First foray into the EME (cup, phewsh!)

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So the whole issue of touching the host didn’t come up for me b/c I was given the cup this week (for my first time). I didn’t spill, tho I couldn’t empty the cup myself (there was about half left…new years day was low attendance at the 9am mass!) – the taste (with the raging hormones of pregancy) makes me gag just taking a sip, I couldn’t even fathom swallowing an entire cup of it. So I handed it to one of the others to finish. I’m not scheduled for the actual host until March, so I have some time to reflect and pray on that…but I was just happy I didn’t mess anything up on my first day…

my kids were cute – there in the front row, you could see the shining gleam in my 5yo’s eyes – and when I looked over at him and caught his eye, he gave me this HUGE, exaggerated wink (like most kids do, with the jaw wide open as they struggle to close only one eye). I had to just smile.

Next week my DH is sched to read the second reading…my parents will be here, and when he realized that, he got nervous…I laughed and said “but you brief Generals and SES’s all the time without breaking a sweat” – I’m pretty sure he’s thinking: “honey, reading from the bible in church in front of your mother makes briefing a general seem like reading ds a story…” lol
 
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leaner:
So the whole issue of touching the host didn’t come up for me b/c I was given the cup this week (for my first time). I didn’t spill, tho I couldn’t empty the cup myself (there was about half left…new years day was low attendance at the 9am mass!) – the taste (with the raging hormones of pregancy) makes me gag just taking a sip, I couldn’t even fathom swallowing an entire cup of it. So I handed it to one of the others to finish. I’m not scheduled for the actual host until March, so I have some time to reflect and pray on that…but I was just happy I didn’t mess anything up on my first day…

**my kids were cute – there in the front row, you could see the shining gleam in my 5yo’s eyes – and when I looked over at him and caught his eye, he gave me this HUGE, exaggerated wink **(like most kids do, with the jaw wide open as they struggle to close only one eye). I had to just smile.

Next week my DH is sched to read the second reading…my parents will be here, and when he realized that, he got nervous…I laughed and said “but you brief Generals and SES’s all the time without breaking a sweat” – I’m pretty sure he’s thinking: “honey, reading from the bible in church in front of your mother makes briefing a general seem like reading ds a story…” lol
You might consider keeping more intensely focused on the Precious Blood. I think if most people truly believed they were holding the Blood of Jesus Christ, I don’t think they would dare take their eyes off of it…
 
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AltarMan:
You might consider keeping more intensely focused on the Precious Blood. I think if most people truly believed they were holding the Blood of Jesus Christ, I don’t think they would dare take their eyes off of it…
wow, thanks for the lecture, as well as the assumption I am an unworthy heathen who doesn’t believe in the miracle of the Eucharist…
I see no sin in looking up from the cup to glance at my family, but that would be between me and God as opposed to some faceless screename who feels it necessary to label those he doesn’t know as infidels…no? Such nice sentiment to open the new year with…:rolleyes:
 
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leaner:
wow, thanks for the lecture, as well as the assumption I am an unworthy heathen who doesn’t believe in the miracle of the Eucharist…
I see no sin in looking up from the cup to glance at my family, but that would be between me and God as opposed to some faceless screename who feels it necessary to label those he doesn’t know as infidels…no? Such nice sentiment to open the new year with…
I made no such assumption. You seem rather defensive. Why is that?

The fact that you mentioned what you mentioned suggested strongly to me (and I could well be confused) that perhaps your focus on the Precious Blood is not what it could (or perhaps should) be…

It’s been my personal experience that far too many people get involved in “sanctuary-based ministries” (MC, server, reader, EMHC, etc.) because they need attention. Because they need to feel “special” or “important.”

I certainly hope that’s not the case in your situation…
 
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AltarMan:
I made no such assumption. You seem rather defensive. Why is that?

The fact that you mentioned what you mentioned suggested strongly to me (and I could well be confused) that perhaps your focus on the Precious Blood is not what it could (or perhaps should) be…

It’s been my personal experience that far too many people get involved in “sanctuary-based ministries” (MC, server, reader, EMHC, etc.) because they need attention. Because they need to feel “special” or “important.”

I certainly hope that’s not the case in your situation…
Yes, I went and looked a few of your posts. i can see your thought process on this subject. I am defensive because you suggested my glancing up at my family indicated that I must not believe it is the true blood of Christ…which is not the case, so yes, when my faith is called into question by someone I get defensive. I see your distrust of EMHC/lectors and others who wish to answer their priests call to serve…it’s rather obvious
 
there is no such thing as an extraordinary minister of the Eucharist. But you might be referring to Extraordinary MInister of Holy Communion. I really don’t like all of the
“extras” up at the foot of the altar. In fact I am seriously thinking about “resigning” from EMHC altogether until I Ultimately (god willing) become a Deacon.

