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AngryAtheist8
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Excellent job Betterave.
Your staying true to your insult based style. Showing commendable dedication to your (Troll)craft.
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Your staying true to your insult based style. Showing commendable dedication to your (Troll)craft.
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LogisticsBranch
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I’m still waiting for In Spiration to read and comment on the above message that I presented on the previous page.In Spiration, you are once again quote-mining what I have written in your message 223. I would hope kind readers will take the time to read all that I have written on this topic. Thank you.
In Spiration, you earlier brought up an article written by David Stove. As I previously mentioned, I don’t agree with David Stove, Betterave, or you. Apparently, David Stove is a favorite of the Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture. I don’t support the Discovery Institute. I am not a proponent of Intelligent Design Movement. Are you?
In Spiration on 98 page (message7) you said, “What I can say is that I presently lean toward the belief that men are generally superior re: physical and intellectual abilities (viz. philosophical, scientific, mathematical, artistic, etc.). Finally, for the record: women are naturally more empathetic and compassionate than men.”
You never replied to my comment. MY comment to you once again to you is that I’m a woman. I think men can be just as empathetic and compassionate as women can be. As far as the rest of your statement, it’s absolutely without a doubt in my mind and experience untrue. Furthermore, it’s biased and bigotry too. Your belief system in this case is contrary to reality. I will also tell you this much, I wouldn’t and don’t hang around in real life outside of the Internet with men or women who think as you do. That is the TRUTH!
I’d like to return to the issue about Feminism by bringing to light the following which I endorse. :“No consideration of the problems associated with development could fail to highlight the direct link between poverty and unemployment. In many cases, poverty results from a violation of the dignity of human work, either because work opportunities are limited (through unemployment or underemployment), or because a low value is put on work and the rights that flow from it, especially the right to a just wage and to the personal security of the worker and his or her family. For this reason, on 1 May 2000 on the occasion of the Jubilee of Workers, my venerable predecessor Pope John Paul II issued an appeal for a global coalition in favour of decent work, supporting the strategy of the International Labour Organization. In this way, he gave a strong moral impetus to this objective, seeing it as an aspiration of families in every country of the world. What is meant by the word decent in regard to work? It means work that expresses the essential dignity of every man and woman in the context of their particular society: work that is freely chosen, effectively associating workers, both men and women, with the development of their community; work that enables the worker to be respected and free from any form of discrimination; work that makes it possible for families to meet their needs and provide schooling for their children, without the children themselves being forced into labour; work that permits the workers to organize themselves freely, and to make their voices heard; work that leaves enough room for rediscovering one’s roots at a personal, familial and spiritual level; work that guarantees those who have retired a decent standard of living. (ENCYCLICAL LETTER CARITAS IN VERITATE OF THE SUPREME PONTIFF BENEDICT XVI TO THE BISHOPS PRIESTS AND DEACONS MEN AND WOMEN RELIGIOUS THE LAY FAITHFUL AND ALL PEOPLE OF GOOD WILL ON INTEGRAL HUMAN DEVELOPMENT IN CHARITY AND TRUTH on June 29, 2009 at Saint Peter’s in Rome)
So looking above what the Pope has written then it would be fair for me to say that “Feminism refers to movements aimed at defining, establishing and defending equal political, economic, and social rights and equal opportunities for women. Its concepts overlap with those of women’s rights.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism
Since I am involved with science, I support: “Science is a worldwide endeavor and ought to be open to anyone — regardless of ethnicity, gender, religious commitment, or any other personal characteristic.”
undsci.berkeley.edu/article/science_worldwide
In Spiration, as far as you mentioning demons in your message 223, it was your comment
(#3) on this topic “What is “God’s Will”?” wherein you mention demons: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=7468221#post7468221 Of course, I don’t believe in demonic possession.
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AngryAtheist8
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I have stated my arguments in this thread (and even provided evidence to back them up).
But Betterave has never done that, instead he has simply insulted those he disagrees with. So I’m having some fun with him.
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larkin31
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cough coughThanks bhall0689.You may like to read what In Spiration has written on another topic.
I left that topic and decided to come over here.
some of the men were supportive!
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AngryAtheist8
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That thread got rather vile.
