Fetal Experimentation:Re to The Horrible Truth About Euthenasia

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To all here. Please do not fail to forget the harvesting of aborted babies organs and body parts. It has been proven many of these babies are actually kept alive, transported in freezer trucks, and sent to science labs where there little hearts, brains etc can be experimented on, until they die. There is first hand reports from “nurses” who did these things in the labs.
God have mercy on our babies.


Can you provide a link to some of these “first hand reports?”

I am now providing the requested first hand reports. These reports are taken from the book “The Facts of Life” by Brian Clowes, Ph.D".
  1. An anesthetist at Pittsburgh’s Magee Women’s Hospital described how third-trimester babies were deliberatly aborted alived and then packed in ice for shipment to laboratories. She said that "it was repulsive to watch live fetuses being packed in ice while still moving and trying to breathe,then being rushed to a laboratory.~Nick Thimmesch.“Bizarre Cases of Abortions Gone Awry.” St. Louis Globe-Democrat,June 19-20,1982,page 5
  2. Viable third-trimester preborn babies who are aborted are, of course, the most valuable for research because they are the most highly developed. In one experiement, several viable third-trimester preborn babies were delivered alive by hystterotomy abortion. researchers then punctured their heads and drained blood from them in order to “gain information about intrauterine malnutrition.”~Maurice Mahoney, MD. "The Nature and Extent of Research Involving Living Human Fetuses."Appendix to Research on the Fetus,Department of Health, Education and Welfare National Commission for the Protection of Human Subjects of Biomedical and Behavioral Research.Washington D.C…:U.S. Government Printing Office.1976),pages 1-23 to 1-25.
  3. The American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology published the details of an experiment involving cutting the beating hearts out of aborted babies and placing them in a nutrient solution where their contraction rates could be examined:“The hearts were disected from the fetuses and were mounted in a thermostatically controlled bath…the hearts survived for many hours without any significant change in their spontaneous contraction rate…Electrograms were displayed on a polygraph and served as a basus for determintation of the spontaneous heart rate.”~Bela A. Resch,*et al."*Comparison of Apoontaneous Contraction Rates of *In Situ *and Isolated Fetal Hearts in Early Pregnancy." American Journal of Obestetrics and Gynecology, January 1,1974 pages 73-74.
OK PEOPLE!! It’s my birthday today and I am having a cookout! I will finish this another time.
 
Thank you very much for posting this! I hope all who read it pass on this information and contine to FIGHT against abortion.
 
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Karin:
I thought third - trimester abortions where illegal?
Third trimester abortions are not illegal. Every law restricting abortion, even including third trimester, must (per the US Supreme Court) have an exception for the life and health of the mother. Further, the Court has said that “health” must be interpreted broadly, to include not only medical, but psychological, emotional, familial, and other factors. In essence, all that is needed is an abortionist who will state that the abortion is needed to preserve the woman’s mental or emotional health.

The U.S. Congress recently passed legislation outlawing partial birth abortion, but several appelate courts have ruled it unconstitutional because it does not contain a “health” exception. Consequently, it has never been enforced.
 
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JimG:
Third trimester abortions are not illegal. Every law restricting abortion, even including third trimester, must (per the US Supreme Court) have an exception for the life and health of the mother. Further, the Court has said that “health” must be interpreted broadly, to include not only medical, but psychological, emotional, familial, and other factors. In essence, all that is needed is an abortionist who will state that the abortion is needed to preserve the woman’s mental or emotional health.

The U.S. Congress recently passed legislation outlawing partial birth abortion, but several appelate courts have ruled it unconstitutional because it does not contain a “health” exception. Consequently, it has never been enforced.
That is too bad…a doctor can basically lie so a woman can get an abortion?
If this stuff as the OP stated actually takes place it really is a sick world.
 
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Karin:
That is too bad…a doctor can basically lie so a woman can get an abortion?
He doesn’t really even have to lie; all he–or she–has to do is to say that the woman is depressed from experiencing an unintended pregnancy, or her family situation would suffer, any of which could be true but temporary.
 
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JimG:
He doesn’t really even have to lie; all he–or she–has to do is to say that the woman is depressed from experiencing an unintended pregnancy, or her family situation would suffer, any of which could be true but temporary.
Ok I see where you are going but who is to say it is a “temporary situation”?
 
If the women who abort knew the truth, they would be horrified. This is nothing short of evil.
 
Karin said:
Ok I see where you are going but who is to say it is a “temporary situation”?

It may or may not be temporary. I guess the point is that it is entirely up to the abortion doctor to decide whether abortion is needed to preserve a woman’s health. And as noted before, “health” can mean nearly anything from family circumstances to undue worry. And the abortionist has a financial stake in the decision.
 
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JimG:
It may or may not be temporary. I guess the point is that it is entirely up to the abortion doctor to decide whether abortion is needed to preserve a woman’s health. And as noted before, “health” can mean nearly anything from family circumstances to undue worry. And the abortionist has a financial stake in the decision.
No I have to disagree…it is up to the woman (as the law stands now) if she actually wants to terminate her pregnancy not the doctor.
Any doctor has a financial stake in treatment (so to speak) that he or she prescribes.


 
Karin said:
No I have to disagree…it is up to the woman (as the law stands now) if she actually wants to terminate her pregnancy not the doctor.
Any doctor has a financial stake in treatment (so to speak) that he or she prescribes.



OK, your right! The woman could stop the abortion at any time. But if she needs a health reason, the abortionist will be happy to provide one!
 
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JimG:
OK, your right! The woman could stop the abortion at any time. But if she needs a health reason, the abortionist will be happy to provide one!
EXACTLY!
So how do you go about changing the womans mind that this is not a needed procedure?
 
Karin,
By providing a free ultrasound for her to see her baby. Approx 40% of women who intend to have abortions and receive free ultrasouds decide to keep their babies. This is why prolife groups are trying to make it mandatory for a free ultrasound to be available to all pregnant women considering abortion.
 
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BlestOne:
Karin,
By providing a free ultrasound for her to see her baby. Approx 40% of women who intend to have abortions and receive free ultrasouds decide to keep their babies. This is why prolife groups are trying to make it mandatory for a free ultrasound to be available to all pregnant women considering abortion.
Kool Beans! But what about the other 60% of gals that still get abortions?
 
I thought third - trimester abortions where illegal?
Here in Dallas, Texas we have an abortion clinic called Aarons that I do sidewalk counseling at. They can now do late term abortions up to nine months SIMPLY because they are now what is called an " ambulatory surgical center." They renovated all their buildings to meet the requirements.
 
Karin said:
EXACTLY!
So how do you go about changing the womans mind that this is not a needed procedure?

I have a theory that very often women obtain abortions because they are abandoned by men.

There are several possibilities: Women must learn not to attach themselves to men who will abandon them. Men must learn not to simply use and discard women.

The contraceptive culture makes both of those behaviors easier and thus more likely to occur.
 
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JimG:
I have a theory that very often women obtain abortions because they are abandoned by men.
Ok I can see this for certain instances…but I know many married couples that have gotten pregnant by “accident” and they have abortions…no one is abandoning anybody…these couples are still together…so how does this fit in?
 
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Karin:
Ok I can see this for certain instances…but I know many married couples that have gotten pregnant by “accident” and they have abortions…no one is abandoning anybody…these couples are still together…so how does this fit in?
It doesn’t. My abandonment theory applies mainly to single women.

It would seem in the case you mention that the two partners are simply using each other, and discarding any inconvenient results.
 
Karin said:
Kool Beans! But what about the other 60% of gals that still get abortions?

Make it illegal. Abortion increased 1000% after it was legalized.
 
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