Feedback on lapsed (and in danger of becoming lapsed) Catholics

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In my experience, there are about four kinds of people who grew up Catholic and now are not. There are also people who are still in the Church, but have complained to me about a lack of connection between their life and their faith.

That said, here’s a set of categories that I think describe many of the lapsed, and ideas for outreach…

I have met each of these “types,” which tend to have different reasons or motivations for leaving (or considering leaving) the Church.
(1) Catholics who still attend mass, but who just aren’t getting it or feeling it;
(2) Catholics who don’t attend any religious services, but still self-identify as Catholic;
(3) Catholics who attend religious services with another Christian congregation, and who no longer self-identify as Catholic;
(4) Catholics who don’t attend any religious service, and who no longer self-identify as Catholic.

Type (1) represents Catholics who are still involved in mass, but aren’t getting the connection to their intellectual or emotional lives. I know a number of current and former Catholics who have gone through this stage, and a common theme is that they don’t see the connection between the mass and the rest of their lives. To them, outreach might be best accomplished in an announcement in mass. Depending on your preference, it could be one that gives a light touch to the issue. Something along the lines of this:
“Are you hoping for more meaning in your faith life? Are you seeking connections between what we do here at mass and what you do in the rest of the world? We’ll be starting a new group to get together to weekly sit down with our fellow Catholics who are looking for a way to carry their faith into the rest of their lives. As part of the [new small group program], we’ll be talking about the weekly Sunday readings, sharing our reflections, and hopefully making new friends.”
Personally, I don’t mind being a bit more blunt, but that’s up to you. I’ve got a long history of slogans that grab you, so this could be the “in your face” approach:
“Sit, stand, kneel, leave. Come back seven days later and repeat. If that sounds like your faith life, you’re not alone. We’ll be starting a new group to get together to weekly sit down with fellow Catholics who are looking for a way to connect their faith into the rest of their lives. As part of the [new small group program], we’ll be talking about the weekly Sunday readings, sharing our reflections, and hopefully making new friends.”
Type (2) represents Catholics who, for one reason or another, don’t attend religious services any longer. This could be the people who grew up in “Christmas and Easter” households, and who never saw how faith fit into the rest of their lives. This could include a lot of “spiritual but not religious” people. This could also be people who have been hurt in Catholic schools, parishes, and families. There could also be a lot of people who, for one reason or another, don’t feel welcome in the Church… feminists who protest the Church’s reserving ordination to men, LGBT people, and survivors of abortions, to name a few. Lastly, this group could include people who dismissed the Church because they viewed its teachings as inconsistent with their desired lifestyle. For this group, I’d need to resort to a tactic I’ve used in a lot of community organizing… handing out quarter sheets in public venues like college campuses, main streets of downtowns, public festivals, etc. Again, it would be based on your preferences for how “in your face” to be… along the lines of Pope Francis’ exhortations, something like this might work:
“Does being Catholic mean checking all the boxes on a checklist? Decided that you don’t qualify? Well, that’s not my idea of what it means to be Catholic. You’re invited to come to a [talk by special outreach ministers] or [small group discussion with special outreach ministers], and be the Church again.”
Type (3) represents people who have joined Protestant or evangelical Churches. I know quite a few of these people, and their common refrain is that Protestant preaching appeals to their mind and heart more. They complain that Catholic masses were just rote recitals, with no connection to the Bible. To reach these people, I think the quarter sheet distribution strategy would also work, but with an emphasis on promoting Bible study with Catholics.

Type (4) is people who have tipped into agnosticism or atheism. The odds of reaching these people is remote, but for them, the quarter-sheeting would possibly work. Similar issues as #2 might arise, plus the “new atheist” strain of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Christopher Hitchens might also have motivated them.

These are just thoughts, but I’d welcome your feedback.
 
Good observations. Well, first and foremost, we all realise that the Mass is what we give (worship) not what we want to receive. Having said that, some clergy clearly need to attend public speaking classes. The preaching IS important and more than five minutes of it. Just read Paul’s letters out loud. I’m sure he wrote as he spoke. Also, a few sermons that teach the whats and the whys would not hurt- perhaps on the first Sundays of every month.
 
I’d like to split (1) into three subtypes.

(1a) Goes to Mass on Sundays and Christmas, but hasn’t heard of HDOs.
(1b) Goes to Mass on Christmas and Easter, and occasionally makes it on Sundays, but doesn’t make a point of it.
(1c) Chreasters. Goes to Mass on Christmas and Easter.

And I’ll admit I varied between (1a) and (1b) growing up. I didn’t even learn about HDOs until a year and a half ago.
 
In my experience, there are about four kinds of people who grew up Catholic and now are not. There are also people who are still in the Church, but have complained to me about a lack of connection between their life and their faith.

