Flat Earth Society

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They look good but not what I had in mind.

So I did a search on “flat fig cookies” and found this.

That looks closer but they are raison.

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Well, goll-ee. I thought those were all Photoshoped in NASA’s back room!
 
0Scarlett_nidiyilii said:
To add to that, the “experts” are sometimes revealed to be wrong.
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That’s a terrible justification for rejecting current scientific consensus. Just because someone is wrong about X doesn’t mean that they, or another person entirely, are about Y. Furthermore, just because someone gets part of X wrong doesn’t mean that they, or another person entirely, got the whole of X wrong or that X, in general, is wrong.

Granted, mistakes and lies of the past should generate a degree of healthy skepticism, and scientists themselves (should) possess that. Things like peer review and recognizing limitations of a study flow from that healthy skepticism. But in a scientific, or just academic sense, there is still an adherence to rigor. You study and understand the literature. You raise questions about methodology and test what you believe to be a better methodology. You may even run another person’s experiment to see if you can reproduce their results. You understand where gaps lie and how those gaps may affect common knowledge as we fill them, but you don’t necessarily see them as reasons to reject what seems established.

Groups like flat earthers, climate change deniers, and six-day creationists don’t uphold any of that. Heck, if it weren’t for the fact that they very often have political and/or religious motivations behind their skepticism, they would appear skeptical for skepticism’s sake. They often don’t understand the literature. They treat gaps in knowledge as reasons to reject what is tested. They concoct theories of grand conspiracies from the scientific community. If anything, academic rigor seems to be disregarded entirely in favor of attacking those holding to it with the ad hominem of, “They’re just biased!”

And again, this isn’t to say that we just blindly accept everything, but if we’re going to reject something, we should have far better reason for doing so than is often embraced by some of these groups.
 
StephieNorthCo said:
Well, goll-ee. I thought those were all Photoshoped in NASA’s back room!
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It’s a little known fact that all “photos” of Earth are actually artist renderings of what they think Earth looks like. Just take my word for it. No need for me to support that claim.
 
Augggh I can’t beleive I’m playing devils advocate for this (I’m pro-vaccine, not a young earth creationist and I believe I have seen the weather patterns change in my lil corner of the world since I was a kid).

But here’s the thing—most people aren’t scientists. They don’t have time to read every article that gets published. Maybe they’ve been burned badly in the past with “current scientific consensus”.
My point is they’re not necessarily stupid and crazy , just scared.

But I still maintain that flat-earthers are just in it for the lulz 😂
 
0Scarlett_nidiyilii said:
But here’s the thing—most people aren’t scientists.
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I mean, that’s why one listens to what scientists are saying. Granted, a lot of it now gets filtered through the equally unscientific media, which can create problems, but it’s generally a good idea to listen to those who know what they’re talking about when you don’t.
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My point is they’re not necessarily stupid and crazy , just scared.
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I view it less stupid and crazy and more pride and arrogance. Maybe there’s some fear too, but that can often go alongside pride and arrogance.
 
There was a raisin cookie like that growing up. I’ve been looking and looking and looking for it…😞
 
I think you have it wrong. Triangle!!

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I listen to flat earth videos for entertainment, mostly. But it has roused a few questions in my mind. For instance, I have personally tested the issue of the curvature of the earth. I was out on a bay with a telescope less than a foot from the water surface. 4.3 miles away, I could see the bottom of a small boat (where it touched the water) which should have been hidden under 12 feet of water. Globe earthers say you can’t do that. I can’t explain it. I just observed it.
 
Facts are why I don’t fall for all that stupidity.
 
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Lemuel said:
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0Scarlett_nidiyilii:
I’m pro-vaccine
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Very much anti-vaccine, here!
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I wish there was an in betweeen. Where we could acknowledge how emotionally hard it is to sign paperwork that says your kid might die from this shot and hold them down while they cry and say those feelings don’t make someone an antivaxxer. Where it was ok to question how many shots we give all at once to small babies not knowing if they have any of the food allergies that would prohibit it, without being written off as ani- science or anti-vaccine. It’s a messy world out there.
 
The in between is having the freedom to choose. I’m grateful that we still have that. We just mind our own businesses.
 
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