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LogisticsBranch
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Yes, you were very supportive dear larkin31.LogisticsBranch;7564756:
cough coughThanks bhall0689.
some of the men were supportive!
Sweet and kind person that you are. When I said, ‘it was males bashing women as far as I could see it’, it wasn’t the all inclusive. Bless you. Referencing to page 17 (#249) with mention of another topic, “Why Feminsim is Wrong” wherein I gave this link forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=526647&page=5Ah, page 16. Dear AngryAtheist8, I sure would like to have In Spiration answer me.
In Spiration, you are once again quote-mining what I have written in your message 223. I would hope kind readers will take the time to read all that I have written on this topic. Thank you.
In Spiration, you earlier brought up an article written by David Stove. As I previously mentioned, I don’t agree with David Stove, Betterave, or you. Apparently, David Stove is a favorite of the Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture. I don’t support the Discovery Institute. I am not a proponent of Intelligent Design Movement. Are you?
In Spiration on 98 page (message7) you said, “What I can say is that I presently lean toward the belief that men are generally superior re: physical and intellectual abilities (viz. philosophical, scientific, mathematical, artistic, etc.). Finally, for the record: women are naturally more empathetic and compassionate than men.”
You never replied to my comment. MY comment to you once again to you is that I’m a woman. I think men can be just as empathetic and compassionate as women can be. As far as the rest of your statement, it’s absolutely without a doubt in my mind and experience untrue. Furthermore, it’s biased and bigotry too. Your belief system in this case is contrary to reality. I will also tell you this much, I wouldn’t and don’t hang around in real life outside of the Internet with men or women who think as you do. That is the TRUTH!
I’d like to return to the issue about Feminism by bringing to light the following which I endorse. :“No consideration of the problems associated with development could fail to highlight the direct link between poverty and unemployment. In many cases, poverty results from a violation of the dignity of human work, either because work opportunities are limited (through unemployment or underemployment), or because a low value is put on work and the rights that flow from it, especially the right to a just wage and to the personal security of the worker and his or her family. For this reason, on 1 May 2000 on the occasion of the Jubilee of Workers, my venerable predecessor Pope John Paul II issued an appeal for a global coalition in favour of decent work, supporting the strategy of the International Labour Organization. In this way, he gave a strong moral impetus to this objective, seeing it as an aspiration of families in every country of the world. What is meant by the word decent in regard to work? It means work that expresses the essential dignity of every man and woman in the context of their particular society: work that is freely chosen, effectively associating workers, both men and women, with the development of their community; work that enables the worker to be respected and free from any form of discrimination; work that makes it possible for families to meet their needs and provide schooling for their children, without the children themselves being forced into labour; work that permits the workers to organize themselves freely, and to make their voices heard; work that leaves enough room for rediscovering one’s roots at a personal, familial and spiritual level; work that guarantees those who have retired a decent standard of living. (ENCYCLICAL LETTER CARITAS IN VERITATE OF THE SUPREME PONTIFF BENEDICT XVI TO THE BISHOPS PRIESTS AND DEACONS MEN AND WOMEN RELIGIOUS THE LAY FAITHFUL AND ALL PEOPLE OF GOOD WILL ON INTEGRAL HUMAN DEVELOPMENT IN CHARITY AND TRUTH on June 29, 2009 at Saint Peter’s in Rome)
So looking above what the Pope has written then it would be fair for me to say that “Feminism refers to movements aimed at defining, establishing and defending equal political, economic, and social rights and equal opportunities for women. Its concepts overlap with those of women’s rights.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism
Since I am involved with science, I support: “Science is a worldwide endeavor and ought to be open to anyone — regardless of ethnicity, gender, religious commitment, or any other personal characteristic.”
undsci.berkeley.edu/article/science_worldwide
In Spiration, as far as you mentioning demons in your message 223, it was your comment
(#3) on this topic “What is “God’s Will”?” wherein you mention demons: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=7468221#post7468221 Of course, I don’t believe in demonic possession.
