Feelings about leaving lds for catholic

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Jodi,
Welcome. I am a convert myself. I was a Protestant minister. Stingray doesn’t know what he is talking about. You will not find us like the lds church. I love being Catholic.
 
I think Jodi was looking for a little support and got a nice protestant Catholic debate for her efforts. Stay on course Jodi and may God bless you and yours. Your in the right Church, I hope you go to Eucharistic adoration on a regular basis it’s a great way to recieve the Eucharist before confirmation and has helped me in a big way in my conversion. Some churches have it available 24-7 if you check around.

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Stingray:
Jodi,

Congratulations on leaving the LDS! Unfortunately, you’ve decided to join the CC which is very similar to the LDS with regards to its many false teachings. I’m just curious, how long had you been out of the LDS before you decided to join the CC? …else. Here is a very good website that ministers to people who have had experiences similar to yours: ptm.org/ Check it out if you get a chance.

“Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.” Matthew 11:28

God bless,
Stingray
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Stingray,

You seemed surprised that your simple post got such a response. I’ve underlined and bolded the things which I found offensive.

I also went to the link you provided and watched numerous times (to ensure I understood fully what it was saying) the video clip for “Bad News Religion” to promote the book by Greg Albrecht.

A couple of things I found worth commenting on there:
  1. "…all we do falls short of God’s perfection [TRUE]
  2. "and nothing we do, be it good or bad, changes His love for us [TRUE]
  3. "or His willingness to accept us. [also TRUE]
  4. ", no matter how many bad or evil things you’ve done, no matter how much pain or s uffering you’ve caused in your own life or that of others. [TRUE, although one must confess one’s sins, do penance and seek to amend one’s ways to receive God’s forgiveness. Alternatively, one can be perfectly contrite, but I’d rather go for the known grace of confession.]
  5. "God’s Grace completely covers you and forgives you. [FALSE]
God’s grace doesn’t COVER us, it converts us. We are made worthy of salvation by the very nature of Christ’s incarnation. It was because God humbled himself in the nature of humanity that we are worthy of joining Him in heaven. It is Christ’s sacrifice that paid the debt of our sins. It is our joining in that sacrifice that sanctifies us and the whole world.

CARose
 
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I wasted twenty years of my life in no church, mistakenly believing that I didn’t need any religion. I told myself that I was a good person, a good citizen and didn’t need organized religion.
The worst thing is that I was privileged to have been raised a Catholic and didn’t understand that privilege, even threw it away!
When I returned to Catholicism, I found myself regretting that I had lost so much time, my children were not baptized until they were nearly teenagers, and my marriage is not sacramental. I envied those who never lost their faith, I watched young couples with their babies in church and felt so sad that I had never had the experience of a church community when my own were little.
I didn’t let this mar my newfound faith though. I jumped right in and joined some of the social and charitable organizations and in no time felt like I fit in and had been there forever.

Now, I thank God that He gave me enough time to come home. I am so grateful that I didn’t die before I knew the truth and before I could start my kids on the road to a faith filled life. Don’t lose more time on regret. Jump boldly into the church and all it has to offer and give thanks that unlike many, you have been given the grace to see the true light of Christ in this world.

As for your family, I still have five sisters that have either gone to another church or don’t practice any religion. I just pray for them and try to be an example of the peace and joy that Christ offers through His church.

God bless you on your journey and welcome home!
 
Jodi, I am sorry that the poster Stingray has not helped you or anyone with his anti-Catholic diatribe.

Stingray, on another thread, has said that he is here on Catholic Answer Forum to lure away as many Catholics as he can. Yes he said that.

Contenue to pray, go to visit the tabernacle, Jesus wants you to visit Him.
 
Jodi,
Specifically to the anger you feel, read the psalms. They are filled with words of righteous anger and eventually, God’s triumph. When I am angry, the psalms help me to eventually let go of the anger.

Although the anger was about something different, I once was tremendously angry with a woman who said false things about me and treated me horribly. Our children were on the same baseball team and I had no choice but to put up with her.

