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"FLEECED AGAIN"

As if the Catholics in the United States of America haven’t been fleeced enough (I guess that word is appropriate for “sheep”) and unknowingly supported groups through Church collections in the US that help people invade our country through Latin America, here is another one that needs close scrutiny.

While rushing to Church this morning, I was running around trying to find my weekly envelope. We now receive 2 months worth of offering envelopes in the mail to save on cost or something.

Once I discovered the envelopes, I pulled them out of the main envelope looking for today’s collection when I discovered one I missed from last week. It was entitled, “Collection for the Church in Latin America”.

With a population of less than 8 1/2 % of the world’s population, Latin America seems to get the majority of the funds from the Catholic Church whenever the plate is passed. I, being an American Catholic, am tired of sponsoring these people who have been walking into the US and taking anything they can get their hands on and making Americans feel guilty about their overpopulated, drug smuggling, and money laundering countries.

I have constantly shown that the typical Latin American country is, though not perfect, far from impoverished as you might think. Those funds could be better spent in helping the American poor who live on the streets of the US and is OUR RESPONCIBILITY or sent to Africa, a continent of tremendous poverty.

In the download of “Collection for the Church in Latin America” 2007 Annual Report, on booklet page 30, under Mexico, the Catholic Population is listed as 122,211,000. That is more than the actual population of Mexico which is around 110 million to date. Even the over estimates of the Catholic population in Mexico as being 85% of its total is ridiculous when you consider the low Church attendance in those neighborhoods in the US.

In just flipping through some of the pages, I have either found convenient misprints or down right lies.

Here it is:

usccb.org/latinamerica/

or

usccb.org/latinamerica/2009/pdf_files/LAC%20AR.pdf

Here is a page of projects to explain where the money went but it is in Spanish. I wonder why there is no translation into English. The collection envelope was in English!

usccb.org/latinamerica/Projects_List_November2008.pdf

I have yet to sit down and read this mess cover to cover, but I suggest that all Americans hold their Church accountable for these violations of trust. I would think that enough Latin Americans have been caught using the Catholic Church on both sides of the border, for other than religious purposes that a full investigation is in order.
 
You have so much hate for your brothers Bradley. I will pray for you.
 
"FLEECED AGAIN"

As if the Catholics in the United States of America haven’t been fleeced enough (I guess that word is appropriate for “sheep”) and unknowingly supported groups through Church collections in the US that help people invade our country through Latin America, here is another one that needs close scrutiny.

While rushing to Church this morning, I was running around trying to find my weekly envelope. We now receive 2 months worth of offering envelopes in the mail to save on cost or something.

Once I discovered the envelopes, I pulled them out of the main envelope looking for today’s collection when I discovered one I missed from last week. It was entitled, “Collection for the Church in Latin America”.

With a population of less than 8 1/2 % of the world’s population, Latin America seems to get the majority of the funds from the Catholic Church whenever the plate is passed. I, being an American Catholic, am tired of sponsoring these people who have been walking into the US and taking anything they can get their hands on and making Americans feel guilty about their overpopulated, drug smuggling, and money laundering countries.

I have constantly shown that the typical Latin American country is, though not perfect, far from impoverished as you might think. Those funds could be better spent in helping the American poor who live on the streets of the US and is OUR RESPONCIBILITY or sent to Africa, a continent of tremendous poverty.

In the download of “Collection for the Church in Latin America” 2007 Annual Report, on booklet page 30, under Mexico, the Catholic Population is listed as 122,211,000. That is more than the actual population of Mexico which is around 110 million to date. Even the over estimates of the Catholic population in Mexico as being 85% of its total is ridiculous when you consider the low Church attendance in those neighborhoods in the US.

In just flipping through some of the pages, I have either found convenient misprints or down right lies.

