Few questions to my Orthodox friends.

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I want to thank everyone answered my questions, especially dzheremi.

But I have question to you dzheremi, You are Coptic Orthodox but English is not your native language, as far as I know, that Coptic churches belong to the Middle East ?
 
No, English is my native language. The Coptic Orthodox Church began in Alexandria, Egypt, and most of its people are still Egyptians/in Egypt (and also Sudan and Libya), but there are Coptic churches everywhere in the world now. I am not in Egypt, and never have been.
 
No, English is my native language. The Coptic Orthodox Church began in Alexandria, Egypt, and most of its people are still Egyptians/in Egypt (and also Sudan and Libya), but there are Coptic churches everywhere in the world now. I am not in Egypt, and never have been.
Thank you for the answer.

There is another subject I wrote is about Orthodox church and human rights, hope if you could give it a look, it is in this forum.

God bless
 
No, English is my native language. The Coptic Orthodox Church began in Alexandria, Egypt, and most of its people are still Egyptians/in Egypt (and also Sudan and Libya), but there are Coptic churches everywhere in the world now. I am not in Egypt, and never have been.
Doesn’t that fact violate the Orthodox canon that only one bishop may have jurisdiction over any land?
 
Only one bishop does have jurisdiction over the Church in any particular place. Whether I am in a Coptic church in Egypt, Mexico, Bolivia, or Fiji, I am under the authority of the Coptic Orthodox bishop of that particular territory, by virtue of being a baptized member of the Coptic Orthodox Church (but see below; it’s not so much the ethnic/jurisdictional identity of the bishop that matters, so much that he is a canonically ordained bishop serving within our communion; if I were to move some place else without any Coptic Church, I would be obliged to attend liturgy in another OO church and be under the authority of whoever the local OO bishop is). I hope you are not interpreting the “one bishop for one land” idea to mean that there should only be one literal bishop per country (in the sense of “geopolitical unit”). In some places this is how it works out (e.g., I believe that the authority of HG Bishop Suriel of Melbourne extends over all of Oceania, not just Melbourne, so Fiji, for instance, would have one bishop for the entire country), but elsewhere (e.g., Australia proper, which also has HG Bishop David overseeing Sydney and its affiliated regions) this is not manageable due to the size of the territory over which the Church extends. I believe that the spirit of the rule in question is to prevent phyletism or other kinds of ethnic division in what is supposed to be one Church, whereby I could move to Armenia or some place like that and because I am a “Copt” and not an Armenian move to set up a Coptic hierarchy so as to not have to commune with people who aren’t Copts, even though we’re all the same Church (Copts and Armenians). This is the original context in which the condemnation of the current situation came to a head in the modern day, as far as understand it, though it had nothing to do with anyone in my communion. The story goes that Bulgarians (EO) in Constantinople set up their own Bulgarian diocese so as to have an ethnic patriarch only for Bulgarians, to keep themselves separate from the preexisting Greek communities. This is not appropriate, and although I have a feeling that the OO approach to such issues might be a little more messy than the EO (though maybe not in practice, since the EO also have these cross-jurisdictional issues in North America; it is recognized as not ideal nor canonical, but the reality of subsequent waves of immigration into a land that is already a big jumbled mess of many ethnicities), it is resolved similarly to the extent that it is resolved ever: Everyone who is OO goes to the church that is already here/wherever they are. So, for instance, here in Albuquerque, the Coptic Church is the only game in town for all non-Chalcedonian Orthodox, and we regularly commune Ethiopians as a result (I don’t know of any Orthodox Syriacs or Armenians in the area, but if they were here they’d come to St. Pishoy COC, too).

So, yes, only one bishop per territory is at least the goal, even if historical circumstance makes that hard to achieve. We are under HG Bishop Youssef here in the southern U.S., who is only one bishop (I’ve met the man in person; he is not several people). 😃
 
Q1 - Why do the Orthodox church belong into particular countries but not all over the world like the Catholic church for example ?
The Orthodox Church does not belong to particular countries. The Orthodox Church is the Kingdom of God on earth. The ethnic flavor came about when historical circumstances resulted in the Church being isolated from other places, and took on a character that resembled the local ethnicity. Remember that the Church was boxed in by the Catholic Church to the West, Islam to the South and East, and of course expansion to the North is very limited. It was only when Russia has expanded to Siberia were the Orthodox Church able to do missions beyond the usual territorial boundaries.
Q2 - Do you believe that your church belong to the saint Peter ? If yes, why? and if no, why, and how do you explain what the lord Jesus Christ said about saint Peter and his church ?
No. We believe we belong to God. Jesus said, “I will build MY church.” The Church belongs to Christ.
Q3 - Why you don’t believe that the holy spirit is from the Son ?
Because the Bible says so.
Q4 - Do you call saint Mary, The Mother of God, or The Mother of The God ? because in my native language, Orthodox churches call Mary the Mother of The God (in my native language that means mother of God but not fully like the Catholics when they say "The Mother of God ". I don’t know if you have this in English ?
We call her Theotokos. That translates to “one who bore God” or “one who gave birth to God”. That is an important distinction and much better than “mother” because motherhood and fatherhood can be acquired by adoption. Case in point, St. Joseph. By calling Mary the Theotokos, we don’t only profess that she is the mother of God the Word, she bore God the Word in her womb and gave birth to Him.
Q5 - Do you believe that your Pope can’t made mistake when it comes to spiritual teaching ?
The Eastern Orthodox Church does not have a Pope. Try the Copts 😉
Q6 - Why you don’t believe in the place where dead people go, again, I can’t recall the name but I guess you all know what I mean, so you don’t believe in it but yet, you pray to God for the dead people? why do you pray for them, sense when we die we directly go to hell or heaven, there is no place in the middle ?
We don’t believe one is permanently in heaven or hell until after the Last Judgement. So praying for the dead can still save them between now until the Second Coming.
Q7 - Do you believe that who don’t belong to the Orthodox Church is going to hell?
No. Judgement is God’s alone, only He can say who goes to hell or not.
 
