modern dispensation from abstinence, because I was trying to be faithful (as best I know how, which could be wrong) to the traditional norms, but because I also do see the value in expressing our feast days with actual feasting, I tempered the Lenten fast. I still didn’t eat between meals, but instead of a skimpy breakfast and greatly reduced main meal I ate a moderate breakfast and full main meal. It was in some ways a very little change, but it was still noticeable to me because quite intentional.

As to which days one could/should modify one’s Lenten discipline on, I like to use a simple stink test: are you actually observing the liturgical feast somehow, and does it fall into a category that would, traditionally, have elevated the feast’s importance for you? So let’s say, for instance, your parish patron is St. Casimir. Properly speaking, this would make his feast a first class feast/solemnity for you. But if you don’t go to Mass or pray the office (even in private) or somehow participate in the Church’s veneration of Casimir on that day, I don’t think you should be taking advantage of the day to relax your discipline. Let’s say on the other hand that you have a strong devotion to St. Thomas Aquinas, and on his feast day you attend Mass and Office at your parish church, but there is no factor beyond your personal devotion that elevates the importance of that saint’s third class feast/memorial for you. In that case I would also not relax my fasting. Still, those are just my personal guidelines. As long as you can look in the mirror and say you’re being honest with yourself in your decision making, you can’t be faulted for the way in which you follow now-optional disciplines.
 
The first reply made the classic blunder of responding from current discipline to a question on Traditional Catholicism, where people are looking for the (most often) higher standard to which we would like to hold ourselves. Though it may simply have been sloppy terminology, this was signalled by a question about breaking the Lenten fast on St. Joseph - the current canons enjoin fasting only on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday, neither of which can be the feast of St. Joseph.

At any rate, I’ve looked several times for guidance on this issue and have gotten no clear answers. One thing *is *clear, though: the 1917 canons did not dispense from Friday abstinence on solemnities during Lent. (That is to say, that canon reads to the effect of “unless a solemnity should fall on a Friday outside of Lent.”) Dom Gueranger’s liturgical year also makes the observation that, unlike the Byzantines who keep Lent more clear of feasts and are more likely to move those (like our Annunciation) when they intrude, the Romans never had much of a problem with fasting on a solemnity. These two pieces of evidence led me to believe that rules of fast and abstinence were not, traditionally, lifted for solemnities during Lent.

As for my own personal practice, I decided to strike a balance. This past St. Joseph, for instance, I did not avail of the modern dispensation from abstinence, because I was trying to be faithful (as best I know how, which could be wrong) to the traditional norms, but because I also do see the value in expressing our feast days with actual feasting, I tempered the Lenten fast. I still didn’t eat between meals, but instead of a skimpy breakfast and greatly reduced main meal I ate a moderate breakfast and full main meal. It was in some ways a very little change, but it was still noticeable to me because quite intentional.

As to which days one could/should modify one’s Lenten discipline on, I like to use a simple stink test: are you actually observing the liturgical feast somehow, and does it fall into a category that would, traditionally, have elevated the feast’s importance for you? So let’s say, for instance, your parish patron is St. Casimir. Properly speaking, this would make his feast a first class feast/solemnity for you. But if you don’t go to Mass or pray the office (even in private) or somehow participate in the Church’s veneration of Casimir on that day, I don’t think you should be taking advantage of the day to relax your discipline. Let’s say on the other hand that you have a strong devotion to St. Thomas Aquinas, and on his feast day you attend Mass and Office at your parish church, but there is no factor beyond your personal devotion that elevates the importance of that saint’s third class feast/memorial for you. In that case I would also not relax my fasting. Still, those are just my personal guidelines. As long as you can look in the mirror and say you’re being honest with yourself in your decision making, you can’t be faulted for the way in which you follow now-optional disciplines.
So I made the “classic blunder” of answering the question with what the Church actually requires instead of answering with my own personal preference? :confused: I am confused as to why that’s a bad thing… 🤷
 
So I made the “classic blunder” of answering the question with what the Church actually requires instead of answering with my own personal preference? :confused: I am confused as to why that’s a bad thing… 🤷
It’s not a bad thing if the forum is simply “Catholicism” and people are asking about the requirements. But this is the “Traditional Catholicism” forum, and the OP asked about how to observe a fast that does not even exist according to the rules you cited. It happens all the time that people ask how to do X, Y, or Z according to the outdated rules and people answer from the current; I call it a classic blunder because it obviates the point of having somewhere people can talk about Traditional Catholicism.
 
So I made the “classic blunder” of answering the question with what the Church actually requires instead of answering with my own personal preference? :confused: I am confused as to why that’s a bad thing… 🤷
This question keeps coming up, and was dealt with a few months back in this [thread=430548]thread[/thread], among others. Anyway, your post didn’t seem to me to have been a blunder, “classic” or otherwise. 🙂

Whereas there may not have been anything specifically written in law about the matter in the past, (and I have neither the patience nor resources to do extensive research on it), there was practice: for example, Italians are famous for specific sweets (called sfingi and zeppole) for St Joseph’s day. That custom dates back many centuries before the OF and the 1983 CIC, so it would appear that the fasting rules were traditionally relaxed (perhaps “suspended” would be better) for the feast. And, in pre-conciliar times, I seem to recall the nuns saying specifically that Annunciation was also exempt from fasting.
 
During Lent I break my fast on
St. Patrick’s Day - 1st Class Solemnity in the Archdiocese of NY
St. Joseph - 1st Class Solemnity in the Church Universal
Annunciation of BVM - Same as Saint Joseph
 
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