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Yes it did!Women are not the only ones to blame. Men are to blame too, but the feminist movement made it easier for men to be pigs.
Yes it did!Women are not the only ones to blame. Men are to blame too, but the feminist movement made it easier for men to be pigs.
Maybe he’d be happier the other way, but you never know.My husband is a much more involved, hands on dad because of this. If I didn’t work, he’d probably be very happy to let me assume all of these traditional roles
I think abortion is a product of the feminist movement though. There were some very liberal feminists even in the movement in the 20’s.I agree there is a properly ordered feminism.
I don’t think “feminism” should automatically be connected to abortion - as the link I provided shows, the earliest feminists were very pro-life and responsible for making abortion illegal in the first place (how’s that for ironic?)
I DON’T think it is the job of women to keep men in line - to “civilize” them.
I have seen this argued elsewhere, and I reject it.
I agree, men are completely to blame for their own actions. They can beat any temptation that is presented. No arguement from me. If I did not believe this, I don’t know if I would be Christian.We are all responsible for our own decisions - we should not lay this responsiblity on others.
Men are quite capable of being excellent christians and excellent husbands/fathers without having to be civilized by a woman.
He is capable of seeking this on his own initiative.
Maybe they are. I try not to be a pig type of person. The false feminists are becoming pigs like most men. So, I wouldn’t say I am insulting myself. It may be an insult to the average man.So when men get angry at feminists for trying to be just like men…aren’t they insulting themselves?
If they are angry the feminists are not placing their spouse and children first - just like men- what does that say about the men?
It furthers their agenda. If euthenasia is passed, then you might as well forget about abortion because the window for it being overturned is passed. They will continue until it is full euthanasia. They don’t care about anyone but their agenda. There not worried about women.Yes it did!But what chaps my hide is that the radical feminists make it mandantory that it stays that way!
I did not hear a peep out of them when Terri Schiavo was being executed in Florida:tsktsk: All the evil men talks and women aren’t the property of men and planned parenthood sends thankyou notes to those who voted against Terri:banghead: :banghead: Boy they really care about women,huh
BAH!
As the mother of sons and daughters - I fully agreeI think that men have a responsibility to be true men, instead of pigs. Christ is the ideal for a man. He shows all the virtues to us. What a real man is, is in reference to Him.
And what’s ironic - is these “rights” women think they want will always come back to bite them.It furthers their agenda. If euthenasia is passed, then you might as well forget about abortion because the window for it being overturned is passed. They will continue until it is full euthanasia. They don’t care about anyone but their agenda. There not worried about women
I agree, true feminism demands more from men, but radical feminism does the exact opposite. It demands nothing of men and it makes men worse. True feminism would make men more of men I would say.If they are angry the feminists are not placing their spouse and children first - just like men- what does that say about the men?/QUOTE]
Good point, lorarose. I think feminism in some ways demands more out of men. Because I work (half time) out of the home, my husband has to assume some responsibilities for our home and children that his father and my dad never did. On my worknights dh picks the kids up from school, makes dinner, does the homework. This carries over into the nights when we’re both home – we do all of these things together. My husband is a much more involved, hands on dad because of this. If I didn’t work, he’d probably be very happy to let me assume all of these traditional roles.
No, abortion is a distortion of the feminist movement. Susan B. Anthony and the other original feminists who were pushing for women’s right to vote were adamantly against abortion. They saw it as the ultimate abuse to a women’s body. Their view, from what I recall, was very consistent with Humanae Vitae. Even as late as the 60’s many feminists were still against abortion, even NOW was, I believe. The pro abortion movement hijacked the feminist movement, imo.I think abortion is a product of the feminist movement though. There were some very liberal feminists even in the movement in the 20’s.
You know, I noticed this too.And somewhere along the way it was decided that men were so stupid. In so many TV shows the husband is this total bumbling idiot and his wise, long suffering wife who puts up with him has to help him out of the mess he gets into. It’s the same with commericals - the husband is made to look so stupid & the wise wife comes to make the decision - solve the problem. In the end the wise wife sets him straight & he goes back to watching football. I don’t know any men like this… why are they always portrayed this way?
Wasn’t Jesus Christ the “ideal feminist”?My personal opinion now, is that feminism is going to eventually will be considered or lead to a heresy that will go down in Church history like Aryanism.
In all forms, it is hurting the Church.
Well, my 22 year old niece says “All men are scum.” But she makes exceptions for immediate family and her boyfriend. I often think that men live up to (or down to) what women expect of them. But it is true that men are and must be responsible for their own conduct.But that’s the point dear.
Men pass the responsibility off onto the woman.
Adam did it in the garden, and guys are still doing it.
It’s like saying…men have been dirty rotten scoundrels for eons - but now that the women want to be dirty rotten scoundrels, men are going to point the finger at the women for the downfall of civilization…
HUH???![]()