dzheremi - No. No individual person, even if they are Pope, is infallible in the Orthodox Church. Most Orthodox churches don’t have Popes, though. Mine does, and did before Rome ever did. Mostly we’ve got patriarchs, though (and even the Coptic Orthodox Pope is most properly referred to as “Pope and Patriarch of Alexandria”…Pope is a title for us, not really a separate office as the Latins think of their Papacy; it indicates seniority and a different set of responsibilities, but ultimately the Pope is also a bishop).
Could you elaborate on the part in red?🙂
 
ConstantineTG;10728861]The Orthodox Church does not belong to particular countries. The Orthodox Church is the Kingdom of God on earth. The ethnic flavor came about when historical circumstances resulted in the Church being isolated from other places, and took on a character that resembled the local ethnicity. Remember that the Church was boxed in by the Catholic Church to the West, Islam to the South and East, and of course expansion to the North is very limited. It was only when Russia has expanded to Siberia were the Orthodox Church able to do missions beyond the usual territorial boundaries.
I would like to think that both the Orthodox and Catholic Church, albeit in schism now, constitutes the kingdom of God on earth.👍
No. We believe we belong to God. Jesus said, “I will build MY church.” The Church belongs to Christ.
👍
We don’t believe one is permanently in heaven or hell until after the Last Judgement. So praying for the dead can still save them between now until the Second Coming.
I did not know this about eastern orthodoxy. What do you mean, exactly? :confused:
No. Judgement is God’s alone, only He can say who goes to hell or not.
👍
 
Sure. The first bishop ever to receive the title Pope was HH Pope Heraclas (d. 247), thirteenth bishop to serve as head of the church in Alexandria. The then-bishop of Rome, Dionysius, wrote in a letter to Philemon: “τοῦτον ἐγὼ τὸν κανόνα καὶ τὸν τύπον παρὰ τοῦ μακαρίου πάπα ἡμῶν Ἡρακλᾶ παρέλαβον.” *

It was not applied in any exclusive sense to the bishop of Rome until around the 11th century (and of course Alexandria has never given it up), though it had started to be used more and more to refer to him by the 6th.*
 
Sure. The first bishop ever to receive the title Pope was HH Pope Heraclas (d. 247), thirteenth bishop to serve as head of the church in Alexandria. The then-bishop of Rome, Dionysius, wrote in a letter to Philemon: “τοῦτον ἐγὼ τὸν κανόνα καὶ τὸν τύπον παρὰ τοῦ μακαρίου πάπα ἡμῶν Ἡρακλᾶ παρέλαβον.” *

It was not applied in any exclusive sense to the bishop of Rome until around the 11th century (and of course Alexandria has never given it up), though it had started to be used more and more to refer to him by the 6th.*
Oh, the title…Thanks Dzheremi. 🙂
 
I did not know this about eastern orthodoxy. What do you mean, exactly? :confused:
We believe that those who die today receive a foretaste of their eternal state, either heaven or hell. But those are not the final state. Heaven will be the renewed heaven and earth at the end of ages where Christ will dwell among us in a more concrete and tangible manner. So the saints are in a heavenly state but not yet in that final heaven. This is mainly because we still have to get to the Resurrection which so far only the Theotokos has received. So nothing is final until “the end of ages.” So our prayers can still save those who today are in a hellish state.
 
We believe that those who die today receive a foretaste of their eternal state, either heaven or hell. But those are not the final state. Heaven will be the renewed heaven and earth at the end of ages where Christ will dwell among us in a more concrete and tangible manner. So the saints are in a heavenly state but not yet in that final heaven. This is mainly because we still have to get to the Resurrection which so far only the Theotokos has received. So nothing is final until “the end of ages.” So our prayers can still save those who today are in a hellish state.
I understand now. Thanks…
 
Does the Orthodox Church consider patriarchs/popes to be vicars of Christ?
 
I believe every man can make a mistake in teaching about God be it patriarch, Bishop, Priest, deacon or layman and Pope.
 
Does the Orthodox Church consider patriarchs/popes to be vicars of Christ?
While the term has been used at some point, it does not carry the same meaning as it is in the Roman Catholic Church.
 
We believe that those who die today receive a foretaste of their eternal state, either heaven or hell. But those are not the final state. Heaven will be the renewed heaven and earth at the end of ages where Christ will dwell among us in a more concrete and tangible manner. So the saints are in a heavenly state but not yet in that final heaven. This is mainly because we still have to get to the Resurrection which so far only the Theotokos has received. So nothing is final until “the end of ages.” So our prayers can still save those who today are in a hellish state.
I cannot believe that this is supposed to be the Orthodox faith. This denies the particular judgment, and is therefore heresy.
 
I cannot believe that this is supposed to be the Orthodox faith. This denies the particular judgment, and is therefore heresy.
I don’t see how what he wrote denies the particular judgment.
 
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