Reading the psalms, there was one particular one, about God smiting down my enemies and people seeing I (David) was the righteous one. That was a real comfort to me. And eventually, the truth did come out, she was banned from the field and my anger was gone.

This was serious anger too. I remember after a particularly horrible time, I prayed not that God would send her to hell, but if she was going, I be allowed to throw her in the pit. I truly believed and still believe this woman was possessed. (I used to call her demon spawn.)

I am even uncomfortable writing about this now, because it seems so far away now. Now I can even pray that God can help her for she is truly lost.

Turn to God in the psalms. Through the words God can help you to feel better and eventually, heal the anger.

Welcome home.

God Bless,
Maria
 
I went to mass today and loved it. I am starting the R.C.I.A. process and I am learning allot. I have to admit to being uncertain about trusting myself so soon to another religion but one story keeps comming to mind. To paraphrase a man had seven demons cast out of him. He was instructed to fill the space with good works or the demons would go out and come back with friends and fill that space and his lot would be more miserable than before.

I feel like I have exorsized a demon of sorts. If I don’t fill that space with the true love of Christ I shudder to think what might move in to take its place. As for the not looking around I did call one protestant minister and have him try and explain how the tree could be bad (catholism) and the branches (protestants) be healthy.

Logic dictates that if the tree is bad than the branches are lost having no roots to sustain them. But if it is a good tree, bad brances may need to be removed to preserve the life of the tree. So if the great apostacy is true than all are lost and no truth exists. But if is untrue than only one church can hold the truth (catholics) and they (protestants) have cut themselves off from the roots of Jesus.

Now I am still very immature in my knowledge of the church but it makes only logical sense to continue as I have started. Logic, and using my mind in spiritual matters wasn’t highly encouraged in the l.d.s. ward I came from. I am encouraged that the priest here finds no questions to be wrong if asked with real desire to know the truth.

I have a real desire to come to know my God. I am glad that I have the opportunity now to see him more clearly.
 
only one church can hold the truth (catholics) and they (protestants) have cut themselves off from the roots of Jesus.
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For anyone interested, I’ve started a new thread to respond to Stingray’s original post on this thread. It can be found under the topic of: Catholic view of salvation vs. “Bad News Religion” view.

“Bad News Religion” is the title of a book the Plain Truth Ministries is hawking, at the website link Stingray provided. There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding of the Catholic Position going on there.

Jodi,

I’m sorry for your pain, fear and anger. Understand that these are all a part of the human condition and as much as I’d love to say, “Well, you’re Catholic now, so no more worries, your life will be all peaches and cream”, this would be a false illusion and I’m not big on that stuff.

Life will continue to be a struggle, but now you should be starting to understand that God is in charge, even when you struggle, and there is something you will learn through the difficulties you encounter. In the meantime, offer up your pain and suffering, you’re in a unique position to join Christ in his pain.

I too suffer the knowledge that people I know and love, most especially my family, as well as many close friends, are outside the church. Consider poor Christ. Every one of us is precious in His sight, and he not only felt the pain of their sin, he knew who would die while still outside His saving grace.

Pray for them, as Christ has prayed for us all and know that God’s wisdom and mercy are infinite, as he is Love.

I think the suggestion that you pray the Psalms is an excellent one and thank you for coming here with your concerns.

CARose
 
For anyone interested, I’ve started a new thread to respond to Stingray’s original post on this thread. It can be found under the topic of: Catholic view of salvation vs. “Bad News Religion” view. forum.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=42733

“Bad News Religion” is the title of a book the Plain Truth Ministries is hawking, at the website link Stingray provided. There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding of the Catholic Position going on there.

Jodi,

I’m sorry for your pain, fear and anger. Understand that these are all a part of the human condition and as much as I’d love to say, “Well, you’re Catholic now, so no more worries, your life will be all peaches and cream”, this would be a false illusion and I’m not big on that stuff.

