Film on beastiality praised as "elegant" "lyrical"

[deb1]

Hey, the Op and I must think alike, as I started a thread on this also.

When you consider that the bioethics professor, Peter Singer, at Princeton wrote an article called Heavy Petting(look it up on the internet) which claims that bestility is all right, then you begin to seriously worry about our society.

 

[slyboots]

"In the end, Robinson Devor ended up agreeing with the Roman writer Terence, who said “I consider nothing human alien to me.”

I know. We all said if homosexuality becomes acceptable then children and animals are next. But thank God I am still completely appalled. And glad to see that many others are too. But not Sundance. To them it’s art.

Quote from Sundance…
ZOO (Director: Robinson Devor)-A *humanizing *look at the life and bizarre death of a seemingly normal Seattle family man who met his untimely end after an unusual encounter with a horse. World Premiere.

 

[Jennifer123]

Hey, the Op and I must think alike, as I started a thread on this also.

I know - I was expecting it to be merged…I guess I wasn’t too thorough but to my credit I did look to see if anyone had posted the story… Great minds, eh??

 

[Dirk_Skene]

Yeeeezzzz! That is sick. And they played this at Sundance??

 

[LovedForever]

The Catholic Church warned - back in 1930 when the FIRST christian church in history approved very “limited” use of artificial contraception in some circumstances (Anglican Church) - that the “slippery slope” had now begun! That with the acceptance of artificial birth control (in ANY circumstance however “limited”) - would naturally come a succession of all kinds of ills: high divorce rates, promiscuity, abortion, child abuse and finally… acceptance in society of homosexual behavior and bestiality.

It is a natural progression to accepting these things. I mean, why not?
Once you take that detour of separating sex from total self-giving love between married people by contracepting - what possible reason are you left with to answer the question why these other perverted practices are wrong?

When sexual activity is reduced to pleasure only we behave as animals. And eventually - we try and become “one” with them.

Absolutely revolting. But not surprising. It was just a matter of time.

 

[Asbestos_Mango]

Um… er… um…

eeew.

 

[Rye-Guy]

:bigyikes:
What is the world coming to?

 

[Rye-Guy]

:bigyikes:
What is the world coming to?

 

[redactorab]

I find that by avoiding reading The Drudge Report, I miss most “news” of this kind, and I’m better for it. He loves raking the muck. There will always be muck, and it IS tempting to sort of gape at it from time to time–if only to give my righteous indignation meter a kick–but in my view he’s giving junk of this sort way more publicity than it deserves or than it would’ve otherwise garnered. And you know what they say about publicity.

I’m not going to change Hollywood, or the mind any earnest yet twisted “alternative” film-maker, but I can work on changing my own heart and hope the effects of that change ripple out to the people nearest me, and on outward from there.

 

[deb1]

I find that by avoiding reading The Drudge Report, I miss most “news” of this kind, and I’m better for it. He loves raking the muck. There will always be muck, and it IS tempting to sort of gape at it from time to time–if only to give my righteous indignation meter a kick–but in my view he’s giving junk of this sort way more publicity than it deserves or than it would’ve otherwise garnered. And you know what they say about publicity.

I’m not going to change Hollywood, or the mind any earnest yet twisted “alternative” film-maker, but I can work on changing my own heart and hope the effects of that change ripple out to the people nearest me, and on outward from there.

This is several places other then Drudge. I’ve seen news reports on television about this, for example.

We have to ask ourselves how did we get to a place in civilization in which a documentary on sex with animals can be described as beautiful? Or a bioethics professor at Princeton, Peter Singer, can write an article claiming that bestility might be all right and yet still retain his job?

Sadly, if this becomes mainstream, no one will be able to ignore this.

 

[deb1]

"In the end, Robinson Devor ended up agreeing with the Roman writer Terence, who said “I consider nothing human alien to me.”

I know. We all said if homosexuality becomes acceptable then children and animals are next. But thank God I am still completely appalled. And glad to see that many others are too. But not Sundance. To them it’s art.

Quote from Sundance…
ZOO (Director: Robinson Devor)-A humanizing look at the life and bizarre death of a seemingly normal Seattle family man who met his untimely end after an unusual encounter with a horse. World Premiere.