Unless thee is GALLONS of the precioius blood consumed at mass there is only need for EMHC if no deacons or preists are avail. Meaning The celebrant alone could distribute the host and if no other clergy present 2 EMHC could offer the cup.
 
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decn2b:
there is no such thing as an extraordinary minister of the Eucharist. But you might be referring to Extraordinary MInister of Holy Communion. I really don’t like all of the
“extras” up at the foot of the altar. In fact I am seriously thinking about “resigning” from EMHC altogether until I Ultimately (god willing) become a Deacon.

Unless thee is GALLONS of the precioius blood consumed at mass there is only need for EMHC if no deacons or preists are avail. Meaning The celebrant alone could distribute the host and if no other clergy present 2 EMHC could offer the cup.
What! You mean you don’t need 9 EMHCs for EVERY Mass!
Excuse my sarcasm. Our parish has well over a 100 EMHCs which is pure excess. If you rotate where you sit each week, it’s possible you could go a very long time without receiving communion from a priest (or a deacon - we have a deacon at every Mass). I would glady sit through a longer Mass so everyone could receive from a priest or deacon. Besides, having people spend more time singing and praying while communion takes longer can only be a good thing (one reason I love the Divine Liturgy, but that’s another thread…). The lines separating the laity from the ordained are gradually being blurred. Sorry to hi-jack this thread somewhat, but I think the introduction of EMHC’s is one thing that has helped fuel the loss of sacredness during Mass and the decline in the belief of the Real Presence. As one deacon put it (I’m paraphrasing) “we no longer think the host is ‘too holy’ to be touched by people who are not priests or deacons”. If that doesn’t signify a decline in the sacred, I don’t know what does.
 
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AltarMan:
I made no such assumption. You seem rather defensive. Why is that?

The fact that you mentioned what you mentioned suggested strongly to me (and I could well be confused) that perhaps your focus on the Precious Blood is not what it could (or perhaps should) be…

It’s been my personal experience that far too many people get involved in “sanctuary-based ministries” (MC, server, reader, EMHC, etc.) because they need attention. Because they need to feel “special” or “important.”

I certainly hope that’s not the case in your situation…
Reread your posts objectively and I think you’ll see that whether intended or not, they could be easily interpreted as passing judgment - the first one snide nonetheless.

Personally I don’t take communion under both species because the bread/body alone is sufficient. And personally (no offense to any of you) - I’ve never taken communion from an extraordinary minister - just priests or deacons. Not because I think extraordinaries are illicit…but because I think the whole dang thing has become overused and frankly, I’m protesting that in my own quiet way by “changing lines” to receive from the priest or deacon. People notice to varying reactions which is fine by me - it’s my choice (I genuflect as well and recieve on the tongue too…because that’s how I was taught and I’m set in my ways…which garners some interesting looks but that’s another story). Furthermore, I think we need more deacons which I’m inclined to look into myself once I’m settled in a single geographic location.

Your dissenting view is welcomed but please keep your remarks cordial and in the spirit of constructive debate.
 
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Elzee:
What! You mean you don’t need 9 EMHCs for EVERY Mass!
Excuse my sarcasm. Our parish has well over a 100 EMHCs which is pure excess. If you rotate where you sit each week, it’s possible you could go a very long time without receiving communion from a priest (or a deacon - we have a deacon at every Mass). I would glady sit through a longer Mass so everyone could receive from a priest or deacon. Besides, having people spend more time singing and praying while communion takes longer can only be a good thing (one reason I love the Divine Liturgy, but that’s another thread…). The lines separating the laity from the ordained are gradually being blurred. Sorry to hi-jack this thread somewhat, but I think the introduction of EMHC’s is one thing that has helped fuel the loss of sacredness during Mass and the decline in the belief of the Real Presence. As one deacon put it (I’m paraphrasing) “we no longer think the host is ‘too holy’ to be touched by people who are not priests or deacons”. If that doesn’t signify a decline in the sacred, I don’t know what does.
Never fear - I have a solution to too many EMHC’s…simply sit where you think the priest will distribute - and if he gets tricky and goes somewhere else, just change lines. I guesstimate that we have 12 EMHC’s at each weekend Mass in my parish. The priest (and deacon if he’s there) always distribute via the center aisle (which is foolproof since I sit in the middle). I sit on the left since that’s where our priest usually goes…but if the deacon isn’t there and the priest changes sides on me, I simply change lines. It’s entertaining to watch peoples’ expressions when I do this. Give it a try…
 
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decn2b:
there is no such thing as an extraordinary minister of the Eucharist. But you might be referring to Extraordinary MInister of Holy Communion. I really don’t like all of the
“extras” up at the foot of the altar. In fact I am seriously thinking about “resigning” from EMHC altogether until I Ultimately (god willing) become a Deacon.

