First Muslim elected to U.S. Congress!

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Hey Bry! You do have to be careful how you write here. Even some of our most pious Catholics here will nick pick a sentence. It seems that some are more concerned about nick picking a paragraph then trying to understand the context.
 
JoeyWarren said:
Hey Bry! You do have to be careful how you write here. Even some of our most pious Catholics here will nick pick a sentence. It seems that some are more concerned about nick picking a paragraph then trying to understand the context.
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It’s nit picking. not nick picking.
 
pro_universal said:
Keith became Muslim during a time when racism was rampant in the Christian community, and “muslims” like Louis Farrakhan offered an alternative that didn’t involve that.
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The rest of your statement I can agree with, but Louis Farrakhan offering an alternative that didn’t involve racism?!?!?!?

Please!!!
 
pro_universal said:
This is the same kind of trash that people said about JFK when he was running for president. “LOOK! It’s a PAPIST TRICK TO TAKE OVER AMERICA!” and so on.
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Comparing JFK and Keith Elisson is like comparing apples and oranges. The former was presidential election, while the latter was parliamentary election!

JFK was an evangelical Christian and so he won. His enemies who tried claiming it was a Vatican conspiracy to rule the U.S. of A were Muslims hoping to divide Christians!
 
Booklover said:
Islam is incompatible with our way of life! Wait till more of them get elected and they start wanting sharia law declared in this country! Islam is an imperialistic cult that has never progressed beyond the 7th century
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First compare Islam to Nazism, then compare Muhammad to Adolf Hitler. Both these two personalities have a very similar character. This is the reason why I left Islam.
Booklover said:
Do you want a country where people’s hands are cut off because of stealing?
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No, since Bible says the maximum penalty for stealing is 6 years jail.
Booklover said:
Where people who commit adultery are stoned to death?
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Jesus our Lord forbid stoning a person to death for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Booklover said:
Where people are whipped for having an alcoholic drink?
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Nowhere in the Bible does it say consuming alcoholic drinks in moderation is wrong.
Booklover said:
Where women are forced to dress in “Islamic style”?
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Here I disagree with you. Does not our Lady, ever-virgin Mary the Theotokos also dress “Islamic style”? St Helena, mother of Constantine the Great and St Monica, mother of St Augustine of Hippo are excellent examples of pious Christian women. Certainly, Christian women should not dress like Britney Spears or Madonna who are really disgusting!
Booklover said:
Where only Islamic music is allowed and TV is forbidden?
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Islamic “music” is reciting the Quran and performing Solat 5 times a day. Its certainly not music in the Western sense of the word.
 
From Murtad – Here I disagree with you. Does not our Lady, ever-virgin Mary the Theotokos also dress “Islamic style”? St Helena, mother of Constantine the Great and St Monica, mother of St Augustine of Hippo are excellent examples of pious Christian women. Certainly, Christian women should not dress like Britney Spears or Madonna who are really disgusting!

A woman doesn’t have to be wrapped up like a package to be modestly dressed. Much of today’s fashion is vulgar, but I can and do dress like a modest lady, and I’m not the only one to do so. Dressing in robes today would be calling attention to yourself, not a sign of modestly.
 
daeve said:
From Murtad – Here I disagree with you. Does not our Lady, ever-virgin Mary the Theotokos also dress “Islamic style”? St Helena, mother of Constantine the Great and St Monica, mother of St Augustine of Hippo are excellent examples of pious Christian women. Certainly, Christian women should not dress like Britney Spears or Madonna who are really disgusting!

A woman doesn’t have to be wrapped up like a package to be modestly dressed. Much of today’s fashion is vulgar, but I can and do dress like a modest lady, and I’m not the only one to do so.
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Exactly! I do the same. Thanks for putting it so well.
Dressing in robes today would be calling attention to yourself, not a sign of modestly.
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Again, correct!

Vickie 🙂
 
Booklover said:
WASHINGTON, Nov. 8 - Keith Ellison, a convert to Islam and Democrat from Minneapolis, on Tuesday (Nov. 7) became the first Muslim to be elected to Congress.

Ellison, 43, beat two other candidates to take Minnesota’s 5th Congressional District seat in the U.S. House of Representatives.
Ellison received 56 percent of the vote.

“We received a lot of Muslim support because I think it’s natural for people to want to see themselves reflected in the government of our society,” Ellison said Wednesday. “My election offers them the ability to be much more involved in the government of our society and I think that’s a good thing.”

