Feeling a little lost...

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I grew up Catholic and for a short time was Mormon and came back to the Catholic Church. I don’t know why but lately I have been feeling really lost. I am going to college with a major in Religious Studies. I love it and know God wants me there but I think I am getting swept up in the Evengelical movemrnt (like Kirk Carmeron)

I met the Duggars in 2007 and sometimes I wonder if they are interpreting the bible in a better way than I am. But then I think of course thats is crazy because the Catholics compiled the bible and such. I don’t know I just feel lost… Kirk Cameron on his special meantioned that Catholics were part of the lost that need to be saved. I used to think people who believed in God would be saved (like Muslims and Jews) but now I just don’t know. What should I do. I hate feeling so disconnected…
 
Patty,

Spend time everyday before the Blessed Sacrament. Know that you are in the presence of Christ Jesus. This is something that Kirk Cameron and the evangelical movement cannot offer and do not understand. You are in my prayers.
 
Trust Jesus. He promised you the Gates of Hell would not prevail over His Church that He founded on St. Peter the Rock. And lo! 2000 years later the Catholic Church keeps going and going… And Peter’s successor, Pope Benedict, continues to strengthen the brethren as our Lord promised. It’s like Jesus knew the end from the beginning or something! 😉 God knows what He is doing, all you have to do is trust that He gave us a way to know the truth with certainty. And that is through the Catholic Church, the pillar and foundation of the truth. As St. Augustine wisely put it: “Believe so that you may understand.”
 
I can understand - been there done that, but want to caution you to follow Jesus and not a personality. You mentioned Kirk 2x (I read all the ‘Left Behind’ books and even watched the movies - they fascinate me) and the Duggars. What you need to discern for yourself is , is that Jesus on the altar at Mass and is it his body & blood, soul and divinity you partake of at the Euachrist (sp). If the answer is yes, then with Jesus in the Catholic Church is where you need to be.
And watch yourself that you don’t go native. I have Master Degrees in Sociology of Religion and Religious Studies - I joined the LDS church during this time - enough said.
PM if you want to talk.
God Bless!
 
I grew up Catholic and for a short time was Mormon and came back to the Catholic Church. I don’t know why but lately I have been feeling really lost. I am going to college with a major in Religious Studies. I love it and know God wants me there but I think I am getting swept up in the Evengelical movemrnt (like Kirk Carmeron)

I met the Duggars in 2007 and sometimes I wonder if they are interpreting the bible in a better way than I am. But then I think of course thats is crazy because the Catholics compiled the bible and such. I don’t know I just feel lost… Kirk Cameron on his special meantioned that Catholics were part of the lost that need to be saved. I used to think people who believed in God would be saved (like Muslims and Jews) but now I just don’t know. What should I do. I hate feeling so disconnected…
If you still consider yourself Catholic, I’d recommend “simply” continuing to practice your Catholic faith. Be active in your parish (worship, community, service, and education). Get to know–in person–other Catholics with whom you are comfortable and can share and talk about your faith concerns. This will help you explore, understand, and resolve the issues you mention.

I was about to say “practicing” Catholics, but shoot, in my mind we’re all practicing. I assume most of us don’t quite get it all, yet.

Best wishes.
 
When I was going off to college, the simple advice dad gave me was that in college, you’re going to find people with extreme views … college magnifies that sort of thing.

I suppose simply being aware of that helped me recognize and be aware of all the radicalism, so that when I came across it I wasn’t taken in.

Also helpful to me was that I lived at home and commuted to the university classes rather than living in the dorms, and I continued to attend Mass every Sunday like a regular person in the company of my family rather than being exposed to the weekend parties on campus with all of the accompanying spiritual battles.

Stay close to Mass and the Sacraments!

~~ the phoenix
 
I live at home and go to mass every week

I am a practicing Catholic
 
I grew up Catholic and for a short time was Mormon and came back to the Catholic Church. I don’t know why but lately I have been feeling really lost. I am going to college with a major in Religious Studies. I love it and know God wants me there but I think I am getting swept up in the Evengelical movemrnt (like Kirk Carmeron)

I met the Duggars in 2007 and sometimes I wonder if they are interpreting the bible in a better way than I am. But then I think of course thats is crazy because the Catholics compiled the bible and such. I don’t know I just feel lost… Kirk Cameron on his special meantioned that Catholics were part of the lost that need to be saved. I used to think people who believed in God would be saved (like Muslims and Jews) but now I just don’t know. What should I do. I hate feeling so disconnected…
At one time I wondered where God was. There were so many things going wrong w/ me and my spouse (cancer, neurological disease, degenerative bone disorder, etc.), and God seemed far away.

One day, on the way up to Communion, it hit me. It was a “Duh” moment for sure. I was wondering where God was, and, as usual, he was there in the Eucharist, waiting for me to realize it again. It was amazing how calming truly knowing it was. I actually smiled on the way up, realizing how stupid I’d been. I could have told you all about the Eucharist, of course, by my emotions were getting in the way of really knowing the truth about the Eucharist.

God is always waiting for us, and is never far from us. We just forget, while we’re wrapped up in ourselves, in our emotions, that God is where he always was.

