FITNA.... Can you handle the TRUTH?

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This is a VERY disturbing video. These people will not scare me because I trust in the Lord that He will comfort me, I shall not fear this religion from hell.
The gates of hell will not prevail. period.
 
I watched it, i think it tells the truth about Islam.
But the movie is removed now, and the sites are down :mad:
 
You can watch it on the daily motion site as well (but you have to register to do so).

Interesting film and interview. I wouldnt call it THE truth, but it is A truth.
 
The word(s) “kill” appears 133 time(s) in 101 verse(s) in Quran in M. Khan translation.

And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. **And Al-Fitnah **is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Haram (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #191)

The word(s) “love” appears 70 time(s) in 61 verse(s) in Quran in M. Khan translation.

And spend in the Cause of Allah (i.e. Jihad of all kinds, etc.) and do not throw yourselves into destruction (by not spending your wealth in the Cause of Allah), and do good. Truly, Allah **loves **Al-Muhsinoon (the good-doers).
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #195)

Then whoever disputes with you concerning him (Iesa (Jesus)) after (all this) knowledge that has come to you, (i.e. Iesa (Jesus)) being a slave of Allah, and having no share in Divinity) say: (O Muhammad SAW) “Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves - then we pray and invoke (sincerely) the Curse of Allah upon those who lie.”
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #61)

The holy words of the koran are from that which first tempted with an apple. I wish a film be made about Mohammeds call in the “Greatest Story Ever Told” style followed by a history of Islam and how it spread to what we have today. Maybe…maybe…then might it be better understood to be an evil idology unrelated to God. The deception played upon all Moslems is true shame, but it has been played and more non-Moslems should recognize that.
 
A fitna indeed. The word fitna can mean a trial, or it can mean some kind of oppression, etc.

Uproar over anti-Islam film falls flat.

Plus explanations of the ayaat (verses) used in the film.

Nothing is proven but that some people take joy in causing trouble. (i.e., making fitna.)
 
Nothig is proven,

I can handle the truth. If its the truth. This film is the truth from the eyes of Islam haters. I can get you some truth from Christianity haters as well. That doesnt make it truth .

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The film is mere propaganda. If it causes an increase in hatred for Islam or Muslims, then sadly it has succeeded in being a fitna (trans: discord/mischief/strife) indeed.
 
Sister_Amy said:
Nothing is proven but that some people take joy in causing trouble. (i.e., making fitna.)
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meedo said:
Nothig is proven
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coral said:
The film is mere propaganda.
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Nothing is disproven and the mere propaganda is substantiated by the Koran and actions of Muslims for the past 1500 years.

Is it untrue the god of Mohammed said he wants all belief for him alone?
Is it untrue the god of Mohammed said fighting in his cause is good for you Muslims?

What is allahs cause?
The word(s) “Cause of Allah” appears 30 time(s) in 28 verse(s) in Quran in M. Khan translation.

Who believe in the Ghaib and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and spend out of what we have provided for them (i.e. give Zakat , spend on themselves, their parents, their children, their wives, etc., and also give charity to the poor and also in **Allahs Cause **- Jihad, etc.).
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #3)

Does that verse include non-muslims receiving charity? No. That would be helping the enemy of allah and that is forbidden in Islam.

Let those (believers) who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter fight in the Cause of Allah, and whoso fights in the Cause of Allah, and is killed or gets victory, We shall bestow on him a great reward.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #74)

Are you fighting in allahs cause?

And what is wrong with you that you fight not in the Cause of Allah, and for those weak, illtreated and oppressed among men, women, and children, whose cry is: “Our Lord! Rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from You one who will protect, and raise for us from You one who will help.”
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #75)

He is saying Muslims are being mistreated. Now the Muslims mistreat the dhimmi. Is that Just for allah?

March forth, whether you are light (being healthy, young and wealthy) or heavy (being ill, old and poor), strive hard with your wealth and your lives in the Cause of Allah. This is better for you, if you but knew.
( سورة التوبة , At-Taubah, Chapter #9, Verse #41)

If you but knew…what do you know?

