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rstrats
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I know that scripture says that the “waving” of the first fruits is to be done on the day after the Sabbath but is there a scripture that says when the first fruits of the spring harvest become the first fruits?
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Nita
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Do you mean a particular month/day?
If so, (living here in corn country as I do
) I’d say the date when the first ears/fruits are ripe and ready for harvesting varies from year to year. It all depends on the weather.
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Nita
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Did a little more searching. The feast of the first fruits is also called the feast of Pentecost. The Jewish Pentecost was 50 days after Passover. Passover varies each year and so the feast of Pentecost/First Fruits also varies.
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Cachonga
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Lev. 23:5 - In the first month, on the fourteenth of the month, between the evenings is the Passover to Jehovah.
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rstrats
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Nita,
re: “Do you mean a particular month/day?”
No. The reason I bring this question up is that whenever someone is asked why they observe the first day of the week as a special day for worship they many times say that it is to honor the resurrection which they assert occurred on the first day. And when asked what support they have for a first day resurrection they occasionally use first fruits type/antitype for an explanation. I’m asking at what point was the Messiah considered to have become the first fruits antitype? Was it at the moment of resurrection or was it sometime later?
re: “Do you mean a particular month/day?”
No. The reason I bring this question up is that whenever someone is asked why they observe the first day of the week as a special day for worship they many times say that it is to honor the resurrection which they assert occurred on the first day. And when asked what support they have for a first day resurrection they occasionally use first fruits type/antitype for an explanation. I’m asking at what point was the Messiah considered to have become the first fruits antitype? Was it at the moment of resurrection or was it sometime later?
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Joe_Kelley
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Note that God rested on the seventh day of His Week of Creation. However, Adam was created on the sixth day. The Day of Rest was the first day of Adams week.
Just something to speculate on.
Just something to speculate on.
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rstrats
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Since it’s been awhile, perhaps someone new looking in will know of the answer.
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babs57
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1 Cor 15:20-23 “But now Christ was raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since death came through a human being, the resurrection of the dead came also through a human being. For, just as in Adam all die, so too in Christ shall all be brought to life, but each one in proper order: Christ the firstfruits; then at His coming, all who belong to Christ;”
This was after the resurrection, but the disciples were already gathering on the first day:
Acts 20:7 " On the first day of the week when we gathered to break bread, Paul spoke to them because he was going to be leaving the next day."
This was after the resurrection, but the disciples were already gathering on the first day:
Acts 20:7 " On the first day of the week when we gathered to break bread, Paul spoke to them because he was going to be leaving the next day."
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rstrats
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babs57,
So are you saying that the Messiah became the first fruits at the moment of resurrection and not when He presented Himself - equal to the waving of the sheaf - to the father later on the first day?
So are you saying that the Messiah became the first fruits at the moment of resurrection and not when He presented Himself - equal to the waving of the sheaf - to the father later on the first day?
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babs57
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I’m not sure what you mean by “presenting Himself to the Father later on the first day”. Wasn’t the Resurrection on the first day? Why couldn’t the Resurrection itself be the “waving of the sheaf”? I guess I’m a little confused by your question.
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mercytruth
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This day is also known within Judaism as the first day of the counting of the Omer. This is the manner in which even today that we count the days leading up to Pentecost. In Judaism Pentecost is known as Shavuot.
Today in Judaism, the first day of the counting of the omer, (the waving of the firstfruits usually of the spring barley harvest) begins on the second day of Passover week. The ‘Sabbath’ mentioned in Leviticus 23:15 is interpreted as meaning the day after Passover, since the first day of Passover week and the eighth day of Passover week are holy days when no work was to be performed.
The Sadducees in the days of Jesus considered the "Sabbath’ to be the weekly Sabbath within Passover week. Thus, the morning after Sabbath in the gospel accounts would be considered Sunday morning. The apostle Paul refers to Jesus as the firstfruits from the dead. (1 Corinth.15:20)
So the first day of the counting of Omer for the Church would be Resurrection Sunday morning. Fifty days later is the celebration of Pentecost, or Shavuot. The first Pentecost, or Shavuot in Jewish history occurred approximately fifty days after they crossed the Red Sea and were given the 10 commandments orally from Mt.Sinai. So, one can see the connection between the giving of oral commandments on Shavuot at Mt. Sinai, and the ten commandments that are written on the tablets of our hearts by impartation of the Holy Spirit.
Today, the Karaite Jews consider the weekly ‘Sabbath’ to be the one that is mentioned in Leviticus 23:15.
jewfaq.org/holidayb.htm
God’s peace
micah
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