Life will continue to be a struggle, but now you should be starting to understand that God is in charge, even when you struggle, and there is something you will learn through the difficulties you encounter. In the meantime, offer up your pain and suffering, you’re in a unique position to join Christ in his pain.

I too suffer the knowledge that people I know and love, most especially my family, as well as many close friends, are outside the church. Consider poor Christ. Every one of us is precious in His sight, and he not only felt the pain of their sin, he knew who would die while still outside His saving grace.

Pray for them, as Christ has prayed for us all and know that God’s wisdom and mercy are infinite, as he is Love.

I think the suggestion that you pray the Psalms is an excellent one and thank you for coming here with your concerns.

CARose
 
Jodi, Welcome!!! I’m very excited for you! My husband, a convert to the Catholic faith, and his most of his family live in Salt Lake City and surrounding suburbs. We visit there often. Most are Protestant, a few are Mormons.

I can relate to your anger; I have regrets, too.

If I understand your post, you’re anxiously awaiting when you can receive Jesus in the Eucharist. I can relate to that, too. Well, I was baptized a Catholic when I was a baby, didn’t practice the faith, and at age 47, God led me to the Catholic Church and I decided to go through RCIA. But since I had never had first communion as a child, I had to wait until that Easter for receiving the Eucharist! I was impatient, too.

One of the 12 Fruits of the Holy Spirit is patience. Pray to the Holy Spirit for patience.

Do you have a Catholic prayer book? Catholic prayers are fulfilling because we have so many Saints, Mary, plus of course we pray to God and Jesus, too. Not a dull moment! Ha ha!

PRAYER BOOK: “The Catholic Book of Prayers: Popular Catholic prayers arranged for everyday use.” Edited by Rev. Maurus Fitzgerald, O.F.M. Illustrated. Catholic Book Publishing Co., New Jersey. 1973. Reprinted 2000. In Large Print. a small pocket book. Common prayers, daily prayers, Order of the Mass, the Creed, Eucharistic Exposition prayers, confession prayers, and devotional prayers. Devotional prayers are to Jesus, Mary and Joseph, the Holy Spirit, and the saints. Available at www.EWTN.com and maybe Catholic Answers, too.
 
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Stingray:
the CC…is very similar to the LDS with regards to its many false teachings.
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Jodi: Welcome home. Have some tea:

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First of all, a heads up to you: You will meet several people on this board who spew anti-Catholic venom. You can usually tell who they are because of the following behaviour:

– Their claims are not supported by argumentation or authority.

–They relanguage Scripture to suit their own interpretations.

– They evade questions and instead choose to lecture, always moving on to new material when their claims are dismantled. Sometimes they just persist in tautology.

– They cannot and will not recognize that their insistence on Scripture-only has no basis in Scripture.

– They post strawmen. That is, they post false information about Catholicism and then proceed to argue against Catholicism on the basis of that false information.

– Sometimes they pretend to be Catholic. Their ignorance of Catholicism soon betrays them, however.

– They pose as ‘expert interpreters’ and, when their fields of expertise are tested, they come up short.

– They oscillate between genteel sycophancy and sarcasm, sometimes even verbal abuse.

– Rather than say ‘point taken’ or ‘fair enough’ or ‘I’m sorry I went overboard’ they attack, accusing Catholics of giving offence when none was given. Sometimes they apologize for something and then immediately repeat the offence without batting an eyelid. Sometimes they just plain run away.

Not all non-Catholics are anti-Catholic, however. I am sure you will find some discussions here enlarging and comforting. God bless you. Ani.
 
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Jodi:
As for the not looking around I did call one protestant minister and have him try and explain how the tree could be bad (catholism) and the branches (protestants) be healthy.

