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Assyrian412
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My parish priest and me had a conversation about it, I did not ask who had disciplined them or what kind of punishment they received. My parish is right beside a Catholic school with others close by and I do not see why he would lie about something like that. I imagine it was either the principle or the school board who disciplined the teacher.
Keep in mind the Catholic schools where I live are not private schools, they are publicly funded. In Canada, the curriculum is determined by the provincial government which is currently run by the liberal party with a lesbian woman running it so it is not unlikely that the story I have been told is true.
From the way things are from what I have heard from friends who are attending and have graduated from Catholic schools here, the story is probably factual…
EDIT: I am unsure if similar comments about premarital sex would lead to “discipline” but I would hope they would not as Catholic school teachers should be free to teach what the Catholic Church has always taught.
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mommy_k
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Op i am sorry about your experiences…
I hope you find a wonderful school.
We are in the northeast in suburbia and this area may be a bit more formal and in thier approach to catholic education then other areas. Having God in school is very important to us. We have been Catholic school parents for 17 years now…and have children in college down to elementary. They are all solid students and in very good colleges, so the academics are a non issue.
There have been times that I was like what the heck??? But we regrouped with the teacher or school and resolved it. We are a faith community first…and our family belongs to a different parish.
Recently at a birthday party when pizza came out in the bowling alley…all the little friends of our youngest all bowed and said grace our loud without prompting. How sweet.
they are middle school age…
This is one example of Catholic education here.I hope you find a school community like ours. Don’t give up.
I hope you find a wonderful school.
We are in the northeast in suburbia and this area may be a bit more formal and in thier approach to catholic education then other areas. Having God in school is very important to us. We have been Catholic school parents for 17 years now…and have children in college down to elementary. They are all solid students and in very good colleges, so the academics are a non issue.
There have been times that I was like what the heck??? But we regrouped with the teacher or school and resolved it. We are a faith community first…and our family belongs to a different parish.
Recently at a birthday party when pizza came out in the bowling alley…all the little friends of our youngest all bowed and said grace our loud without prompting. How sweet.
they are middle school age…This is one example of Catholic education here.I hope you find a school community like ours. Don’t give up.
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Rau
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Is the catholic faith taught in that school or not? Does the government set the curriculum for that? I doubt it.
If the faith is not taught, I cannot imagine why the school exists as a Catholic institution.
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Kay_Cee
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I sent both of my daughters to Catholic school grades K-8 and I was very pleased with what they were taught.
My younger daughter is now a 5th grade teacher. She opted to work in a Catholic school, even though it means earning a far lower salary, because she doesn’t want to be forced to teach a bunch of nonsense like homosexuality is great and that there are more than two genders.
Frankly, I would be terrified to send my kids to public school nowadays.
Oh, and BTW, we live in California.
My younger daughter is now a 5th grade teacher. She opted to work in a Catholic school, even though it means earning a far lower salary, because she doesn’t want to be forced to teach a bunch of nonsense like homosexuality is great and that there are more than two genders.
Frankly, I would be terrified to send my kids to public school nowadays.
Oh, and BTW, we live in California.
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Wedge_Antilles
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Catholic schools vary in quality of education and religious fidelity in the same way public schools vary.
Our Catholic school of choice in the mid-atlantic is extremely Christ-centered and very faithful to the teachings of the Church, at least so far. They are a recent blue-ribbon school.
The parish typically leads the diocese in seminarians, which speaks well of the Monsignor who leads both the parish and the school. They have daily religion classes starting in Pre-K, and weekly mass where the younger children are paired up with a child who has received their first communion.
I went to a private Catholic school that was about twice as much in the same area, not associated with the Diocese, and while the education was top notch, the religious elements were lacking both in hindsight and from people I talk to today.
Our Catholic school of choice in the mid-atlantic is extremely Christ-centered and very faithful to the teachings of the Church, at least so far. They are a recent blue-ribbon school.
The parish typically leads the diocese in seminarians, which speaks well of the Monsignor who leads both the parish and the school. They have daily religion classes starting in Pre-K, and weekly mass where the younger children are paired up with a child who has received their first communion.
I went to a private Catholic school that was about twice as much in the same area, not associated with the Diocese, and while the education was top notch, the religious elements were lacking both in hindsight and from people I talk to today.
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Assyrian412
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The faith is taught to an extent. It is a Catholic school. I never said it is not taught… however, the controversial moral teachings of the Church seem to be areas of the faith that are left alone the majority of the time and people need to be very careful about what they say ie the teacher I just spoke about… I am unsure if there is some sort of disagreement you have with my post or not, maybe you live around here and have different experiences? I’m not speaking generally I am speaking about what I have seen and heard. I do not speak about ALL schools in my province.
