Female Catholic Priest

[mshealy]

On the CNN website they have a story about a “female Catholic priest” named Jane Via, who is leading a Catholic congregation in a Methodist Church in San Diego. (I know, I know, go figure–but I promise that’s what the report said. Go to CNN.com it’s there.)

Why bring this up? Well, it’s intereting. However, the report references that she was “ordained” by a “Roman Catholic” group in Switzerland who want women priests. A spokesman for the Church, who did a good job I think, indictated that this was an ordination from outside the Church. Thus, maybe this group only calls themselves “catholic.” Does anyone know who these people are? I always wonder why, if you disagree with the Church, or any organization that you belong to, this much, why do you stay?

 

[Mannyfit75]

On the CNN website they have a story about a “female Catholic priest” named Jane Via, who is leading a Catholic congregation in a Methodist Church in San Diego. (I know, I know, go figure–but I promise that’s what the report said. Go to CNN.com it’s there.)

Why bring this up? Well, it’s intereting. However, the report references that she was “ordained” by a “Roman Catholic” group in Switzerland who want women priests. A spokesman for the Church, who did a good job I think, indictated that this was an ordination from outside the Church. Thus, maybe this group only calls themselves “catholic.” Does anyone know who these people are? I always wonder why, if you disagree with the Church, or any organization that you belong to, this much, why do you stay?

Her ordaination is invalid in the Eyes of the Holy See in Rome. If you look at their communion it isn’t leaven bread like the one we have in the Church

 

[Caesar]

Her ordaination is invalid in the Eyes of the Holy See in Rome. If you look at their communion it isn’t leaven bread like the one we have in the Church

Yes, the very fact she is a woman makes the ordination invalid. Even if the Pope said female ordinations were ok, they wouldnt take place. The Church has no power to change that.

It’s like gay marriage- there is no such thing. Marriage needs one man and one woman. Not two men. Not two women. Not one man and five women.

Or the Eucharist. The species must be Bread and Wine and they must be consecrated by a priest. No milk and cookies.

 

[Denise_Shae]

On the CNN website they have a story about a “female Catholic priest” named Jane Via, who is leading a Catholic congregation in a Methodist Church in San Diego. (I know, I know, go figure–but I promise that’s what the report said. Go to CNN.com it’s there.)

Why bring this up? Well, it’s intereting. However, the report references that she was “ordained” by a “Roman Catholic” group in Switzerland who want women priests. A spokesman for the Church, who did a good job I think, indictated that this was an ordination from outside the Church. Thus, maybe this group only calls themselves “catholic.” Does anyone know who these people are? I always wonder why, if you disagree with the Church, or any organization that you belong to, this much, why do you stay?

While I can’t speak for everyone, I tend to think that a lot of them stay, because they believe that if they make enough noise; lay on enough pressure, the Magisterium will evenutally bow down to their demands.

I, for one, pray to God, they never ordain women priests.
They’ll want to change everything. It’s bad enough that they forced inclusive language into the Bible, Lectionary and the Mass.

God only knows what they’d try to change if ever they were allowed to be ordained.
And I would NEVER go to one for Confession. To quote St. Paul: “God forbid!” :tsktsk:

God Bless.

 

[Vigis]

Well I do believe that the woman being ordained was invalid, but can the Catholic Church change their position on that? Saint Paul said that he did not recommend having women priests, but he did not forbide it. Is it in Church dogma that their can not be women priests? Just asking out of curiosity. God speed.

 

[thistle]

Well I do believe that the woman being ordained was invalid, but can the Catholic Church change their position on that? Saint Paul said that he did not recommend having women priests, but he did not forbide it. Is it in Church dogma that their can not be women priests? Just asking out of curiosity. God speed.

Women can NEVER be priests because the Church has no authority to ordain women.

CCC 1577 “Only a baptized man (vir) validly receives sacred ordination.” The Lord Jesus chose men (viri) to form the college of the twelve apostles, and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry. The college of bishops, with whom the priests are united in the priesthood, makes the college of the twelve an ever-present and ever-active reality until Christ’s return. The Church recognizes herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord himself. For this reason the ordination of women is not possible.