That said, here’s a set of categories that I think describe many of the lapsed, and ideas for outreach…

I have met each of these “types,” which tend to have different reasons or motivations for leaving (or considering leaving) the Church.
(1) Catholics who still attend mass, but who just aren’t getting it or feeling it;
(2) Catholics who don’t attend any religious services, but still self-identify as Catholic;
(3) Catholics who attend religious services with another Christian congregation, and who no longer self-identify as Catholic;
(4) Catholics who don’t attend any religious service, and who no longer self-identify as Catholic.

(snip)

These are just thoughts, but I’d welcome your feedback.
My thoughts? My thoughts are, have you ever been a lapsed Catholic? Or have you only met each of these “types?”

What you might find amazing, if you actually sat down and spoke with some of these people is that each person is different and unique.

And chances are, they won’t like being put into categories.
 
Let’s pray for all of them that the Holy Spirit will move them to return fully to the church.
 
My thoughts? My thoughts are, have you ever been a lapsed Catholic? Or have you only met each of these “types?”

What you might find amazing, if you actually sat down and spoke with some of these people is that each person is different and unique.

And chances are, they won’t like being put into categories.
Well, I can seee what he’s doing, he’s saying if we as an institution want to reach lapsed Catholics, we have to appeal to them somewhere in the refion of where they are. The invitation is to a situation where they *can *be reached on a more individual basis.

The Legion of Mary’s approach, I think, would be more like yours, where households are contacted directly for evaluation and approach. This too is a good idea.

I’d like to see more teaching of Catholics about how to reach people myself, in various ways, but the reality is that some of the lapsed Catholics I know aretoo set in their ways to listen to a young whippersnapper like me 😉

I think we could probably use a variety of approaches, but the most important aspect of any endeavor along these lines would be prayer.
 
this guy studied in Stubenvill Ohio - 4 the priest hood-- and was part of the 1967 charasmetic movement

he discovered that the catholic college DID NOT teach and instruct the priests in how to operate and function in the 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit- that led him to find other teachers-

A Gilded Walk
The Path to Heaven
By Jerry McDermott

A GILDED WALK: ON AND OFF THE ROAD TO PARADISE is about a journey, your journey as well as the author’s.

It’s called LIFE. And since our actions determine how the journey proceeds and how it ends, it’s worth some planning.

The author explains how he handled the curves and the high-speed roads and bumps along the way. It is basically a matter of power: God’s power to help you grow in the Christian faith and to help others follow that path.

As your reading progresses, you will learn about: the Lord’s guidance from childhood the many side roads that can detour life how God wants to travel with you how being saved isn’t optional how this is just the first step of the journey the depth of journeys in the kingdom the Holy Spirit as tour director
Thankfully, our Lord is not only forgiving, but died that we all might live.

Think of how Christ forgave Peter for his lack of trust and forgave Paul for persecuting Christians. Therefore, this is the story of a life not always on the path, but always being led back to the straight road toward Him.
 
My thoughts? My thoughts are, have you ever been a lapsed Catholic? Or have you only met each of these “types?”
I’m a revert. Spent 6 years away from the church in my 20s. Now, I’m kind of an evangelical Catholic, trying to bring people back.

I’ve spoken with many lapsed Catholics, and had a chance to hear some very intimate details. Some of these conversations have been among friends, others among fellow reverts, and still others through debates I’ve had with Protestants, atheists, etc.
What you might find amazing, if you actually sat down and spoke with some of these people is that each person is different and unique.
And chances are, they won’t like being put into categories.
Well, I can say that when I tell my own story of why I left the church, people certainly respond. When I tell the story of what brought me back, the same. I’m not saying that there are “types,” but that there are common themes in the reasons for which many leave the church.

I’m not suggesting we pack a bunch of people into boxes and then blah, blah, blah the same message to all of them. Evangelization is fundamentally about developing a relationship with the person, being the bearer of the Kingdom of God, and opening yourself to them as they open themselves to you. That’s an inherently intimate and personal thing. Our relationship with God is one of the most central things of our being, and it’s crazy to think that anyone can be won over with marketing slogans targeted toward their “type.” It takes one-on-one (or small group) discussion and dialogue, give and take.

But fundamentally, what I’m saying is that we can’t treat all the lapsed as though they’re a uniform mass. Someone who just thinks that faith is about repetition with no connection to their outside life is very different from the gay 20 year old who thinks that God hates him, who’s very different from high school student who decides she’s an atheist after reading a Sam Harris book that tells him that neuroscience proven that all religious experience is a product of the biology of our minds. Each one of these represents real people I know. You can’t handle them the same way. I’m just trying to point that out.
 
I’m a revert. Spent 6 years away from the church in my 20s. Now, I’m kind of an evangelical Catholic, trying to bring people back.