Here it is:

usccb.org/latinamerica/

or

usccb.org/latinamerica/2009/pdf_files/LAC%20AR.pdf

Here is a page of projects to explain where the money went but it is in Spanish. I wonder why there is no translation into English. The collection envelope was in English!

usccb.org/latinamerica/Projects_List_November2008.pdf

I have yet to sit down and read this mess cover to cover, but I suggest that all Americans hold their Church accountable for these violations of trust. I would think that enough Latin Americans have been caught using the Catholic Church on both sides of the border, for other than religious purposes that a full investigation is in order.
Thank you! I also believe that the CC should not get involved in our border problems. Does the CC not know what would happen if we cross the border into Mexico illegally? I am not at all against Mexicans coming to our country…LEGALLY! I do not wish my hard earned dollars to go anywhere but where I wish. I label my weekly envelopes, “Church maintenance”, “Priest retirement”, “Catholic Charities”, etc. I know that the CC is used and abused by those simply wanting a handout. When they use up their welcome in our church, they move on to another and another. I give to the local mission (not Catholic) who feeds, provides a bed and medical attention for the homeless. When I want to know how my money is spent, I just drive by the mission and see for myself.

Love and prayers,

Mom of 5
 
Thank you! I also believe that the CC should not get involved in our border problems. Does the CC not know what would happen if we cross the border into Mexico illegally? I am not at all against Mexicans coming to our country…LEGALLY! I do not wish my hard earned dollars to go anywhere but where I wish. I label my weekly envelopes, “Church maintenance”, “Priest retirement”, “Catholic Charities”, etc. I know that the CC is used and abused by those simply wanting a handout. When they use up their welcome in our church, they move on to another and another. I give to the local mission (not Catholic) who feeds, provides a bed and medical attention for the homeless. When I want to know how my money is spent, I just drive by the mission and see for myself.

Love and prayers,

Mom of 5
That sounds like good advice.

I was talking to a few people at my Church today and they brought up the subject of how hard it is to find a job listing near us that doesn’t say “Must be Bi-Lingual”. But I have yet to see one that says,“Must be American and be able to prove it.”

Good Luck with those kids!
 
Bullfighter/truthsavesu/whatever/4gBradley:

I don’t know what to say to you other than to plead with you to actually listen to the Gospel when you go the Mass, and ask the Holy Spirit to transform you.

I’m not going to participate in your hate filled threads.
 
"FLEECED AGAIN"

As if the Catholics in the United States of America haven’t been fleeced enough (I guess that word is appropriate for “sheep”) and unknowingly supported groups through Church collections in the US that help people invade our country through Latin America, here is another one that needs close scrutiny.

While rushing to Church this morning, I was running around trying to find my weekly envelope. We now receive 2 months worth of offering envelopes in the mail to save on cost or something.

Once I discovered the envelopes, I pulled them out of the main envelope looking for today’s collection when I discovered one I missed from last week. It was entitled, “Collection for the Church in Latin America”.

With a population of less than 8 1/2 % of the world’s population, Latin America seems to get the majority of the funds from the Catholic Church whenever the plate is passed. I, being an American Catholic, am tired of sponsoring these people who have been walking into the US and taking anything they can get their hands on and making Americans feel guilty about their overpopulated, drug smuggling, and money laundering countries.

I have constantly shown that the typical Latin American country is, though not perfect, far from impoverished as you might think. Those funds could be better spent in helping the American poor who live on the streets of the US and is OUR RESPONCIBILITY or sent to Africa, a continent of tremendous poverty.

In the download of “Collection for the Church in Latin America” 2007 Annual Report, on booklet page 30, under Mexico, the Catholic Population is listed as 122,211,000. That is more than the actual population of Mexico which is around 110 million to date. Even the over estimates of the Catholic population in Mexico as being 85% of its total is ridiculous when you consider the low Church attendance in those neighborhoods in the US.

In just flipping through some of the pages, I have either found convenient misprints or down right lies.

Here it is:

usccb.org/latinamerica/

or

usccb.org/latinamerica/2009/pdf_files/LAC%20AR.pdf

Here is a page of projects to explain where the money went but it is in Spanish. I wonder why there is no translation into English. The collection envelope was in English!

usccb.org/latinamerica/Projects_List_November2008.pdf

I have yet to sit down and read this mess cover to cover, but I suggest that all Americans hold their Church accountable for these violations of trust. I would think that enough Latin Americans have been caught using the Catholic Church on both sides of the border, for other than religious purposes that a full investigation is in order.
Ola 4GBradley,

instead of coming crying to us, why don’t you take it up with your bishop?