 

[alexaustralia]

Very quickly…John Paul2 as his role as Pope closed the matter officially. No matter how much debate happens is no longer an open issue.

 

[Denise_Shae]

Very quickly…John Paul2 as his role as Pope closed the matter officially. No matter how much debate happens is no longer an open issue.

 

[Montalban]

On the CNN website they have a story about a “female Catholic priest” named Jane Via, who is leading a Catholic congregation in a Methodist Church in San Diego. (I know, I know, go figure–but I promise that’s what the report said. Go to CNN.com it’s there.)

Why bring this up? Well, it’s intereting. However, the report references that she was “ordained” by a “Roman Catholic” group in Switzerland who want women priests. A spokesman for the Church, who did a good job I think, indictated that this was an ordination from outside the Church. Thus, maybe this group only calls themselves “catholic.” Does anyone know who these people are? I always wonder why, if you disagree with the Church, or any organization that you belong to, this much, why do you stay?

Many groups claim to be Catholic. Some years ago on www.4forums.com I had a debate with someone who tried to claim that the Catholic Church had always approved of homosexuals.

One fella (Duo_Maxwell) tried to suggest that the Catholic church has always supported homosexuals. (see thread "Why are Gay Rights not Civil Rights? post #41 and others).

He based this on a site that wasn’t ‘the’ Catholic Church, but a liberal catholic church not in communion with Rome which itself had an article that was faulty in that it dealt with an icon of two saints, who weren’t gay.

He cited this as ‘the’ Catholic Church

forministry.com/USPALCCINSCCSC/GayMarriage.dsp

This church is ‘a’ Catholic Church, not ‘the’ Catholic Church

 

[LindaS]

Some years ago on www.4forums.com I had a debate with someone who tried to claim that the Catholic Church had always approved of homosexuals.

The Catholic Church has never disapproved of homosexual persons, only the homosexual behaviors. It is not the sinner, but the sin that is forbidden. Sex outside of marriage is always wrong. As to the OP’s question, John Paul II infallibly declared that the Church has no authority to ordain women, no matter how much noise people make. To (almost) quote St. Augustine, Rome has spoken, that settles it.

Peace,
Linda

 

[Montalban]

Montalban:

Some years ago on www.4forums.com

I had a debate with someone who tried to claim that the Catholic Church had always approved of homosexuals.

The Catholic Church has never disapproved of homosexual persons, only the homosexual behaviors. It is not the sinner, but the sin that is forbidden. Sex outside of marriage is always wrong. As to the OP’s question, John Paul II infallibly declared that the Church has no authority to ordain women, no matter how much noise people make. To (almost) quote St. Augustine, Rome has spoken, that settles it.

Peace,
Linda

I badly phrased my post.

 

[Eireann]

On the CNN website they have a story about a “female Catholic priest” named Jane Via, who is leading a Catholic congregation in a Methodist Church in San Diego. (I know, I know, go figure–but I promise that’s what the report said. Go to CNN.com it’s there.)

Why bring this up? Well, it’s intereting. However, the report references that she was “ordained” by a “Roman Catholic” group in Switzerland who want women priests. A spokesman for the Church, who did a good job I think, indictated that this was an ordination from outside the Church. Thus, maybe this group only calls themselves “catholic.” Does anyone know who these people are? I always wonder why, if you disagree with the Church, or any organization that you belong to, this much, why do you stay?

We have a few over here who have excommunicated themselves by thinking they know better than the Church.

Here

Read his creed.:ehh:

 

[Robo40]

We have a few over here who have excommunicated themselves by thinking they know better than the Church.

Here

Read his creed.:ehh:

The real issue I have is that these people are leading other misguided people away from the truth. It’s one thing to excommunicate yourself, it is another much more severe crime to bring so many others with you. And I wonder why this is news again. August in the LA times is when the story first came out. Why keep showing the same clips and story…

 

[Dale_M]

I always wonder why, if you disagree with the Church, or any organization that you belong to, this much, why do you stay?