U.S. Muslim groups cheered Ellison’s historic election and said they hope it means their voices will be heard in the halls of power.

“(This is) certainly a historic event, and it speaks to the better part of America,” said Mahdi Bray, executive director of the Muslim American Society, which sought to mobilize U.S. Muslims to vote in the midterm elections.

**The Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr., who campaigned for Ellison, said Ellison’s principles appeal to people of all faiths and “that’s why he won and why he deserved to win.” **

“**Keith’s religion informs his values, (but) America’s interest informs his vote,” Jackson said. **

news.faithfreedom.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=662

All I can say is, may God have mercy on us all! This is part of their infiltration.

Wake up, America!
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Amen
 
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        [<img alt="" align="right" border="0" hspace="6">](http://emailoffers.store.afa.net/a/jgroup/bg_store-afanet_afaso-1004-2-bp_276.html)**What book will America base it's values on, the Bible or the Koran?**
        

                   [TownHall.com](http://www.townhall.com/) column by Dennis Prager, who is a Jew.
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By Dennis Prager - Tuesday, November 28, 2006

Keith Ellison, D-Minn., the first Muslim elected to the United States Congress, has announced that he will not take his oath of office on the Bible, but on the bible of Islam, the Koran.

Click on the TownHall.com column for the full text.

What do you think?
 
Where women are forced to dress in “Islamic style”?
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Yes but when Nuns cover theirselves modestly that is to show their faith.
I am not ashamed in the least to be anti-Muslim.
The traditional Christians of old were as rabid as I am in opposing the Infidel, if not more so.
I am sick of people apologizing for the Holy Crusades. I would love to see the Islamic faith erased from the earth once and for all.
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Yes and Jesus said to love your enemies and look at you, you want to wipe Muslims off of the planet.
 
sandmountainsli said:
I am not ashamed in the least to be anti-Muslim.
The traditional Christians of old were as rabid as I am in opposing the Infidel, if not more so.
I am sick of people apologizing for the Holy Crusades.
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There is nothing for a Christian to apologize for in regard to the Crusades. The rape, pillage, and plunder of the Crusades was done entirely outside of the Christianity of God’s Holy Word. The Crusades were as unsupportable by scripture back then, as they would be today.

Islamic murder of Christians and Jews for the last 1300 years however, was and is, perfectly consistent with the teaching of the Quran. The Muslims that are blowing things up are the ones that get Islam. These aren’t fringe elements. These are governments and peoples.
sandmountainsli said:
I would love to see the Islamic faith erased from the earth once and for all.
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But this will only be accomplished by changing hearts. I believe that the false eschatologies of the 20th century were responsible for the failure of the Church in not having won more Muslims for Christ before the Islamic beast was healed. Christians were blinded to the central role of Islam in prophecy. As a result, today 1.5 billion people may well be on the road to perdition.
sandmountainsli said:
I suppose that shall not happen until Our Lord returns.
I can’t add much more to that.
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This is Islamic fundamentalism. Mohammed began the 152 years of first Jihad just 13 years after founding Islam. It can’t get much more fundamental than that.