I am simply pointing out, like many on here have been, what I have either heard about or experienced at Catholic Schools where I live. Of course I agree that if a Catholic school does not teach the Catholic faith, the school has no reason to exist as a Catholic institution…
I was pointing out that it is publicly funded because it is quite obvious that if the provincial government is in charge of the curriculum and the school is funded by the government, the school will obviously have a lot less freedom in what it can and cannot teach. That is all.
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Hoosier_Daddy
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The west is mission territory with little catholic identity. It’s a mess.
On these boards or in real life if anyone says " I went to 12 years of Catholic school". It will be followed immediately by something anti Catholic.
This year I am coaching for the local Catholic schools. I’m pleased with the behavior of the kids but shocked by thier lack of knowledge of thier own faith. They love to talk of karma, or atrology. But have no idea how to pray the rosary…
That’s not all on the schools, parents are the primary educators!
I’d gladly send my kids to public schools before parochial ones but, Thankfully we do neither.
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smallcat
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I’m so sorry this has been your experience. I know it is so in some Catholic schools in our diocese, but ours is strong, faithful, academically rigorous, and vibrant. It was a struggling school not even 5 years ago, at the verge of closing. We switched to a classical model and instituted daily Mass and it has grown by leaps and bounds. The children and families support each other in the faith and are encouraged to reflect on “the good, the true, the beautiful” in everything they do.
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Hoosier_Daddy
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So good to hear!
I know it’s hard tough to say, but this is why I root for things to fail. Sometimes it has to get bad before people change it. Sadly.
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buffalo
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You will definitely get secularism, immorality and PC in public schools. They will indoctrinate your kids.
Since parents are the first teachers teach them the true faith. Teach them philosophy and how to use logic and reason.
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buffalo
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So we should just abandon them.
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buffalo
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One must always ask - what is more important? Saving a soul or a high paying job?
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Hoosier_Daddy
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Who abandoned whom?So we should just abandon them.
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Rau
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I’d like to understand more about this issue you’ve raised. I appreciate you have no further info. If there is a restriction on teaching what is moral and what is not, that is a major issue.
This raises the question of why a Catholic school would tolerate having the State dictate religious content. BTW, where I live, there is a State contribution to Catholic schools, in addition to fees paid by parents.
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cloistered
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I started my children out in Catholic schools and switched them over to public years ago and couldn’t be happier. It may certainly not be all Catholic schools, but the ones around here are about staying away from the “undesireables”. The attitude of “we are better than than” is not hidden away, it is glorified by the school. I have found the academics to be similarly leveled, yet more boring worksheet based at the Catholic school. In turns of teaching the values of Christ, public school wins hands down around here.
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MarkInOregon
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No–overall my experience has been positive. This issues we have had I know I could also have had in the public schools. Would I like our school to be more “Catholic” probably, but they start each morning with a prayer service, have Mass once a week, go to confession, there are stations of the cross on Fridays during lent, there is religious education, and the school reinforces the faith and our beliefs are not actively undermined as they would be in the public school. Our kids go K-8 and then to public high school. Our school gives them a good education (students from our school are always ahead of kids from the local public schools) and a grounding in the faith. I’d like to see our school do more with regards to the faith, but they are doing a heck of a lot more than the public school would and at least for the first 9 years our values are not being undermined and I’m not coming home nightly having to defend the faith, and Catholic teaching–and that’s worth something.
The peace of Christ,
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Allegra
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That’s true. Unfortunately, the Catholic schools in my area aren’t failing in the eyes of the people who use them. Their kids don’t go to school with black kids, Hispanic kids, kids with divorced parents, kids with ADD, etc. And they pay good money for their kids to go there, so they don’t want their kids being taught antiquated ideas like birth control being a sin. And the kids who get bullied, well, they didn’t really fit in anyway.
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cloistered
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Yes! I’d say that the Catholic schools near us teach the kids about the sacraments, they go to weekly mass, BUT they do not practice Christian values. There is certainly no love of other. No thought that “the poor shall inherit the Earth”. Before I sent my kids to public school, I was blind to this and caught up in the culture of it. I am amazed at how more alive the teachings of Jesus are lived in our public school over the Catholic. I am so proud to send my kids that accept all: rich, poor, disabled, non-English speakers. They have learned SO much because of it.
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gracepoole
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Exactly.
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