The koran says violence in allahs cause is permitted/required to Muslims, and those who do not believe and strive against allahs cause have forefitted their human rights and Muslims can kill them where they find them.

Do any of you deny this?

Why should non-Muslims embrace Islam when Islam will not embrace non-Muslims but has many verses calling for their destruction of all non-Muslims?

If the Cause of Allah is not a open declared war on all non-Muslims to force submission to accept allah and his messanger, Mohammed…what is it?
 
I really don’t think people here realize the seriousness of Islam and how hatred is described in the Koran.
It is expected of all Christians to ‘love thy neighbor’. Therefore people will ‘overlook’ the terrible things that come from Islam, and try to sugarcoat it.
Wake up people and smell the holy war that is going on now…
 
There is no holy war in Islam. Muslims don’t believe in a holy war. They are only allowed to fight so that people have the freedom of religion. If people aren’t fighting them, then the Muslims have to respect them and be nice to them.

What films like this one really prove to me is that Islam is a very powerful truth, and that Islam is successful in bringing people to God’s path. If that weren’t the case, if Islam weren’t so successful, then people would have no need to fear it, and attack it.
 
Sister_Amy said:
There is no holy war in Islam. Muslims don’t believe in a holy war. They are only allowed to fight so that people have the freedom of religion. If people aren’t fighting them, then the Muslims have to respect them and be nice to them.

What films like this one really prove to me is that Islam is a very powerful truth, and that Islam is successful in bringing people to God’s path. If that weren’t the case, if Islam weren’t so successful, then people would have no need to fear it, and attack it.
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But Islam is FAR from successful (as you put it). It is FEAR that is bringing people to God’s path (not my God).
Sorry to say, but Islam will never conquer the world, ever. And there certainly is a holy war going on right as we speak. Look at the killings going on in certain countries, where Muslim are killing Christians…and you don’t think there is a holy war going on??
But Islam will not prevail.
 
Sister_Amy said:
There is no holy war in Islam. Muslims don’t believe in a holy war. They are only allowed to fight so that people have the freedom of religion. If people aren’t fighting them, then the Muslims have to respect them and be nice to them.

What films like this one really prove to me is that Islam is a very powerful truth, and that Islam is successful in bringing people to God’s path. If that weren’t the case, if Islam weren’t so successful, then people would have no need to fear it, and attack it.
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Power does not imply truth. People can feel the need to attack powerful truth, and people can feel the need to attack powerful falsehood. People attacking Islam doesn’t imply that it is true or false at all.
 
I’d like to ask Mr. Shinobi, what are your purposes in showing these constant Islamic movies? We already know what’s going on, at least I do. Why make people nervous, ones who have no faith in Christ thinking Islam will prevail?
 
Sister_Amy said:
There is no holy war in Islam. Muslims don’t believe in a holy war. They are only allowed to fight so that people have the freedom of religion. If people aren’t fighting them, then the Muslims have to respect them and be nice to them.

What films like this one really prove to me is that Islam is a very powerful truth, and that Islam is successful in bringing people to God’s path. If that weren’t the case, if Islam weren’t so successful, then people would have no need to fear it, and attack it.
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If I had the spare time, I could easily assemble a 20 minute film which would be the anti-Christian/Jewish version of FITNA. It’d feature a spooky voice-over reading verses from the Bible and Talmud (there’s plenty of ultraviolence in those books, to choose from) taken completely out of context. This would run atop various gruesome images I could pilfer from the evening news, featuring the brutality that goes on every day in Israel/Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan, where people are shot down dead on a regular basis, where various apartheid walls are being built, and where nice Christians and Jews are torturing, raping and murdering Muslims in places like Abu Ghraib prison.

It’d be pretty easy to make a nonsensical propaganda film that would demonize all Christians and Jews, making them look like barbaric and uncivilized looney tunes who no one should trust.

Most amazingly: I don’t imagine it’d be too difficult to make a more convincing film than this hateful, incompetent piece of trash which seems to have impressed a handful of credulous folks on this thread.

Anyone want to give it a shot?
 
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