Power of the Sword

623 - Battle of Waddan
623 - Battle of Safwan
623 - Battle of Dul-Ashir
624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.
624 - Zakat becomes mandatory
624 - Battle of Badr
624 - Battle of Bani Salim
624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr
624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa
624 - Battle of Sawiq
624 - Battle of Ghatfan
624 - Battle of Bahran
625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.
625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad
625 - Battle of Banu Nudair
625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa
626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra
626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal
626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah
627 - Battle of the Trench
627 - Battle of Ahzab
627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza
627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan
627 - Battle of Ghaiba
627 - Battle of Khaibar
628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.
630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.
630 - Battle of Hunsin.
630 - Battle of Tabuk
632 - Muhammad dies.
632 - Abu-Bakr, Muhammads father-in-law, along with Umar, begin a military move to enforce Islam in Arabia.
633 - Battle at Oman
633 - Battle at Hadramaut.
633 - Battle of Kazima
633 - Battle of Walaja
633 - Battle of Ulleis
633 - Battle of Anbar
634 - Battle of Basra,
634 - Battle of Damascus
634 - Battle of Ajnadin.
634 - Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph.
634 - Battle of Namaraq
634 - Battle of Saqatia.
635 - Battle of Bridge.
635 - Battle of Buwaib.
635 - Conquest of Damascus.
635 - Battle of Fahl.
636 - Battle of Yermuk.
636 - Battle of Qadsiyia.
636 - Conquest of Madain.
637 - Battle of Jalula.
638 - Battle of Yarmouk.
638 - The Muslims defeat the Romans and enter Jerusalem.
638 - Conquest of Jazirah.
639 - Conquest of Khuizistan and movement into Egypt.
641 - Battle of Nihawand
642 - Battle of Ray in Persia
643 - Conquest of Azarbaijan
644 - Conquest of Fars
644 - Conquest of Kharan.
644 - Umar is murdered. Othman becomes the Caliph.
647 - Conquest of the island of Cypress
644 - Uman dies and is succeeded by Caliph Uthman.
648 - Campaign against the Byzantines.
651 - Naval battle against the Byzantines.
654 - Islam spreads into North Africa
656 - Uthman is murdered. Ali become Caliph.
658 - Battle of Nahrawan.
659 - Conquest of Egypt
661 - Ali is murdered.
662 - Egypt falls to Islam rule.
666 - Sicily is attacked by Muslims
677 - Siege of Constantinople
687 - Battle of Kufa
691 - Battle of Deir ul Jaliq
700 - Sufism takes root as a sect of Islam
700 - Military campaigns in North Africa
702 - Battle of Deir ul Jamira
711 - Muslims invade Gibraltar
711 - Conquest of Spain
713 - Conquest of Multan
716 - Invasion of Constantinople
732 - Battle of Tours in France.
740 - Battle of the Nobles.
741 - Battle of Bagdoura in North Africa
744 - Battle of Ain al Jurr.
746 - Battle of Rupar Thutha
748 - Battle of Rayy.
749 - Battle of lsfahan
749 - Battle of Nihawand
750 - Battle of Zab
772 - Battle of Janbi in North Africa
777 - Battle of Saragossa in Spain
 
JohnWilliams said:
There is nothing for a Christian to apologize for in regard to the Crusades. The rape, pillage, and plunder of the Crusades was done entirely outside of the Christianity of God’s Holy Word. The Crusades were as unsupportable by scripture back then, as they would be today.

Islamic murder of Christians and Jews for the last 1300 years however, was and is, perfectly consistent with the teaching of the Quran. The Muslims that are blowing things up are the ones that get Islam. These aren’t fringe elements. These are governments and peoples.
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Were the crusades an example of “fringe elements”? i don’t think so. You can say today that the raping, pillaging, etc was done outside the Church but you can be sure those people believed they were doing God’s work with the Church’s blessing. And I am not willing to believe the Church was unaware of what its calls for a crusade would result in. There’s a lot of apologists today that like to say our understanding of the Crusades is a result of revisionist history, but I think that to try to absolve the Church from repsonsibitliy for the atrocities that were committed is the real attempt to revise history.

No one has a problem with crediting the Church for the great things that were done in its name. But I don’t think you can remove the Church for the atrocities that were committed in its name.
 
Valke2 said:
. You can say today that the raping, pillaging, etc was done outside the Church but you can be sure those people believed they were doing God’s work with the Church’s blessing.
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I don’t think the people that raped believed they were doing God’s work… And I most certainly don’t think the Church condoned such actions!
 
Valke2 said:
Were the crusades an example of “fringe elements”? i don’t think so. You can say today that the raping, pillaging, etc was done outside the Church but you can be sure those people believed they were doing God’s work with the Church’s blessing. And I am not willing to believe the Church was unaware of what its calls for a crusade would result in. There’s a lot of apologists today that like to say our understanding of the Crusades is a result of revisionist history, but I think that to try to absolve the Church from repsonsibitliy
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The last thing I intended to do was absolve the “Church” from responsibility. I was absolving the truth of God’s Holy Word, and Christianity, from responsibility. False doctrine is the biggest enemy of the Church. That’s what Revelation Chapter 2 is about. You won’t find Satan at an atheist convention. They are already in his back pocket. You can look for Satan square in the middle of the Church, doing his best to cart of Jesus goods.
Valke2 said:
for the atrocities that were committed is the real attempt to revise history.

No one has a problem with crediting the Church for the great things that were done in its name. But I don’t think you can remove the Church for the atrocities that were committed in its name.
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The “Church” was guilty as you charge. NOT THE TRUTH OF CHRISTIANITY PER GOD’S HOLY WORD. The rapers, pillagers, and plunderers of the Crusades were no more Christian, than are much of whom call themselves Christians today.

The Muslims who have done the same as the Crusaders, for over 1300 years, are following the Quran. Rape and enslaving of women into harems is an acceptable part of Jihad.
 
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