That’s a good question. I have heard some Catholics explain that belonging to the Church is a basic part of their identity: they were born, raised and (sometimes) educated Catholic. Leaving the Church would be like losing an arm or leg to them.

I have read that some stay because they believe in the Real Presence and don’t believe it available outside the Church. But wouldn’t female priests be more like Protestant clergy: offering symbolic communion but not the real deal?

I guess I don’t understand why some people want the Church to change its teachings. Perhaps they don’t believe that the principles of the Church are objective, standing for all time, not subjective beliefs which periodically need to be modernized.

 

[Robo40]

That’s a good question. I have heard some Catholics explain that belonging to the Church is a basic part of their identity: they were born, raised and (sometimes) educated Catholic. Leaving the Church would be like losing an arm or leg to them.

I have read that some stay because they believe in the Real Presence and don’t believe it available outside the Church. But wouldn’t female priests be more like Protestant clergy: offering symbolic communion but not the real deal?

I guess I don’t understand why some people want the Church to change its teachings. Perhaps they don’t believe that the principles of the Church are objective, standing for all time, not subjective beliefs which periodically need to be modernized.

I to always wondered why people want to see the teachings change. I see it so much these days. It seems that when people choose different lifestyles or I notice with many older people that when there kids do things “alternativly” They start to question this or that teaching. In my own life I have done this. When you want to do something wrong you want society to conform so you dont feel so bad…

 

[Eireann]

The real issue I have is that these people are leading other misguided people away from the truth. It’s one thing to excommunicate yourself, it is another much more severe crime to bring so many others with you. And I wonder why this is news again. August in the LA times is when the story first came out. Why keep showing the same clips and story…

Maybe they’ve run out of ideas of how to bash the Catholic Church, they strike their heads against the Rock.

 

[Denise_Shae]

Why keep showing the same clips and story…

Because they don’t want to let it go. If they do that, people just might forget about it and get back to their own lives w/their own currant problems.
I think they keep showing it to keep people riled up.

It kind of reminds me of the priests scandal; the newspapers keep showing the same accused priests over and over again. I mean; it’s getting pretty old.
How often does a new name or image appear in their anti-Catholic articles?

Sotto Voci**: I am, in no way, defending the guilty priests, nor am I unsympathetic to their victims.**

I am merely pointing out the fact that the media likes to keep people stirred up; especially when it has anything to do with the Catholic Church.

God Bless!

 

[demerzel85]

On the CNN website they have a story about a “female Catholic priest” named Jane Via, who is leading a Catholic congregation in a Methodist Church in San Diego. (I know, I know, go figure–but I promise that’s what the report said. Go to CNN.com it’s there.)

Why bring this up? Well, it’s intereting. However, the report references that she was “ordained” by a “Roman Catholic” group in Switzerland who want women priests. A spokesman for the Church, who did a good job I think, indictated that this was an ordination from outside the Church. Thus, maybe this group only calls themselves “catholic.” Does anyone know who these people are? I always wonder why, if you disagree with the Church, or any organization that you belong to, this much, why do you stay?

What woman priest? She’s a Priestess. Seems like the mass media just has a nack for mixing the gender of occupations. But wait…there is no such thing as a Priestess for the Catholic Church

Hmm…even if there is a claim, there is no way she can offer Mass, since the consecration part ‘my body’ and ‘my blood’ does not apply since Christ himself is male.

Oh and what is she to be addressed by her misguided congregation? Reverend Mother? Reverend Mother is for Mother Superiors of Nuns. Oops. I guess this is just what you get with the blind leading the blind.

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

I can paint myself green and have CNN call me a Martian if I call the right people there. It doesn’t make me a Martian.

 

[M-Dent]

I to always wondered why people want to see the teachings change. I see it so much these days.

I’ve spoken with quite a few people who are under the false impression they are “open-minded and progressive.” Especially when they are convinced they want to change things, that are not meant to be changed.

It’s sad, many times such people can’t see the diametric contradiction to their own claims. They articulate what it is to be “closed-minded”, or “selfish” yet point the finger outwards.