God is patient, and he never turns away from us. IMO, when we have doubts, it’s not because we’re learning something new, but because we have forgotten what we used to know.

Kirk Cameron, though he is sincere, can’t offer anything to compare to the Eucharist.

I think Kirk Cameron was a wild as a teen and young adult, and found a way of controlling himself in a OSAS religion of exclusion (the saved vs the damned). He didn’t seem to have adequate self-control before finding his new religion. It works for him. I’ve seen many people who were drug addicts, sexually loose, gamblers, or alcoholics find solace in a OSAS type religion. It’s the assurance they need to keep going. It seems that they can’t handle the fact that they have to “pesevere to the end”. They seem to need an answer to the future, today. The offer of Salvation isn’t enough for them. They have to know that they are OSAS. Without that, they say, they would revert to their old ways. Knowing for sure that they are OSAS, they say, is how they can stay on the right path. If they didn’t know for sure, they would fall back into their old ways. IMO,they don’t trust God or themselves. It’s as if they’re afraid that if they don’t get the deal sealed and in writing now, God will rescind his offer, or they will fail to hold up their end of the deal. Ironically, though they say that OSAS is evidence that they have true faith in Jesus, it’s the opposite. They are so fearful about their salvation that they want to seal the deal now. They don’t have confidence in God’s offer of salvation. They are full of anxiety over the knowledge that they might mess up again. If they know that they are OSAS no matter how much they mess up, they can relax. Once they have the assurance of acceptance into Heaven, the fear is gone, and they actually behave better. This isn’t confidence in God’s promise. This is distrust. They can’t trust Jesus. They want a definite answer NOW. They want the pay check before they’ve finished the job, because they’re afraid the boss will find too much fault in their perfomance and won’t pay them in the end. IMO, OSAS, is all about fear and doubt, not about faith and confidence.

The Duggers. Aren’t they the ones who dress their daughters in “modesty suits” to swim, and whose sons are forced to look at the ground when passing women that don’t meet the approval of the parents? They have a code word that the girls say whenever a woman of that sort is approaching, and the boys are supposed to look at the ground (or away?) until the woman passes. These are the people who don’t let their toddlers dance to the tunes on musical baby toys
 
When I was going off to college, the simple advice dad gave me was that in college, you’re going to find people with extreme views … college magnifies that sort of thing.

I suppose simply being aware of that helped me recognize and be aware of all the radicalism, so that when I came across it I wasn’t taken in.

Also helpful to me was that I lived at home and commuted to the university classes rather than living in the dorms, and I continued to attend Mass every Sunday like a regular person in the company of my family rather than being exposed to the weekend parties on campus with all of the accompanying spiritual battles.

Stay close to Mass and the Sacraments!

~~ the phoenix
I gave similar advice to my son before he went off to college.

When I was in college I had a professor who argued that the Soviet Union’s political system was far superior to the US’s and that it would outlast the US. I knew enough not to argue with him–my grade depended on it–but he sure suckered-in a bunch of naive students. He had most of the class agreeing with him.

My son was armed with that story when he left for school. I’m sure that it has helped him realize that everything a professor says isn’t neccessarily correct.

Luckily he majoring in a subject that has few classes where professors have an opportunity to go off on political or social tangents. Mathematical proofs don’t lend themselves to tangential discussions on comparative governmental systems. 🙂
 
At one time I wondered where God was. There were so many things going wrong w/ me and my spouse (cancer, neurological disease, degenerative bone disorder, etc.), and God seemed far away.

One day, on the way up to Communion, it hit me. It was a “Duh” moment for sure. I was wondering where God was, and, as usual, he was there in the Eucharist, waiting for me to realize it again. It was amazing how calming truly knowing it was. I actually smiled on the way up, realizing how stupid I’d been. I could have told you all about the Eucharist, of course, by my emotions were getting in the way of really knowing the truth about the Eucharist.

God is always waiting for us, and is never far from us. We just forget, while we’re wrapped up in ourselves, in our emotions, that God is where he always was.

God is patient, and he never turns away from us. IMO, when we have doubts, it’s not because we’re learning something new, but because we have forgotten what we used to know.

Kirk Cameron, though he is sincere, can’t offer anything to compare to the Eucharist.

I think Kirk Cameron was a wild as a teen and young adult, and found a way of controlling himself in a OSAS religion of exclusion (the saved vs the damned). He didn’t seem to have adequate self-control before finding his new religion. It works for him. I’ve seen many people who were drug addicts, sexually loose, gamblers, or alcoholics find solace in a OSAS type religion. It’s the assurance they need to keep going. It seems that they can’t handle the fact that they have to “pesevere to the end”. They seem to need an answer to the future, today. The offer of Salvation isn’t enough for them. They have to know that they are OSAS. Without that, they say, they would revert to their old ways. Knowing for sure that they are OSAS, they say, is how they can stay on the right path. If they didn’t know for sure, they would fall back into their old ways. IMO,they don’t trust God or themselves. It’s as if they’re afraid that if they don’t get the deal sealed and in writing now, God will rescind his offer, or they will fail to hold up their end of the deal. Ironically, though they say that OSAS is evidence that they have true faith in Jesus, it’s the opposite. They are so fearful about their salvation that they want to seal the deal now. They don’t have confidence in God’s offer of salvation. They are full of anxiety over the knowledge that they might mess up again. If they know that they are OSAS no matter how much they mess up, they can relax. Once they have the assurance of acceptance into Heaven, the fear is gone, and they actually behave better. This isn’t confidence in God’s promise. This is distrust. They can’t trust Jesus. They want a definite answer NOW. They want the pay check before they’ve finished the job, because they’re afraid the boss will find too much fault in their perfomance and won’t pay them in the end. IMO, OSAS, is all about fear and doubt, not about faith and confidence.

