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cdavies6103
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I’ve recently confessed, what I feel was a pretty bad lie. In order to be forgiven do I need to tell the person/people that I lied and tell the truth or is the sin forgiven by merit of confession alone?
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cdavies6103
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No reply. Hmm… First thread/post ever on the internet… Guess this is why I waited so long. Or am I being impatient?
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mlz
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If you have contrition and are sorry for your sin and receive absolution from your priest you are forgiven. Your priest should have given you a penance, that you must do. I’m sure your priest could advise you on your question more.
Blessings,
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david_patrick
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hi,
the other post has summed up a very good point/ if i say too much in the following, sorry, and take what you can and disregard teh rest…
if helpful—i have/cut paste…from a forum email…there is a learning curve-and computer media forums can’t be always of access-there can be a fear or worry that you (or me) don’t know what is going to happen in the future, by action or or solving a past problem, or delay…as the conscience if perfected over time as a true conscience-the word-‘sorry’ speaks louder than words/while a penance is a turning point:
since i am often confused about “God’s will for me” and i am…i should compare my life to that character in “It’s a wonderful life…” Jimmy stewart’s character…who has every plan-turned to another road…in the past few years , i had been embittered…(that is just me)…
Doubt, in this case…seems to reflect more at the end of the day…but in the learning curve…it should be no secret that , at the end of teh day…i reflect on how well it went at work and so on…dillemmas happen, so goes the human condition…/today i just went hour per hour…asking /praying on the hour/ a quick prayer for a gift to take care of the needs of the present/ not to brag that it worked or not, to my relief-there was an answer…so in hindsight i just forgot to ask, or got into the habit of not asking…
the idea of doing God’s will is frustrating, my human condition…seems others on the forum-don’t have a problem with it…maybe they and i use a certain symantics-…at any rate (just to share) if i don’t know the will of God always, maybe i might recognize the desire to do it/ still, a weakness persists in me-i was thinking between those prayers on the hour, today/ and a new reflection came up taht gave me a bit of peace-central, of all images, Jesus Christ in the garden of gethsemani-his drops of blood/ i don’t know if this is meant to be metaphor, swet as blood, or real blood/ i admit it is necessarily not like my blood/ so i like to picture myself in the garden of gethsemani, yet i still don’t know God’s will always-to honestly say i will do it-, do or don’t in choices, plans, or my behavior…so what gave peace today for me-was to ‘rely’ on those drops of blood-Jesus’ drops of blood in gethsemani-i am confident he would take care of my worry upon the hour-and take care of my concerns of ‘the will of God,’ when too distracted…when i don’t have a clue (being often)…if a man , Jesus Christ-would be so anxious (the human part of Jesus, reacting) and still know the will of God…and do it to the letter…i can trust him…these are my thoughts…trust God no matter what…
the other post has summed up a very good point/ if i say too much in the following, sorry, and take what you can and disregard teh rest…
if helpful—i have/cut paste…from a forum email…there is a learning curve-and computer media forums can’t be always of access-there can be a fear or worry that you (or me) don’t know what is going to happen in the future, by action or or solving a past problem, or delay…as the conscience if perfected over time as a true conscience-the word-‘sorry’ speaks louder than words/while a penance is a turning point:
since i am often confused about “God’s will for me” and i am…i should compare my life to that character in “It’s a wonderful life…” Jimmy stewart’s character…who has every plan-turned to another road…in the past few years , i had been embittered…(that is just me)…
Doubt, in this case…seems to reflect more at the end of the day…but in the learning curve…it should be no secret that , at the end of teh day…i reflect on how well it went at work and so on…dillemmas happen, so goes the human condition…/today i just went hour per hour…asking /praying on the hour/ a quick prayer for a gift to take care of the needs of the present/ not to brag that it worked or not, to my relief-there was an answer…so in hindsight i just forgot to ask, or got into the habit of not asking…
the idea of doing God’s will is frustrating, my human condition…seems others on the forum-don’t have a problem with it…maybe they and i use a certain symantics-…at any rate (just to share) if i don’t know the will of God always, maybe i might recognize the desire to do it/ still, a weakness persists in me-i was thinking between those prayers on the hour, today/ and a new reflection came up taht gave me a bit of peace-central, of all images, Jesus Christ in the garden of gethsemani-his drops of blood/ i don’t know if this is meant to be metaphor, swet as blood, or real blood/ i admit it is necessarily not like my blood/ so i like to picture myself in the garden of gethsemani, yet i still don’t know God’s will always-to honestly say i will do it-, do or don’t in choices, plans, or my behavior…so what gave peace today for me-was to ‘rely’ on those drops of blood-Jesus’ drops of blood in gethsemani-i am confident he would take care of my worry upon the hour-and take care of my concerns of ‘the will of God,’ when too distracted…when i don’t have a clue (being often)…if a man , Jesus Christ-would be so anxious (the human part of Jesus, reacting) and still know the will of God…and do it to the letter…i can trust him…these are my thoughts…trust God no matter what…
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ccmcmg
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You’ve been forgiven. Was your penance to tell the person? I’ve never had that told to me, and I’ve told some whoppers. In fact, my priest told me to keep sin (which amounted to a lie) to myself, and that it would serve no purpose to tell the offended party, as they didn’t know I’d lied, and I wasn’t lying to them any longer.