Unless thee is GALLONS of the precioius blood consumed at mass there is only need for EMHC if no deacons or preists are avail. Meaning The celebrant alone could distribute the host and if no other clergy present 2 EMHC could offer the cup.
They changed the name again?? Since the change from Eucharistic Ministers (EM’s) I’ve always heard them called EMEu’s (my dad pronounces it like the bird name :rolleyes: ). Since Holy Communion and the Eucharist are the same, does it really matter which is used?
 
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leaner:
So the whole issue of touching the host didn’t come up for me b/c I was given the cup this week (for my first time). I didn’t spill, tho I couldn’t empty the cup myself (there was about half left…new years day was low attendance at the 9am mass!) – the taste (with the raging hormones of pregancy) makes me gag just taking a sip, I couldn’t even fathom swallowing an entire cup of it. So I handed it to one of the others to finish. I’m not scheduled for the actual host until March, so I have some time to reflect and pray on that…but I was just happy I didn’t mess anything up on my first day…

my kids were cute – there in the front row, you could see the shining gleam in my 5yo’s eyes – and when I looked over at him and caught his eye, he gave me this HUGE, exaggerated wink (like most kids do, with the jaw wide open as they struggle to close only one eye). I had to just smile.

Next week my DH is sched to read the second reading…my parents will be here, and when he realized that, he got nervous…I laughed and said “but you brief Generals and SES’s all the time without breaking a sweat” – I’m pretty sure he’s thinking: “honey, reading from the bible in church in front of your mother makes briefing a general seem like reading ds a story…” lol
leaner,

I’m sure you did a great job and so will your husband. Congratulations on your first time as an EME. I think you’ve set a fine example for your children.
 
This is my first time posting, so please forgive me for barging in on your thread. I have recently become a Eucharistic Minister at our church. I had some very strong reservations before accepting, but our parish priest told me that Jesus sent the apostles out to make apostles of all men. By acting as a Eucharistic minister, I would be accepting an invitation from an apostle to bring Jesus to my fellow Catholics.

Prior to my first time as a EU, I attended a ALPHA Seminar (simular to A Life in the Spirit Seminar). The graces that I received from God have helped me to become closer to Him in the Eucharist. The first time I was on the altar I was totally blown away by what I was seeing and feeling. Perhaps for the very first time in my life I realized that it was truly the Body and Blood of our Lord. To be able to give the Cup or the Body to someone and look them in the eye and say “This is the Body/Blood of Christ” is the most moving experience I have ever had.

As for giving the Body, I was terrified the first time I was handed the ciborium (sp?). But afterwards I cried because it was so moving. To actually give the Body of Christ to someone is amazing.

I hope that all Eucharistic Ministers truly have their heart and mind focused on Jesus when they are on the altar. I am so glad that I accepted the invitation from our Lord.

My prayers for you all.

Giogae
 
People do not receive a calling from God to become an EMHC (or whatever abbreviation they’re using this week) or readers, or altar servers or members of the choir or the Altar and Rosary Society. We make our own choices to engage in these things.

This is not meant to diminish people who perform these functions, but let’s keep it in perspective.
 
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AltarMan:
It’s been my personal experience that far too many people get involved in “sanctuary-based ministries” (MC, server, reader, EMHC, etc.) because they need attention. Because they need to feel “special” or “important.”
Wow! I wonder where you’ve experienced such self-serving issues? “Because they need to feel special or important”??? Oh, my. My personal experience (my own) is one of being called to serve. Liturgical ministry is very humbling …
 
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Elzee:
Our parish has well over a 100 EMHCs which is pure excess. If you rotate where you sit each week, it’s possible you could go a very long time without receiving communion from a priest (or a deacon - we have a deacon at every Mass). I would glady sit through a longer Mass so everyone could receive from a priest or deacon.
Please tell me so I understand … do you feel the Eucharist is more valid, more holy, more sacred–or what?–because you receive it from an ordinary minister? I believe the focus should be on WHO we receive and not FROM WHOM we receive!
 
Congratulations on participating in your parish as God has called you! May God richly reward your efforts.👍
 
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MaryAgnes:
Please tell me so I understand … do you feel the Eucharist is more valid, more holy, more sacred–or what?–because you receive it from an ordinary minister? I believe the focus should be on WHO we receive and not FROM WHOM we receive!
AMEN!!!
 
