Final straw for me to leave Catholicism

[Sundiver]

Less than 2% of the Catholic clergy are engaged in sexual abuse. There are more than a 120 reports a year from protestant churches. You don’t hear that in the liberal news.

 

[LawyersGunsAndMoney]

No because if that were true, straight men would also have 5-6 times number of partners as straight women on average, yet they’re only 20% more.

I’m the guy who got a c in economics, but the delta between gay men and straight men has to account for the relatively fewer straight women who are interested in regular casual hookups.

 

[Aquinas11]

the delta between gay men and straight men has to account for the relatively fewer straight women who are interested in regular casual hookups

and the delta between gay men and straight men is that they’re gay, not that they’re men

 

[LawyersGunsAndMoney]

and the delta between gay men and straight men is that they’re gay, not that they’re men

If that were true, lesbians would have similar numbers of partners as gay men, which is definitely not the case.

 

[on_the_hill]

phil19034:

you should leave the United States because you are disgusted with Trump and people who voted for him.

I would LOVE to leave Trumps dystopia nightmare America…

And you will, in either 2020 or in 2024.

 

[Gorgias]

Isn’t being gay supposed to disqualify from ordinationm? If so, why are 40-80% of priests gay? They have been fake since the beginning, so the Church has a huge cartel of invalid priests(not technically invalid although I’m not sure… At least invalid in that they shouldn’t have been ordained in the first place.)

Recent policies have been put in place, recommending that men with “deep-seated homosexual tendencies” not be given admission to seminary.

That doesn’t mean that any existing priest who is gay is an “invalid priest.”

Moreover, are you certain that “40-80% of priests [are] gay”? Some have guessed at the number, but no one knows for sure.

It’s with snarky passive aggressive Catholics trash talking me when I’m going through a mentAl health crisis and spiritual crisis simultaneously.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that perhaps the attitude that you’re perceiving is a reflection of the attitude you’ve been projecting. So… “where is your charity?”

A thread filled with such hate.

I’m hearing ‘frustration’ moreso than ‘hate’.

It depends.

If a bully is picking on a minority and inciting hatred, I see nothing wrong with putting an end to it.

The problem with the approach Canada is taking is how they identify ‘bully’, ‘minority’, and who gets to make that determination (as well as the recourse the accused has, once the accusation has been leveled).

 

[ConstantlyConverting]

Lets call a spade a spade.

One error I find, and I dont even think it is intentional, Is lessening the abuse because of protestant/real world/boy scout, etc percentages, blaming gay sexual orientation, everyone is a sinner mentality.

What the abusive priests did directly to children is worse than Judas or those who were not there at the Crucifixion, or Peter denying Christ.

Their role as representatives of Christ on earth makes their sin that much worse. In a spiritual sense, it is worse than murder, rather than killing the body, they are killing the soul of an innocent child.

“If anyone causes one of these little ones–those who believe in me–to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”

The fact that it happened so many times, over so many years, in the manner it did, is truly unfathomable.

It is a mistake to criticize anyone who this effects with thoughts of leaving the Church, questioning their faith, or even turn away from Christ, with anything other than sympathy and prayers. To do less, is to not truly acknowledge just how horrific these crimes are.

 

[Aquinas11]

If that were true

Well feel free to cite data proving your unsupported hypothesis that if straight men had equal access to sex as gay men, they would have equal number of lifetimes partners. Maybe that research was done in some controlled environment, but highly doubtful and even if was done, sample size far lower than data I cited.

 

[LawyersGunsAndMoney]

Edit: going down a rabbit hole. Sorry OP.

 

[Aquinas11]

PM me, this is not fair to OP

 

[Irishmom2]

Aquinas, why not start your own thread on this topic elsewhere? You are derailing the OPs thread.

Thank you, just saw your post.