One of the ways that homosexuality has become mainstream is through a sort of emotional manipulation. Cases are presented of homosexuals on Oprah, for example, in which the individual describes his saddness over society’s refusal to accept his lifestyle and society begin to doubt that an act that was previously considered taboo is still a sin.

Disclaimer: I am only playing devil’s advocate with the below scenario

Someone might point out that homosexual acts occur between two consenting adults and therefore should be acceptable, while bestility involves a nonconsenting beast… But a person engaged in bestility could make the point that, “Hey, my doggy has initiated this relationship.” Let’s face it, we’ve all had certain canines try and get a bit to friendly with us. So, the dog-such a person might claim-is consenting. And society is being cruel to limit love to merely human to human affection. After all, we are all just animals anyway.

 

[colliric]

First off, it’s not Hollywood, it’s an independent filmmaker. Which means people too weird for Hollywood .

Second, when I hear the word “lyrical,” I think, “Expensively shot and boring.”

The word “Elegant”, similarly, means “nothing really moves, but it’s well-filmed.”

Ed Wood films could be described as “elegant and lyrical.”

So not only is it vile, it’s probably not even a good movie. Of course. You don’t have to make a good movie, as long as you’re offensive enough. I say it’s time for some heavy censorship. If they interpreted the Second Amendment the way the do the First, we’d all have the Bomb by now.

I blame Hollywood because it has allowed such films and filmmakers to exist because of Hollywood’s declining Censorship laws. Heck “Hound Dog” is a hollywood funded flick during which a 12 year old gets raped, also funded by hollywood was “American Psycho”, “Kill Bill”, “Hannibal” and other terrible films now called “Blockbusters”.

I loved the film “Midnight Cowboy” which started the anti-censorship ideals of Hollywood, It’s actually a very good picture, but it paved the way for the transformation of the industry into a industry generally appealing to the lowest common denominator, from the family friendly 30s and 40s, during which if any actor said the word “Damn” it would likely have been censored and was. You also couldn’t see the scene in Frankenstein where Boris Karloff chucks a kid into a pond(which although it is terribly violent cuts away at the right moment), or the other part in Gone With The Wind where Scarlett shoots the Yankee. I think the overall effect f Midnight Cowboy winning “Best Picture”(Although it did deserve it) was a negative one because it has lead to the state we are in today.

heck the Rob Schneider flick “The Animal” included scenes which seemed to suggest beastiality was something laughable, not something sinful and deadly serious. That is the first step from having it be socially unacceptable to socially acceptable, making it a laughing matter rather than a seriously deranged behavior.

 

[redactorab]

We have to ask ourselves how did we get to a place in civilization in which a documentary on sex with animals can be described as beautiful? Or a bioethics professor at Princeton, Peter Singer, can write an article claiming that bestility might be all right and yet still retain his job?

How did we get to this place? Original sin, I’d say.

 

[rayne100]

That is the usual argument stated. But, consent does not make an action good. The civil law often contradicts natural moral law. The notion that consenting to an evil act is civilly acceptable is an abomination just like bestiality.

The same goes for acts like euthanasia that claim one may bind another to murder them in the name of mercy. Consent is not enough to justify evil acts.

I was speaking in regard to legallity not religion. The poster asked how soon it would be before beastiality would be legal and my response was never because there is no consent.

 

[deb1]

I was speaking in regard to legallity not religion. The poster asked how soon it would be before beastiality would be legal and my response was never because there is no consent.

Please understand that I am playing devil’s advocate and I wince as I write this.

Most of us have had dogs try and get to friendly with our leg(honestly, I tried and tried to come up with a nicer way to say this) some very twisted people could claim that the dog is initiating a consenting relationship with the human.

 

[rayne100]

Please understand that I am playing devil’s advocate and I wince as I write this.

Most of us have had dogs try and get to friendly with our leg(honestly, I tried and tried to come up with a nicer way to say this) some very twisted people could claim that the dog is initiating a consenting relationship with the human.

I actually almost spit my soda all over my keyboard when I read this.
That is truly laughable, But I understand the side you are trying to debate.

 

[deb1]

I actually almost spit my soda all over my keyboard when I read this.
That is truly laughable, But I understand the side you are trying to debate.

Shew! I was frightened that I might offend you. Laughter is better.