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AltarMan:
It’s been my personal experience that far too many people get involved in “sanctuary-based ministries” (MC, server, reader, EMHC, etc.) because they need attention. Because they need to feel “special” or “important.”
So true.
 
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MaryAgnes:
Please tell me so I understand … do you feel the Eucharist is more valid, more holy, more sacred–or what?–because you receive it from an ordinary minister? I believe the focus should be on WHO we receive and not FROM WHOM we receive!
Please understand that I do not think receiving from a priest or deacon makes the consecrated host more ‘valid or holy’. I hope I didn’t imply that. Also, during Mass I am focused on who I will be receiving, who I am receiving, and who I just received. I understand your point though, but no need to worry on that one.
But these forums are not Mass, and it’s a time where I can reflect and share my personal opinions. RS 88 (excerpt below) stresses that EMHC’s should be used when necessary. If it truly doesn’t matter in any way whatsoever, why this guideline? I personally think it matters for several reasons, but one is because I see the use of excessive numbers of EMHCs as part of a bigger problem – a blurring of the line between clergy and laity, which, in my opinion, leads to a decrease in the Catholic identify of a parish. This is my experience. Yours may be quite different. It’s kind of like an earlier thread where someone noted that a priest who only gives ‘happy homilies’ is likely to be a priest who doesn’t spend much time in the confessional. I’ve noticed this in my own parish.** There is a ripple effect to the decisions our priests make.** I’ve heard a person in charge of various ministries at our parish say he doesn’t believe in the sacrament of confession. This same person is an EMHC. I’ve also heard comments such as “I don’t get the whole ‘priest’ thing”. Or, “What does it matter if a priest gives you a blessing or someone just says ‘God Bless You’. He is no different than me.”. Well, I’m sorry. He IS different. He is an ordained man, part of the Apostolic Succession. The Pope is different too. As Jeff Cavins says *‘There is an anointing on that man. That is why when people come into his presence they are so moved because they know there is something different about him’.
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I’ll be honest. If I had to choose between receiving communion from the Pope or from an EMHC, I would choose our Holy Father. I think receiving Our Lord from the Vicar of Christ only adds to the beautiful experience of receiving Him. Some may think that signifies a lack of focus, but I don’t. Many things can add to the spiritual experience of receiving Communion - incense, beautiful music, and the demeanor of the priest during Mass. We’re human. We are impacted by our surroundings and what we see, feel, hear, and smell. God gave us the sacraments as OUTWARD signs in part, I think, so we could tangibly experience and see his grace and love at work - He knows we are human and impacted by our surroundings.

The excerpts below are from RS and Dominicae Cenae #11. I think DC #11 especially talks eloquently on why people may prefer receiving communion from a priest.

It is the priest celebrant’s responsibility to minister Communion, perhaps assisted by other priests or deacons; and he should not resume the Mass until after the Communion of the faithful is concluded. Only when there is a necessity may extraordinary ministers assist the priest celebrant in accordance with the norm of law (RS 88, emphasis added).

Dominicae Cenae #11 (last 2 paragraphs). But one must not forget the primary office of priests, who have been consecrated by their ordination to represent Christ the Priest: for this reason their hands, like their words and their will, have become the direct instruments of Christ. Through this fact, that is, as ministers of the Holy Eucharist, they have a primary responsibility for the sacred species, because it is a total responsibility: they offer the bread and wine, they consecrate it, and then distribute the sacred species to the participants in the assembly who wish to receive them. Deacons can only bring to the altar the offerings of the faithful and, once they have been consecrated by the priest, distribute them. How eloquent therefore, even if not of ancient custom, is the rite of the anointing of the hands in our Latin ordination, as though precisely for these hands a special grace and power of the Holy Spirit is necessary!

To touch the sacred species and to distribute them with their own hands is a privilege of the ordained, one which indicates an active participation in the ministry of the Eucharist. It is obvious that the Church can grant this faculty to those who are neither priests nor deacons, as is the case with acolytes in the exercise of their ministry, especially if they are destined for future ordination, or with other people who are chosen for this to meet a just need, but always after an adequate preparation.
 
a liturgical abuse. Read the GIRM. EMHCs are used as a tool by progressive to push the “laity” agenda. I don’t like it and unless there is a dire need for one during mass from now on I will be waiting until deaconate (got willing of course) before I do it again. There has been a few times thought that my priest anlong with another deacon have given me the “eye” to come up and help. We have an unspoken language with each other and I know exactly what the “eye” means.
 
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