Fetal Experimentation:Re to The Horrible Truth About Euthenasia

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BlindSheep:
Make it illegal. Abortion increased 1000% after it was legalized.
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Ah so we are at back alley aboritons again with woman and children both dying? Making it illegal is not going to solve the problem IMHO…
 
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Karin:
Ah so we are at back alley aboritons again with woman and children both dying? Making it illegal is not going to solve the problem IMHO…
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It will save about 90%. There will always be lawbreakers, no law prevents 100% of crime.
 
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BlindSheep:
It will save about 90%. There will always be lawbreakers, no law prevents 100% of crime.
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Really…I dont think so (MHO)…woman for centuries have been aborting babies, legal or not. Now instead of knowing about it (how many abortions are done) we wont know becuase they will not be reported.
 
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BlindSheep:
Not just my opinion, read on:
abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_love_them_both_27.asp#But%20were%20illegal%20abortion%20deaths%20reported%20accurately?%20Before%20legalization?
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Actually the thing that saved or helped woman when abortion was illegal was the use of antibiotics.
But these facts only prove that yes woman got abortions even when they where not legal(we still do not know the **actual number of illegal aboritons **preformed we can go to 30 different sources and get 30 different answers)…we as a sociey need to find a way to make woman NOT want to have them (legal or not)
 
The article did give an estimate: 100,000 annually. Compare this to today’s 1,550,000 a year. Of course there were abortions; I never said there weren’t. There are all kinds of crimes committed in spite of the law, but this doesn’t mean the law is useless. Laws reduce crime and provide a standard of behavior; there are a lot of people who feel that because something is legal, it must not be immoral. The year before Roe, 39 women died from abortion complications, and about 100,000 babies… This year, 1,450,000 more babies died. Even if not a single woman died (and women did die), who should be protected; 39 women who chose to commit a crime, or 1,450,000 innocent children?
 
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BlindSheep:
The article did give an estimate: 100,000 annually. Compare this to today’s 1,550,000 a year. Of course there were abortions; I never said there weren’t. There are all kinds of crimes committed in spite of the law, but this doesn’t mean the law is useless. Laws reduce crime and provide a standard of behavior; there are a lot of people who feel that because something is legal, it must not be immoral. The year before Roe, 39 women died from abortion complications, and about 100,000 babies… This year, 1,450,000 more babies died. Even if not a single woman died (and women did die), who should be protected; 39 women who chose to commit a crime, or 1,450,000 innocent children?
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Both should be protected :yup: …the mothers that think that they have no option other than to abort (these woman need to know there is another option and have to be taught that these options are better and the reasoning behind it) and the unborn children.
 
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Karin:
Both should be protected :yup: …the mothers that think that they have no option other than to abort (these woman need to know there is another option and have to be taught that these options are better and the reasoning behind it) and the unborn children.
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Both should be, but not all can be. Legal abortion might protect a handful of women who have a choice, at the expense of millions of babies that don’t; that’s the point I’m trying to make. Certainly I’m not opposed to educating women, I would still be pro-legal-abortion if not for the educational efforts of the pro-life movement. However, I still think the law is necessary, if only because the unborn child has a right to life which the law ought to recognise.
 
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BlindSheep:
Both should be, but not all can be. Legal abortion might protect a handful of women who have a choice, at the expense of millions of babies that don’t; that’s the point I’m trying to make.
Certainly I’m not opposed to educating women, I would still be pro-legal-abortion if not for the educational efforts of the pro-life movement. Care to explain this:confused: ??? However, I still think the law is necessary, if only because the unborn child has a right to life which the law ought to recognise.
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I think we are both trying to get to the same point but are following two different routes to get there…🙂
 
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Karin:
I think we are both trying to get to the same point but are following two different routes to get there…🙂
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Maybe, I was under the impression that you were opposed to making abortion illegal.
As for me, I was raised a liberal agnostic, and when I was 17 I set out to write an essay about abortion for college. In the course of my research, I went to several pro-life websites which eventually convinced me to change my position. My parents weren’t happy :rolleyes: .
That was nine years ago, and no pro-choice argument has managed to sway me since.
My oldest daughter may owe her life to those websites, since she was “unplanned”.
 
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BlindSheep:
Maybe, I was under the impression that you were opposed to making abortion illegal.
As for me, I was raised a liberal agnostic, and when I was 17 I set out to write an essay about abortion for college. In the course of my research, I went to several pro-life websites which eventually convinced me to change my position. My parents weren’t happy :rolleyes: .
That was nine years ago, and no pro-choice argument has managed to sway me since.
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I agree that it should be made illegal but i do not agree with many that say just make it illegal with out the education of woman etc. there (in general) needs to be an overhaul to the morality in this and many other countries but when you set one faiths religious beliefs over anothers you run into problems…this would also need to be resolved.
 
Third trimester abortions are not illegal. Every law restricting abortion, even including third trimester, must (per the US Supreme Court) have an exception for the life and health of the mother. Further, the Court has said that “health” must be interpreted broadly, to include not only medical, but psychological, emotional, familial, and other factors. In essence, all that is needed is an abortionist who will state that the abortion is needed to preserve the woman’s mental or emotional health.
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The U.S. Congress recently passed legislation outlawing partial birth abortion, but several appelate courts have ruled it unconstitutional because it does not contain a “health” exception. Consequently, it has never been enforced.
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They are illegal in the UK, and always have been.

Consequently, that would make the Tories seem even more right-wing than most Americans, as they are seeking to further downscale, and, most likely, illegalise.

Over here, however, a child can legally be aborted on the day before what would be her first birthday.
 
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