To my understanding, even if we skip the penance (NEVER DO THAT!!) we have still been given absolution. However, in my opinion, we might spend a bit longer in purgatory for that.
Even when I confessed having something that wasn’t mine (relatively minor…not a car or money or something) I wasn’t instructed to return it as part of my penance. However, I did contact the person in order to do that, but that was on my own.
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Regina_Love
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Your sin is forgiven in confession. Is God calling you to reparation also?
I guess it depends on the nature of the lie. For instance if a person got drunk & had a one night stand, and lied about what they did that night to their spouse, and If they are determined to never do that again. I would recommend they keep quiet about it, so they don’t deeply wound their spouse, and perhaps wreck their marriage, and family. They are forgiven. Just be watchful to avoid that ever happening again!
If your lie will cause them great harm, and you can fix it. I would do it. Like if you said they should lay down big bucks for a car that’s a lemon. I would call them back & say it’s not a good deal. If you recommended some one for a job, but know they will steal from the company, call back & tell them you’ve had second thoughts, and would like to withdraw your support for their employment.
Did you know lying and stealing are related? When we lie we are stealing the truth from some one. It is an offense against love. God calls us to love one another, which means we want what is best for them. We also risk loosing their trust, and damaging our relationship. I will pray God shows you what to do, and gives you the courage to do it.
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david_patrick
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i like that…“to offend love.”, in context…thxx for posting, God BlessYour sin is forgiven in confession. Is God calling you to reparation also?
I guess it depends on the nature of the lie. For instance if a person got drunk & had a one night stand, and lied about what they did that night to their spouse, and If they are determined to never do that again. I would recommend they keep quiet about it, so they don’t deeply wound their spouse, and perhaps wreck their marriage, and family. They are forgiven. Just be watchful to avoid that ever happening again!
If your lie will cause them great harm, and you can fix it. I would do it. Like if you said they should lay down big bucks for a car that’s a lemon. I would call them back & say it’s not a good deal. If you recommended some one for a job, but know they will steal from the company, call back & tell them you’ve had second thoughts, and would like to withdraw your support for their employment.
Did you know lying and stealing are related? When we lie we are stealing the truth from some one. It is an offense against love. God calls us to love one another, which means we want what is best for them. We also risk loosing their trust, and damaging our relationship. I will pray God shows you what to do, and gives you the courage to do it.
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Bookcat
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Certainly one is to repent. But to then go and tell the person you lied to them?
It is difficult to say. Your confessor can guide you - I imagine sometimes it may be that going and telling them about the lie can cause even greater harm …I am not saying here what to do …except to seek the advice of the Priest in confession.
It is difficult to say. Your confessor can guide you - I imagine sometimes it may be that going and telling them about the lie can cause even greater harm …I am not saying here what to do …except to seek the advice of the Priest in confession.
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david_patrick
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hi, i did not want to get too involved here-as it is very fortunate to have the sacrament of confession/ and so don’t want to interfere with the actions of the holy spirit/
(from another post, if two sins add money to the situation, it really gets complex)
i always believed, that the action of the HOly Spirit was so infuential in recocilliation, to depend on him there, was also to believe he would fix the problem in situations…i do have some proof of that for my self…at any rate a little white lie could be to spare someone their feelings-situation of being asked :“does this make me look big?”
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or a lie at work could be like quick sand, if one deception, many lies are blocks put down to build up the first lie, a temptation to fix a lie with a lie…
among friends, there is need to define friends/ i might lie-but come back later to tell them, and the reason, as the flow of logic in the OP could in fact move into what is a friend?
(from another post, if two sins add money to the situation, it really gets complex)
i always believed, that the action of the HOly Spirit was so infuential in recocilliation, to depend on him there, was also to believe he would fix the problem in situations…i do have some proof of that for my self…at any rate a little white lie could be to spare someone their feelings-situation of being asked :“does this make me look big?”
/or a lie at work could be like quick sand, if one deception, many lies are blocks put down to build up the first lie, a temptation to fix a lie with a lie…
among friends, there is need to define friends/ i might lie-but come back later to tell them, and the reason, as the flow of logic in the OP could in fact move into what is a friend?
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