Female Doctors of the Church: What should they be called?

[CDNowak]

Wrong. Rejecting what the Church allows is the very definition of cafeteria catholicism.

Hmm interesting position. I guess that mean the bishop (who only gives communion on the tongue to kneeling communicants) of a diocese that doesn’t allow altar girls is a cafeteria Catholic, by your argument of course. Rome doesn’t allow altar girls. **QED **via reductio ad absurdum.

Now rejecting the OF, that is another matter.

 

[Shin]

What is the Latin for ‘Doctor’ in the masculine and in the feminine?

 

[MarkThompson]

What is the Latin for ‘Doctor’ in the masculine and in the feminine?

Do you mean in the sense of “one who teaches,” or a guy who practices medicine? The former would be doctor, doctoris, m., or doctrix, doctricis, f. The latter would be medicus, -i, m., or medica, -ae, f.

“Doctrix,” however, doesn’t seem to exist in English, although very rarely one can find “doctress” and “doctrice.”

 

[Shin]

Ah yes, like Mediatrix, etc. I was wondering whether the trix would be on the end.

 

[texasnan]

In another thread it was brought up that women should not be named Doctors of the Church. Perhaps a poll is in order!

So thus; should women be allowed to be considered Doctors of the Church?

Why on earth not? Color me puzzled that the question even came up.

 

[scylla]

Maybe I should clarify… I reject the belief that allowing altar girls is a good thing or should be encouraged in any way. This is not Cafeteria Catholicism as the Pope can certainly make poor decisions and allow people to sway his decisions. The Pope can decide to prohibit the use of clerical dress and all Priests wear shorts, yet this would be a poor decision also.

Pope John Paul made many holy decisions and made some choices that many can disagree with, he seemed to appease many dissenters to hold some unity as the Church was on the verge of schism and still is in some parts.

Female Doctors of the Church can be disagreed with as well, as an opinion, if they are a good decision to be recognized as Female Doctors. Yet, I don’t think this is not really an issue, unless you are really nit-picking, correct me if I am wrong. What is the argument against?

God Bless
Scylla

 

[PacoG]

What is the Latin for ‘Doctor’ in the masculine and in the feminine?

Weirdly enough, I have seen the J.S. Paluch missalettes refer to Doctors of the Church as “physician.” (That was several years back. I don’t know if they have changed it.)

Is that a correct translation or a mis-translation?

 

[MarkThompson]

Weirdly enough, I have seen the J.S. Paluch missalettes refer to Doctors of the Church as “physician.” (That was several years back. I don’t know if they have changed it.)

Is that a correct translation or a mis-translation?

A mistranslation. The Latin word doctor doesn’t mean “physician.”

 

[catharina]

Some women saints ARE Doctors of the Church.

St. Catherine of Siena.
St. Teresa of Avila.
St. Térèse of Lisieux.

What should THEY be called?

Totally agree with you, yes, we HAVE doctors of the Church who are women.

Who would dare to reject this?
Under what pretense???

 

[Musicadmirer]

It is wonderful that God has chosen both genders of his children to be instruments of his Truth. I pray for more Doctors of the Church to come, male and female

 

[manualman]

:hypno:

Does anybody REALLY think St. Catherine of Sienna shouldn’t be a Doctor of the Church? Seriously?

 

[Holly3278]

Yes, I believe that women should be allowed to be Doctors of the Church. We already have some female Doctors of the Church and I see nothing wrong with that.

 

[white_sheep]

Wrong. Rejecting what the Church allows is the very definition of cafeteria catholicism.

I make it my personal philosophy not to test all the rules, live by the exception, and push everything as far as absolutely possible. We only have female altar boys by indult, it is not the norm in the Church.

Rejecting what the Church TEACHES is the very definition of Cafeteria Catholicism.

 

[VetA]

doctorinas

 

[white_sheep]

I make it my personal philosophy not to test all the rules, live by the exception, and push everything as far as absolutely possible. We only have female altar boys by indult, it is not the norm in the Church.

Rejecting what the Church TEACHES is the very definition of Cafeteria Catholicism.

Further, the Church TEACHES that altar boys should be male but has TOLERATED our nonsense because they know how crazy we are, and I think there was a real fear of schism or of many American bishops breaking away back when that indult was granted.

 

[Melchior_1]

Further, the Church TEACHES that altar boys should be male but has TOLERATED our nonsense because they know how crazy we are, and I think there was a real fear of schism or of many American bishops breaking away back when that indult was granted.

That’s great, but how about you dive further into what the OP is about, eh? There’s already 4780607 threads about Alter Servers. This is about people who apparently think that women shouldn’t be called/named Doctors of the Church (although it is refreshing to see the majority of people think they should be…and recognize they already have been).

 

[white_sheep]

That’s great, but how about you dive further into what the OP is about, eh? There’s already 4780607 threads about Alter Servers. This is about people who apparently think that women shouldn’t be called/named Doctors of the Church (although it is refreshing to see the majority of people think they should be…and recognize they already have been).

Actually that was about Cafeteria Catholicism.

I still hold the opinion I posted in the other thread. No one has made a case to the contrary, and half the posts have stated the obvious fact that women have been named doctors of the Church.

As we have discovered that the word doctor means teacher, can someone please explain to me how naming a woman doctor of the Church jibes with Paul’s proscription of having a woman placed in a teaching role found in 1 Tim 2:12?

 

[LilyM]

:hypno:

Does anybody REALLY think St. Catherine of Sienna shouldn’t be a Doctor of the Church? Seriously?

Or St Teresa of Avila? Just started on her autobiography - powerful stuff indeed.

I vote for what my mother (a female GP) would be called in her native language of Croatian - ‘doctoritsa’

 

[MarkThompson]

As we have discovered that the word doctor means teacher, can someone please explain to me how naming a woman doctor of the Church jibes with Paul’s proscription of having a woman placed in a teaching role found in 1 Tim 2:12?

Uh, because what St. Paul thought was appropriate for the Church in Ephesus in like 40 AD has no bearing on whether a woman can be a teacher today?

Otherwise, I trust you’ll be insisting on the orans posture (1 Tim. 2:8) for all the guys next Sunday at Mass. Oh, and I hope your girlfriend never wears braids in her hair (1 Tim. 2:9) and that your bishop’s children are all well-behaved (1 Tim. 3:4).

 

[texasnan]

Uh, because what St. Paul thought was appropriate for the Church in Ephesus in like 40 AD has no bearing on whether a woman can be a teacher today?

Otherwise, I trust you’ll be insisting on the orans posture (1 Tim. 2:8) for all the guys next Sunday at Mass. Oh, and I hope your girlfriend never wears braids in her hair (1 Tim. 2:9) and that your bishop’s children are all well-behaved (1 Tim. 3:4).