Logic dictates that if the tree is bad than the branches are lost having no roots to sustain them. But if it is a good tree, bad brances may need to be removed to preserve the life of the tree. So if the great apostacy is true than all are lost and no truth exists. But if is untrue than only one church can hold the truth (catholics) and they (protestants) have cut themselves off from the roots of Jesus.
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I love your explanation of how you came to the Church. Stay strong and best of luck in your growth! However, it would be wrong to assume that all Protestants are cut off from the roots of Christ. When they left the Church, they brought with them many of the same beliefs. They simply lack the “fullness” that they can have with the Church. They’re still branches, perhaps just not getting the amount of “sunlight” that they could be. Maybe that is why there are now over 34,000 denominations of Protestantism today.
 
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Jodi, I am sorry that the poster Stingray has not helped you or anyone with his anti-Catholic diatribe.

Stingray, on another thread, has said that he is here on Catholic Answer Forum to lure away as many Catholics as he can. Yes he said that.

Contenue to pray, go to visit the tabernacle, Jesus wants you to visit Him.
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Your charge is completely false and I am extremely dissapointed that you would sink to such a level. I will be praying for you.

God bless,
Stingray 🙂
 
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cestusdei:
Jodi,
Welcome. I am a convert myself. I was a Protestant minister. Stingray doesn’t know what he is talking about. You will not find us like the lds church. I love being Catholic.
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Fully agreed Cestusdei. Did you have any feelings like Jodi expresses? I know I did as a cradle Catholic gone 34 years and returning. Indeed Stingray does not know what he’s talking about and is invilation of forum rules with that post.

Conduct Rules:
4. Do not view the discussion area as a vehicle for single-mindedly promoting an agenda.
5. Non-Catholics are welcome to participate but must be respectful of the faith of the Catholics participating on the board.

Pax vobiscum, 🙂
 
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Jodi:
I have to admit to being uncertain about trusting myself so soon to another religion but one story keeps comming to mind.
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Trust is the keyword. Trust has been damaged. Pray that your trust be healed. Ask Mary to intercede. She is particularly good about trust. Well it figures. Imagine being visited by an angel wanting to court her when she was betrothed to Joseph! Yet she trusted.

One day I found a prayer on the floor where I worked. It was the Memorare. The night before I had prayed to God saying that I knew I was in over my head and could not help myself. The next morning I found the prayer. I prayed the prayer that night. By noon the next day I was free. Here is the prayer:

Memorare
Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that any one who fled to thy protection, implored thy help or sought thy intercession, was left unaided. Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto thee, O Virgin of virgins my Mother; to thee do I come, before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful; O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in thy mercy hear and answer me, Amen.

For protection:
Saint Michael Prayer
Saint Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray; and do you, O Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

Also Psalm 91 (90 in Douay Rheims Challoner):

**Qui habitat.

The just is secure under the protection of God.

90:1. The praise of a canticle for David. He that dwelleth in the aid of the most High, shall abide under the protection of the God of Jacob.

90:2. He shall say to the Lord: Thou art my protector, and my refuge: my God, in him will I trust.

90:3. For he hath delivered me from the snare of the hunters: and from the sharp word.

90:4. He will overshadow thee with his shoulders: and under his wings thou shalt trust.

90:5. His truth shall compass thee with a shield: thou shalt not be afraid of the terror of the night.

90:6. Of the arrow that flieth in the day, of the business that walketh about in the dark: of invasion, or of the noonday devil.

90:7. A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand: but it shall not come nigh thee.

90:8. But thou shalt consider with thy eyes: and shalt see the reward of the wicked.

90:9. Because thou, O Lord, art my hope: thou hast made the most High thy refuge.

90:10. There shall no evil come to thee: nor shall the scourge come near thy dwelling.
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**90:11. For he hath given his angels charge over thee; to keep thee in all thy ways.

90:12. In their hands they shall bear thee up: lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
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**90:13. Thou shalt walk upon the asp and the basilisk: and thou shalt trample under foot the lion and the dragon.

90:14. Because he hoped in me I will deliver him: I will protect him because he hath known my name.

90:15. He shall cry to me, and I will hear him: I am with him in tribulation, I will deliver him, and I will glorify him.