I’ve spoken with many lapsed Catholics, and had a chance to hear some very intimate details. Some of these conversations have been among friends, others among fellow reverts, and still others through debates I’ve had with Protestants, atheists, etc.

Well, I can say that when I tell my own story of why I left the church, people certainly respond. When I tell the story of what brought me back, the same. I’m not saying that there are “types,” but that there are common themes in the reasons for which many leave the church.

I’m not suggesting we pack a bunch of people into boxes and then blah, blah, blah the same message to all of them. Evangelization is fundamentally about developing a relationship with the person, being the bearer of the Kingdom of God, and opening yourself to them as they open themselves to you. That’s an inherently intimate and personal thing. Our relationship with God is one of the most central things of our being, and it’s crazy to think that anyone can be won over with marketing slogans targeted toward their “type.” It takes one-on-one (or small group) discussion and dialogue, give and take.

But fundamentally, what I’m saying is that we can’t treat all the lapsed as though they’re a uniform mass. Someone who just thinks that faith is about repetition with no connection to their outside life is very different from the gay 20 year old who thinks that God hates him, who’s very different from high school student who decides she’s an atheist after reading a Sam Harris book that tells him that neuroscience proven that all religious experience is a product of the biology of our minds. Each one of these represents real people I know. You can’t handle them the same way. I’m just trying to point that out.
I must have read your OP the wrong way.

I got from it, that most lapsed Catholics fit into 4 categories. And you seemed to be giving ideas about how to deal with each type. :shrug;
 
For each type, how many of them actually took some time to learn about their faith? When I hear people say they arent getting anything out of the Mass, I want to ask, "what are you putting into it?? It is actually rather frustrating and irritating, and when people do nothing to try to understand their faith they are admitting they have the faith of children, which is NOT the same thing as child-like faith that Christ talks about. I mean they are acting more like a child than an adult! We still need to reach out to fellow Catholics who seem to be slipping away, definitely. We want them! But I think we also need to remind people they need to grow up a little and take some initiative and ownership instead of expecting to be spoon fed. Many Protestant churches are really good at spoon feeding theology and fellowship. But even there people move on from church to church because they are still not being “fed”. Its time we expect adults to act like adults.
 
For each type, how many of them actually took some time to learn about their faith? When I hear people say they arent getting anything out of the Mass, I want to ask, "what are you putting into it?? It is actually rather frustrating and irritating, and when people do nothing to try to understand their faith they are admitting they have the faith of children, which is NOT the same thing as child-like faith that Christ talks about. I mean they are acting more like a child than an adult! We still need to reach out to fellow Catholics who seem to be slipping away, definitely. We want them! But I think we also need to remind people they need to grow up a little and take some initiative and ownership instead of expecting to be spoon fed. Many Protestant churches are really good at spoon feeding theology and fellowship. But even there people move on from church to church because they are still not being “fed”. Its time we expect adults to act like adults.
I think you make a really good point here.

My road back to the Church was circuituous, and one of the stops I made was a tiny mainline church which had Bible Study for the adults during The children’s Sunday school. In context of your post, I see that the children saw that tyeir religious education would not stop when they graduated from SS–even adults needed to continue to learn.

My children had one teacher at CCD who taught them about the structure of the Bible, so that they would be able to look things up.

So maybe we need to have more adult stuff–when the children can see it!–as well as teaching the students about resources.
 
I recommend Lighthouse Catholic Media CDs (lighthousecatholicmedia.org/). You can purchase them and pass them out to people. They are great for starting conversations. Not everyone is a reader, but most people will listen to a CD. I have had great conversations as a result of these CDs, and my mom has started coming back to the Catholic Church in part because of some of these CDs.

Just a thought about a really practical thing to do to help people learn about their faith.
 
There are also Catholics who don’t lose their faith so much as they just lose the practice of their faith. If they would just try to go to Mass three or four times during the upcoming Lent - just try that - they may come to realize what they’ve been missing and start going to Sunday Mass regularly.
 
“We the laity have a very important role in our Church. We do not have the right to be silent, because the Lord has sent us out, as all the baptized, to go forth and announce the Good News. We do not have the right to absorb all this knowledge and not share it with others, and to allow our brothers to die of hunger when we have so much bread in our hands."

We cannot watch our Church crumble as we stay comfortable in our parishes and homes, receiving and receiving so much from the Lord: His Word, the Mercy of God in the Sacrament of Reconciliation, the marvelous union with the nourishment of Communion, and so much more.
In other words, we are receiving so much and we do not have the courage to leave our comfort zone…

The hour in which we currently live does not allow us to be indifferent. We must be an extension of the hands of our priests and go where they cannot reach. But for this, we need courage. And that courage comes from Jesus." -Catalina
 
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