First N.O - advice

[JRKH]

**The church obviously doesn’t give communion on the tongue. **That’s one reason why I don’t recommend being the only person to receive on the tongue, unless it is a familiar church, of course. It’s very embarrassing if these situations arise.

If you intend to return to that parish you should contact the priest, apologise for any disruption caused, but explain that it was your understanding that both options were available. How to take it from there depends on what sort of reply you receive.

Is it even permissable for a Church to disallow recieving on the tongue? I never heard of such a thing.

James

 

[brotherhrolf]

Am I? Why do you think the new edict has been such a yawn? Because the majority are fine with the NO, making it the majority rite.

Having gone through the transition from the TLM to the NO when I was a teenager in high school, I can assure you that there were large numbers of people who were not happy with it. We were told that that was the way things were going to be and we were reminded of our obligations to the magisterium of HMC. To say that the majority are fine with the NO may not be exactly correct. Many, many of us did not go gentle into that good night.

Unless I miss my guess, there are large numbers of us who are 50 and older who are not dead yet. The transition to the NO was quite abrupt. One Sunday we used the organ and sang traditional hymns like “To Jesus Christ Our Sovereign King” and the next it was out with the guitars and “Sons of God, Hear His Holy Word” (a most un-PC hymn today). My geographical parish church is 5 miles from my house. I have driven 25 miles for over 25 years to attend a reverent NO parish. I’m not the only one. We went from 200 individual parishoners in 1983 to over 2,500 registered families today. We must be doing something right - including singing traditional Catholic hymns, Gregorian Chant, and Latin motets. But, what is one to do when one’s bishop puts the damper on things and merely “acknowledges” the Motu Proprio. We’ve got the choir, we’ve got the people, but we can’t pin our pastor down because he is obviously concerned about the bishop.

You might say it has been a yawn, but I believe that there is still a deep seated longing in my generation for a return to the reverence we knew as children. Don’t count us out.

 

[JRKH]

Brotherhrolf,
Very well put.
This is the main thing that we need to communciate to “The Masses” of Catholics. There is no comparison between what happended in '64-'65 and what is happening now.

Then it was - Here it is, get use to it!!
Now it’s, "Oh wait, we have to study this more…yada yada yada…

The TLM is the elder brother of the N.O. and should be respected and celebrated as such. It should not be buried.

James

Having gone through the transition from the TLM to the NO when I was a teenager in high school, I can assure you that there were large numbers of people who were not happy with it. We were told that that was the way things were going to be and we were reminded of our obligations to the magisterium of HMC. To say that the majority are fine with the NO may not be exactly correct. Many, many of us did not go gentle into that good night.

Unless I miss my guess, there are large numbers of us who are 50 and older who are not dead yet. The transition to the NO was quite abrupt. One Sunday we used the organ and sang traditional hymns like “To Jesus Christ Our Sovereign King” and the next it was out with the guitars and “Sons of God, Hear His Holy Word” (a most un-PC hymn today). My geographical parish church is 5 miles from my house. I have driven 25 miles for over 25 years to attend a reverent NO parish. I’m not the only one. We went from 200 individual parishoners in 1983 to over 2,500 registered families today. We must be doing something right - including singing traditional Catholic hymns, Gregorian Chant, and Latin motets. But, what is one to do when one’s bishop puts the damper on things and merely “acknowledges” the Motu Proprio. We’ve got the choir, we’ve got the people, but we can’t pin our pastor down because he is obviously concerned about the bishop.

You might say it has been a yawn, but I believe that there is still a deep seated longing in my generation for a return to the reverence we knew as children. Don’t count us out.

 

[THurifer2]

Having gone through the transition from the TLM to the NO when I was a teenager in high school, I can assure you that there were large numbers of people who were not happy with it. We were told that that was the way things were going to be and we were reminded of our obligations to the magisterium of HMC. To say that the majority are fine with the NO may not be exactly correct. Many, many of us did not go gentle into that good night.

Unless I miss my guess, there are large numbers of us who are 50 and older who are not dead yet. The transition to the NO was quite abrupt. One Sunday we used the organ and sang traditional hymns like “To Jesus Christ Our Sovereign King” and the next it was out with the guitars and “Sons of God, Hear His Holy Word” (a most un-PC hymn today). My geographical parish church is 5 miles from my house. I have driven 25 miles for over 25 years to attend a reverent NO parish. I’m not the only one. We went from 200 individual parishoners in 1983 to over 2,500 registered families today. We must be doing something right - including singing traditional Catholic hymns, Gregorian Chant, and Latin motets. But, what is one to do when one’s bishop puts the damper on things and merely “acknowledges” the Motu Proprio. We’ve got the choir, we’ve got the people, but we can’t pin our pastor down because he is obviously concerned about the bishop.

You might say it has been a yawn, but I believe that there is still a deep seated longing in my generation for a return to the reverence we knew as children. Don’t count us out.

AMEN and Hallelujah!!! As a Gen Xer I aint gonna count you out…We need you guys to show us the ropes!!!

 

[palmas85]

Having gone through the transition from the TLM to the NO when I was a teenager in high school, I can assure you that there were large numbers of people who were not happy with it. We were told that that was the way things were going to be and we were reminded of our obligations to the magisterium of HMC. To say that the majority are fine with the NO may not be exactly correct. Many, many of us did not go gentle into that good night.

