Folk, Not Rock, is Most Responsible for Profaning Church Music Today!

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Alan: I always thought it was “hey nonny no, nanny ninny no” and I’m getting kind of confused with all the nannies and the ninnies.
Jerry: There’s no nanny, just take that out of the equation. It’s “hey nonny no, nonny ninny o”.
Mark: Iron clad rule, Alan: nonny before ninny.
Alan: Well, I don’t sing this one anyway.
Jerry: No, so it’s kind of academic.

Silly folk music. 😛
“There was abuse in my family, but it was mostly musical in nature.” 😉
 
I’ve heard of Savior Machine, although ironically I’m a Goth but I don’t really dig that style of music. It’s funny though, because a lot of that style really is reminiscent of a more Catholic culture. I just wish Catholics would take it back, because it is terribly hard for me to find Catholic metal and rock. I’ve heard a few bands, but their music just paled in comparison to the secular and Protestant music I’ve heard. But Illuminandi and Metatrone and Erlosung are Catholic and pretty good. I don’t know their particular brands of Christianity but Antestor, Aletheian, Kekal, Oskord, and Holy Blood are good too. Oskord and Holy Blood are actually Eastern Orthodox folk… eheh… metal 😃

I mean, really… black metal with organs, and orchestra, choir, and in Latin? Mmmmm…
 
Or, how about you do what MY Church does and plays the classic hymns on folk instruments? Hmm? And folk itself isn’t a threat to the Church, just when some people take it out of context. Some banjoist playing a coffee shop isn’t any more likely to deconvert Catholics than a classical conductor on stage is. :mad:
 
Oh my Goodness!!! What’s next!? Are you going to tell me that my childs nursery rhymes are morbid songs about the black plague?
Are you going to tell me some of our Christian holidays were placed on certain dates to cover up Pagan holidays?!?!

OH NO.

No, seriously, OP. It’s no big deal. If anything we should just chuckle at this historical tidbit and move on… Heck, why is it “profane” that someone rewrote a song with such dark subject matter, and made it into a sappy Christian song.

Folk, rock music, ect are not detrimental in any way, shape, or form unless your paranoid mind allows them to be.
 
Why would it be alright to repurpose a pegan holiday into a Christian one but not a traditional or folk-styled song?
 
One day a kid in my class wasn’t paying attention to me and I had gotten on his case, redirected him, a million times. I have tons of classic rock on my laptop. I clicked on The Wall from Pink Floyd. The kid sat there staring off…all of a sudden it played “hellllo helllo…is there anybody in there? Just knock if you can here me! Is there anyone at home?” That kid cracked up at me! He just loved that. It busted him up…
 
One day a kid in my class wasn’t paying attention to me and I had gotten on his case, redirected him, a million times. I have tons of classic rock on my laptop. I clicked on The Wall from Pink Floyd. The kid sat there staring off…all of a sudden it played “hellllo helllo…is there anybody in there? Just knock if you can here me! Is there anyone at home?” That kid cracked up at me! He just loved that. It busted him up…
Isn’t that based, in part, on Syd Barrett?

Ishii
 
I never said rock music should be played at Church? I hate even having guitars inside the church and I’m a GUITAR PLAYER! 😛
Rock and folk music and even folkrock music have their place -in the dorm room, the concert hall, club, bar, my car, etc. Just not inside the church during mass.

Ishii
 
…Or, how about you do what MY Church does and plays the classic hymns on folk instruments? Hmm? …
Actually, in theory, this is an approach that interests me. One of the things I have noticed about the speed-metal, shredder-type players is how easily they can adapt their techniques to baroque music. Being able to finger-tap a Bach fugue is almost de rigueur for all Yngwie-accolytes. It’s just my observation, but for many kids weaned on rock, baroque often provides a gateway into classical music. They seem to “get it” almost immediately.

I don’t think most churches are ready to replace their organs with electric guitarists just yet, however.
 
…No, seriously, OP. It’s no big deal. If anything we should just chuckle at this historical tidbit and move on… Heck, why is it “profane” that someone rewrote a song with such dark subject matter, and made it into a sappy Christian song…
There is nothing wrong with it, as long the music itself isn’t profane. As I mentioned in a previous post, we have to sort out music, lyrics and cultural connotations. If we grant that the lyrics have been revised to weed out the offensive message (true in my example), and if we grant that most people don’t remember the tune as an old ale-house favorite (probably true, but now that I told you the true story of The Shearin’s Nae for You I might have spoiled that for you), then we have to answer the question of the music itself. Is the music somehow profaning in and of itself? If so, then what is it about folk-music that is inherently profaning? (We should leave aside the question of whether folk music is some, any, or mostly good for now - that’s a different debate.)

Of course, we could also ask the same questions about rock music, but I don’t hear a lot of rock music in church, but I do hear a lot of folk-inspired and actual folk tunes.
 
Why would it be alright to repurpose a pegan holiday into a Christian one but not a traditional or folk-styled song?
This is a good question. In October there were a lot of threads about the inherent evils of American-style Halloween. Even the briefest review of those threads will show you that some people feel very strongly that children dressing up and extracting a candy donation from their neighbors is just a fews steps shy of coven-membership. I would argue, however, that the impact of such holidays is necessarily small, given that Halloween only comes once a year, while the influence of folk music is ever-present in modern Christian worship.

I think part of the argument for why it is okay to re-purpose holidays, however, is that we worship The God who created everything. If the church appears to have re-purposed an ancient harvest celebration that worships corn-as-god, I don’t think that is so bad, since our God created corn in the first place. The answer is that Jesus is the real God of corn (and everything else, including music).
 
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