90:16. I will fill him with length of days; and I will shew him my salvation.**
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Jodi:
To paraphrase a man had seven demons cast out of him. He was instructed to fill the space with good works or the demons would go out and come back with friends and fill that space and his lot would be more miserable than before. I feel like I have exorsized a demon of sorts. If I don’t fill that space with the true love of Christ I shudder to think what might move in to take its place.
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Breathe. It is not for you to fill. It is for the Holy Spirit to fill. Ask and you shall receive.
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Jodi:
Now I am still very immature in my knowledge of the church but it makes only logical sense to continue as I have started. Logic, and using my mind in spiritual matters wasn’t highly encouraged in the l.d.s. ward I came from. I am encouraged that the priest here finds no questions to be wrong if asked with real desire to know the truth.
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FIDES ET RATIO by His Holiness John Paul II To the Bishops of the Catholic Church on the relationship between Faith and Reason 1998.09.14:

vatican.va/edocs/ENG0216/_INDEX.HTM

While reason is a gift, so too is trust. Without faith and the trust that faith brings, then what good is reason to you? In communion lies your answer.
 
 
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Jodi:
I know anger is not the feeling I should be feeling right now. Me and my family have found the truth and have left the mormon or lds church for our new catholic faith. But anger is what I am currently feeling. I resent every hour I wasted over my life trying to believe the unbelievable. Every dollar that went to build a church that wasn’t Gods. Every time I didn’t listen to people around me who where just trying to help me find the truth. I am angry that I was so stupid.

Is it any wonder than I am emotionaly exausted at times. 😉
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I am sorry your legitimate question got hijacked, and I would like to go back to it. Of course you are emotionally exhausted, you have just undergone an experience of courage, fortitude and endurance similar to the early martyrs and confessors of the faith, and continue to do so.
Like the prince in Sleeping Beauty who went through many trials to find and awaken his lady love, you now have a lifetime to get to know her, of making delightful discoveries about her, and even becoming aware of some of her annoying habits or quirks!.
Deflect the anger from yourself and from those well-meaning people who did their best to pass on what they accepted as truth and aim it squarely at the one person who is to blame: Satan. Reserve all your anger for him, and fight him with the only weapon that is efficacious: the sacrifice of Christ present in the Eucharist.

One thing you may really miss is the strong support for families present in your former Church. I hope you will be able to bring that mentality and charism to us and remind us, and those in your new parish, of our mission to support the domestic church.
 
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Jodi:
I went to mass today and loved it. I am starting the R.C.I.A. process and I am learning allot. I have to admit to being uncertain about trusting myself so soon to another religion but one story keeps comming to mind. To paraphrase a man had seven demons cast out of him. He was instructed to fill the space with good works or the demons would go out and come back with friends and fill that space and his lot would be more miserable than before.

I feel like I have exorsized a demon of sorts. If I don’t fill that space with the true love of Christ I shudder to think what might move in to take its place. As for the not looking around I did call one protestant minister and have him try and explain how the tree could be bad (catholism) and the branches (protestants) be healthy.

Logic dictates that if the tree is bad than the branches are lost having no roots to sustain them. But if it is a good tree, bad brances may need to be removed to preserve the life of the tree. So if the great apostacy is true than all are lost and no truth exists. But if is untrue than only one church can hold the truth (catholics) and they (protestants) have cut themselves off from the roots of Jesus.

Now I am still very immature in my knowledge of the church but it makes only logical sense to continue as I have started. Logic, and using my mind in spiritual matters wasn’t highly encouraged in the l.d.s. ward I came from. I am encouraged that the priest here finds no questions to be wrong if asked with real desire to know the truth.

I have a real desire to come to know my God. I am glad that I have the opportunity now to see him more clearly.
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Jodi,
I am currently in RCIA as well, I will be confirmed this Spring when the Bishop comes to visit our Parish. I just wanted to say Welcome Home, my dear friend.
Your words here, have brought tears to my eyes because they are so beautiful. May God bless you and your family!

Peace be with you,
Jamie
 
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