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In_Spiration
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The terms “male brain” and “female brain” refer to systemizing brains and empathizing brains, respectively. It’s a shorthand way of describing neurotypes. Men are more prone to the first; women to the second. Some males will have “female brains”; some females will have “male brains”. I’m saying the characteristically male neurotype (systemizing) is ultimately better, i.e., it’s more truth-conducive by way of being more principled. In a fallen world, we often must rely on abstract, unbiased (by emotion, instinct, etc.) principles to avoid self-deception, “magical thinking”, wishful thinking, solipsistic thinking, etc.
The research:
Simon Baron-Cohen’s [professor of Developmental Psychopathology in the Departments of Psychiatry and Experimental Psychology at the University of Cambridge; yes, Borat’s cousin] recent book The Essential Difference: Men, Women and the Extreme Male Brain proposes that “The female brain is predominantly hard-wired for empathy. The male brain is predominantly hard-wired for understanding and building systems.”
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In_Spiration
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LogisticsBranch,
Please calm down. I have quite a bit of more interesting work “on my plate” these days, so you shouldn’t feel slighted when you don’t get your response as swiftly as you want. If you’ll notice, I usually cover a lot more of your “points” than you do mine, with more typing. That takes a lot longer than the casual dismissals and blank-assertion-repetition I see from some others (whom I’ll leave nameless). It also takes longer when you’ve got to reply to a guy who breaks up all his commentary into small, scattered chunks instead of condensing them all into one multi-quoted post (ahem AA8 – is there a prize for a high posts per day count or something?).
I’m not sure just what one comment you’re so impatiently demanding a response to, but it appears you mean this one:
Meanwhile, among countless others like it, there’s this:
When unfair-playing employees were seen experiencing pain, the male volunteers - but not the females - showed significantly less empathetic brain activity than when they saw fair-players perceiving pain. Thus, females showed the brain responses of empathy regardless of their moral judgment of the employees’ social behavior, whereas the men’s brain responses were conditional upon how fairly the employee had played. Source study]
And also this new article, entitled “Male sex hormone testosterone ‘interferes with empathy’”.
Please calm down. I have quite a bit of more interesting work “on my plate” these days, so you shouldn’t feel slighted when you don’t get your response as swiftly as you want. If you’ll notice, I usually cover a lot more of your “points” than you do mine, with more typing. That takes a lot longer than the casual dismissals and blank-assertion-repetition I see from some others (whom I’ll leave nameless). It also takes longer when you’ve got to reply to a guy who breaks up all his commentary into small, scattered chunks instead of condensing them all into one multi-quoted post (ahem AA8 – is there a prize for a high posts per day count or something?).
I’m not sure just what one comment you’re so impatiently demanding a response to, but it appears you mean this one:
To which I did respond – even though it never merited any response, since you didn’t say anything meaningful.
All you did was state your opinions. You basically start: “You say x, but I say not-x. And I happen to be a woman. So there!” Obviously your being a woman doesn’t give your experience any advantage for making a comparison of male and female empathy. That doesn’t support your claim. Neither does anecdotal evidence (in the next “point”). Nor does an empty claim (i.e., “intuitive feeling”, more likely) professing certainty (in the next, etc…). Nor does a self-righteous assessment of my character. Nor does a redundant assertion of my view’s falsity. Nor do your personal social choices. Nor does another redundancy, this time asserting your own view.
Meanwhile, among countless others like it, there’s this:
When unfair-playing employees were seen experiencing pain, the male volunteers - but not the females - showed significantly less empathetic brain activity than when they saw fair-players perceiving pain. Thus, females showed the brain responses of empathy regardless of their moral judgment of the employees’ social behavior, whereas the men’s brain responses were conditional upon how fairly the employee had played. Source study]
And also this new article, entitled “Male sex hormone testosterone ‘interferes with empathy’”.
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In_Spiration
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Haha, score the Gender Genie is right on one count at least. I just submitted one of my posts and got:
Words: 468
(NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)
Female Score: 152
Male Score: 723
The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: male!
This is not intended to verify the GG. Ladies, if you share your scores and they “defy” the sexist algorithm, please refrain from supposing that this serves to discount the overall meaning of such programs.
Words: 468
(NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)
Female Score: 152
Male Score: 723
The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: male!
This is not intended to verify the GG. Ladies, if you share your scores and they “defy” the sexist algorithm, please refrain from supposing that this serves to discount the overall meaning of such programs.
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Michael_Francis
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Closed pending mod review.
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