The Duggers. Aren’t they the ones who dress their daughters in “modesty suits” to swim, and whose sons are forced to look at the ground when passing women that don’t meet the approval of the parents? They have a code word that the girls say whenever a woman of that sort is approaching, and the boys are supposed to look at the ground (or away?) until the woman passes. These are the people who don’t let their toddlers dance to the tunes on musical baby toys
yep those are the same Duggars. I met them in 2007
 
I live at home and go to mass every week

I am a practicing Catholic
Well, this sounds good. You say in your first post that you feel disconnected?

How about joining a Catholic organization or group in your parish? Maybe it can help. But if it’s not for you, I completely understand. I’m a middle-aged single Catholic woman, and in my experience it’s tough to be accepted in a parish if you’re unmarried, even if you get active and join groups or attend Donut Sundays like everyone says to do, so I offer this advice on the chance that it may work out better for you than it has for me.

It’s worked out better for me to just attend Mass on Sundays and instead of staying for Donut Sunday, go out into nature for horseback riding … or with my camera and get involved in landscape photography … As it happens, it turns out I’m now an artist and am currently selling my photos as well as showing them at art exhibitions. Not all of us are social butterflies, but there are other ways to find our niche and share our talents.

Right now, I am in fact active in my parish, but in a far more contemplative way, one that does not lend itself well to meeting people, but one where it seems I fit: Eucharistic Adoration. I’m on the parish’s Eucharistic Adoration Team and am scheduled for Sunday nights between 11:00 p.m. and midnight.

Grace builds on nature. What are you interested in, and how could you use that to serve the Lord?

~~ the phoenix
 
I am listening to Scott Hahns conversion story. This is helping A LOT!
 
Hey Patty,
I think I’ve recommended this book before, but the one that helped me from the “Left-behind” evangelical stuff that is so convincing and drew me was by Jeff Cavins. It’s called “My Life On The Rock-- A Rebel Returns To The Catholic Church”.

Praying for you here! And the Eucharist is pretty much for me the clincher. 😉

in Christ
Steph
 
Ya that is what draws me back too. The Euchorist. It is just too hard to leave 😉

I will have to check out the book
 
Patty,
I understand your struggles, and I commend you that your commitment to Christ is such that you are seeking answers. Having spent my teenage years in what was essentially the Evangelical/Fundamentalist branch of Protestantism (the lines are getting blurier and blurier, it seems to me) I would encourage you not to go that route.
I recognize that some of what they teach is appealing, but (in my experience, anyway) it is also extremely “pharisiac.” (sp?) In my experience with them, not only are they extremely legalistic, but they are also not very tolerant of what they call “stumbling” or “backsliding.” There is a sort of “social excommunication” for those who fail to live up to the moral standards a Christian is supposed to live up to in their eyes (which is a fairly arbitrary notion of righteousness, I’ve found). I won’t sit here and say that all Evangelicals are like that, but that was my experience with it (and many others I know).
Since your still in college, you’re being exposed to a lot of different ideas, and your mind is growing and being challenged immensely. That, I would guess, is contributing to the feeling of being lost, but I encourage you to persevere and unite these feelings to the cross. When I was experiencing that in college, I essentially became a practical agnostic and denied myself the treasures of grace Our Lord offers us for many years, and I beg you not to make that mistake. However, much of the reason I quit practicing Christianity was because of my disillusionment with Evangelicalism.
I do not wish to speak ill of any Evangelicals you might know or that you are discussing these matters with, I only caution you against following that path. They are, I’m guessing, well meaning and honest people, but they lack the fullness of truth that Holy Mother Church has. I say that having taken the long road from there to Rome, so I’m fairly familiar with both sides of the discussion.
If your struggles are half as painful as mine were when I was in my early years of college, then I am sure this is an emotionally draining time for you. Take heart in the knowledge that it is often these periods of hardship that draw us closer to Christ, and pray with confidence for his comfort and guidance.
Also, I encourage you to speak with your Preist (or someone else who is well-informed in the area of apolegetics) to find out what the Church teaches regarding Biblical passeges the Evangelicals are exploring with you. Learning Church history and Church teachings can also help reaffirm your faith in the Church as well. Karl Keatings Catholicism and Fundamentalism would be a good place for you to start, as Evangelicalism is essentially just the modern term for the old Fundamentalist movement.
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions for me, or if you just want to chat about your struggles in this area. I shall be praying for you.
Tyson
 
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