Adios amigo.
 
I’m confused. Was the second collection at your parish mandatory? Did the ushers take the money from you? If you don’t want to donate to cause X, then don’t donate.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
These kinds of threads make sad.
I hope that somewhere in your heart you find compassion and charity for people.

What is wrong with being bi-lingual?
 
I’m confused. Was the second collection at your parish mandatory? Did the ushers take the money from you? If you don’t want to donate to cause X, then don’t donate.

– Mark L. Chance.
But how many people in the Catholic Church check any of the destinations of those donations. So many parishoners trust the Church to do the right thing and to feed the REAL poor that they don’t investigate those organization.

And no. No one is forcing anyone to contribute. I’ve never even heard of tithing except outside the Catholic Church. But the people have the right to know if this money will be used to further the plans of invading the US by those countries south of the border.

Should all real Americans just get up and walk out on a Church service when these people request more money from the ignorant American? I’m sure God would understand but I don’t think the Church would.
 
Ola 4GBradley,

instead of coming crying to us, why don’t you take it up with your bishop?

Adios amigo.
I’m not crying to anyone in YOUR country. You think you owed the US a little more respect than to watch it being taken over by gangs and poisoned by drugs , but you reap what you sow. I’m sure you’ll feel much safer in a world where Latin America has nuclear weapons that can reach the UK if you cause any trouble.

Buenos Dias, Gringo!
 
But how many people in the Catholic Church check any of the destinations of those donations. So many parishoners trust the Church to do the right thing and to feed the REAL poor that they don’t investigate those organization.

And no. No one is forcing anyone to contribute. I’ve never even heard of tithing except outside the Catholic Church. But the people have the right to know if this money will be used to further the plans of invading the US by those countries south of the border.

Should all real Americans just get up and walk out on a Church service when these people request more money from the ignorant American? I’m sure God would understand but I don’t think the Church would.
I guess it depends on whether one considers being a “real American” and/or a “real Christian” mutually exclusive realities.
I’m not crying to anyone in YOUR country. You think you owed the US a little more respect than to watch it being taken over by gangs and poisoned by drugs , but you reap what you sow. I’m sure you’ll feel much safer in a world where Latin America has nuclear weapons that can reach the UK if you cause any trouble.

Buenos Dias, Gringo!
My goodness. Somebody needs a hug today. 😃

I wonder if you’ve considered what it’s like to live in areas of Latin America, where the Church is trying to reach out and help.

I wonder too if you feel “fleeced”, if you choose to contribute directly to charities whom you “know” for certain direct the funds directly to feeding and clothing the poor, etc.
 
I’m not crying to anyone in YOUR country. You think you owed the US a little more respect than to watch it being taken over by gangs and poisoned by drugs , but you reap what you sow. I’m sure you’ll feel much safer in a world where Latin America has nuclear weapons that can reach the UK if you cause any trouble.

Buenos Dias, Gringo!
Then take it to Stormfront. This is an international forum.
 
What is wrong with being bi-lingual?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being bi-lingual. But I do think there is something wrong with an English speaking American being denied a job in America because they don’t speak Spanish, but a Spanish speaking non-American joins the American workforce without knowing a bit of English? I find it amazing that I live in America, and I am the one who is being horrible because I don’t know (and don’t want to learn) Spanish. I find it amazing that when I go to a lot of places and the employees that work with the public don’t speak English, I am the one that is horrible and should learn Spanish. I find it amazing that I walk into a Lowe’s or Home Depot, and the boxes are on the shelves with the Spanish facing out. If I want to read the box, I have to turn it around. I truly believe everyone has the right to better themselves and their family, and if it means coming to America, that’s great. But learn the language.
 
Ah, as was said in last Sunday’s reading: ‘the world as it now is, is passing away… and a new world is on the way’… and to think, this was said thousands of years ago, and it’s still transforming today.

Isn’t ‘evolution’ great?
 
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