Fisher More college banned from celebrating EF

[steymard]

Father Z has a lot of updated info on the situation. Check down the page to see useful (name removed by moderator)ut from Ecclesia Dei in 2007 and from other parties:

wdtprs.com/blog/2014/03/fr-zs-first-reaction-to-bp-olson-banning-extraordinary-form-at-fort-worths-fisher-more-college/#comments

It seems like a tricky situation. I have tried to avoid all criticism of Bishop Olson’s person, and if my take on the legality of his action seemed in any way scandalous, I apologize. Here is a good take on it by a Fr. Z commenter:

Also, I find it amusing that so many are citing Canon Law on SP; does anyone really suppose that Bishop Olson has no canon lawyers of his own? I’m sure he knew that liturgical ideologues would crucify him in the blogsphere once the fact of his disciplinary action was public; isn’t it quite likely that he consulted with his own canonists before he took action? Thank God he drew courage from the graces of his office and did the right thing.

I have probably been guilty of tooting SP unnecessarily here.

Those who love the EF should understand that the EF is being used, as were good priests and people, for bad ends.

This is true and so frustrating and so sad.

Many, many, good Catholics have been devastated by Fisher More College — good Catholics who love the EF. They have all borne their crosses in silence, trying to avoid scandal. Whoever sent the Bishop’s letter to Rorate Caeli unleashed a sickening firestorm of slander and hysteria against Bishop Olson and the people who have been quiet are now in a position of having to speak out lest they become an accessory to sin. Catholic World Report is preparing an in depth report as we speak; I urge everyone to wait for the article and give Bishop Olson the benefit of any doubt, both now and after the article is made public.

I don’t think we’ve seen outright slander and hysteria on this thread in particular, but I definitely should have waited to give Bishop Olson the benefit of the doubt as I posted the thread. I guess the only thing to do is wait and pray.

 

[zab]

Father Z has a lot of updated info on the situation. Check down the page to see useful (name removed by moderator)ut from Ecclesia Dei in 2007 and from other parties:

wdtprs.com/blog/2014/03/fr-zs-first-reaction-to-bp-olson-banning-extraordinary-form-at-fort-worths-fisher-more-college/#comments

It seems like a tricky situation. I have tried to avoid all criticism of Bishop Olson’s person, and if my take on the legality of his action seemed in any way scandalous, I apologize. Here is a good take on it by a Fr. Z commenter:

I have probably been guilty of tooting SP unnecessarily here.

This is true and so frustrating and so sad.

I don’t think we’ve seen outright slander and hysteria on this thread in particular, but I definitely should have waited to give Bishop Olson the benefit of the doubt as I posted the thread. I guess the only thing to do is wait and pray.

The update from Fr. Z’s column explains a lot: wdtprs.com/blog/2014/03/fr-zs-first-reaction-to-bp-olson-banning-extraordinary-form-at-fort-worths-fisher-more-college/#comments

UPDATE:

A priest friend forwarded information from HIS priest friend in Dallas. Thus, I will edit a great deal and use bullet points. These things either happened or they didn’t and can be verified one way or another:

• In May a prof of FMC (Fisher More College) gave a talk and denied aspects of Vatican II
• The FSSP priests withdrew their services at FMC some time ago.
• Taylor Marshall, married with several children, resigned his job at FMC without another job.
• At Thanksgiving, 2013, Fr. Nicholas Gruner, the suspended Fatima Priest, said Mass at FMC.
• These things took place when the Diocese of Fort Worth was vacant.
• “This is NOT about hatred for the TLM.”

All of these points (except the last, which was an opinion) suggest dysfunction which the new bishop needed to address.

 

[johnnykins]

The update from Fr. Z’s column explains a lot: wdtprs.com/blog/2014/03/fr-zs-first-reaction-to-bp-olson-banning-extraordinary-form-at-fort-worths-fisher-more-college/#comments

UPDATE:

A priest friend forwarded information from HIS priest friend in Dallas. Thus, I will edit a great deal and use bullet points. These things either happened or they didn’t and can be verified one way or another:

• In May a prof of FMC (Fisher More College) gave a talk and denied aspects of Vatican II
• The FSSP priests withdrew their services at FMC some time ago.
• Taylor Marshall, married with several children, resigned his job at FMC without another job.
• At Thanksgiving, 2013, Fr. Nicholas Gruner, the suspended Fatima Priest, said Mass at FMC.
• These things took place when the Diocese of Fort Worth was vacant.
• “This is NOT about hatred for the TLM.”

All of these points (except the last, which was an opinion) suggest dysfunction which the new bishop needed to address.

I’ve seen Fr. Z’s blog have entries where Vatican II as distinct from the “Spirit of Vatican II” is dissed (to use the neologism) - so maybe he and similar bloggers need to consider how their own dismissal of an Ecumenical Council effects others.