Unless I miss my guess, there are large numbers of us who are 50 and older who are not dead yet. The transition to the NO was quite abrupt. One Sunday we used the organ and sang traditional hymns like “To Jesus Christ Our Sovereign King” and the next it was out with the guitars and “Sons of God, Hear His Holy Word” (a most un-PC hymn today). My geographical parish church is 5 miles from my house. I have driven 25 miles for over 25 years to attend a reverent NO parish. I’m not the only one. We went from 200 individual parishoners in 1983 to over 2,500 registered families today. We must be doing something right - including singing traditional Catholic hymns, Gregorian Chant, and Latin motets. But, what is one to do when one’s bishop puts the damper on things and merely “acknowledges” the Motu Proprio. We’ve got the choir, we’ve got the people, but we can’t pin our pastor down because he is obviously concerned about the bishop.

You might say it has been a yawn, but I believe that there is still a deep seated longing in my generation for a return to the reverence we knew as children. Don’t count us out.

I second that Brother Rolf

 

[BobP123]

My interpretation of what Bob was saying is that he was advising the OP that if he is so distracted and uncomfortable being in a new setting, that he probably wouldn’t have the proper disposition to receive Holy Communion . My, how we see things differently! Why does it always have to be about Pharisees??

Yep, exactly.

Last I checked the Church required one to receive Holy Communion once during the Easter season.

I think that was because traditionally most Catholics thought themselves unworthy of receiving at all, much less making a political, defiant, sacriligeous, and popular game of it.

And then they wonder why Catholics don’t believe in the Real Presence anymore.

 

[paramedicgirl]

Yep, exactly.

Last I checked the Church required one to receive Holy Communion once during the Easter season.

I think that was because traditionally most Catholics thought themselves unworthy of receiving at all, much less making a political and popular game of it.

And then they wonder why Catholics don’t believe in the Real Presence anymore.

We *are *unworthy.
Lord, I am not worthy to receive you…

 

[paramedicgirl]

Is it even permissable for a Church to disallow recieving on the tongue? I never heard of such a thing.

James

No, Catholics have the right to receive Communion on the tongue. That right cannot be denied you. It is the normative way to receive Communion. Communion in the hand is by special indult.

 

[BobP123]

No, Catholics have the right to receive Communion on the tongue. That right cannot be denied you. It is the normative way to receive Communion. Communion in the hand is by special indult.

That’s true. Problem is, however, that many are told that Vatican II made communion in the hand a common practice, implying of course that people who think otherwise are opposed to Vatican II.

 

[paramedicgirl]

That’s true. Problem is, however, that many are told that Vatican II made communion in the hand a common practice, implying of course that people who think otherwise are opposed to Vatican II.

Then they should school themselves a little better.After VII, the bishops of certain countries, yours and mine included, petitioned the Vatican for an indult for receiving Communion in the hand. Now it is up to the communicant whether they receive in the hand or on the tongue. No priest can deny someone communion on the tongue simply because he prefers everyone to receive in the hand.

 

[thiscatholickid]

It’ll be really easy. Just follow the people around you.
If the homily is boring you can spend that time pondering how to ask the pastor if he’d be willing to provide a TLM.

 

[JRKH]

Am I? Why do you think the new edict has been such a yawn? Because the majority are fine with the NO, making it the majority rite.

It’s such a yawn because the majority of BISHOPS are fine with the NO. This has nothing to do with the majority of parishioners who just go along with whatever.

If the majority of (American) Bishops at least supported the TLM as equal to the NO and truly recognized that it has to offer there would be TLM’s celebrated in most parishes by Christmas.

The Catholic Church is not a democracy where the majority rules. The faithful are taught to obey the priests and bishops in their diocese. This was the case in '64 when the change to the NO was made. There was no vote, no one asked what the parishoners thought. It was just BAM - now mass is in english and facing the people.

I do understand what you are saying about the NO being the mass most used, but your comparison is flawed.

James

 

[BobP123]

Then they should school themselves a little better.After VII, the bishops of certain countries, yours and mine included, petitioned the Vatican for an indult for receiving Communion in the hand. Now it is up to the communicant whether they receive in the hand or on the tongue. No priest can deny someone communion on the tongue simply because he prefers everyone to receive in the hand.

Actually VII didn’t mandate much, if anything, about how communion is to be received. I can see, however, how communion in the hand could easily fit some liberal/progressives’ definition of “more active participation” in the liturgy.

 

[brotherhrolf]

Vatican II did indeed not mandate much about anything about Communion. I happened to watch EWTN’s All Saint’s Day Mass last night. The celebrant was a young priest from a new order from Argentina. That was the finest consecration I have seen/heard in English in years (Rite I). And then the people going to Communion, genuflecting and receiving on the tongue. The communion rails vanished in the mid-70s. I’ve made no bones about it. I have never received in the hand and I would far prefer to kneel. EWTN used a paten last night - used up into the mid-70s.

 

[LightBound]

What do you do - bounce around from thread to thread in the TC forum and attempt to discredit what the pope validly instituted on September 14? You are the one with the problem, coach, not the traditional Catholics. Get over it.

What a rude little snot you are, paramedic girl!!