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Since there are no validly ordained priests in your church or any other Protestant church, there can be no Eucharist. Even though you believe that you are consuning the true body and blood of Jesus, you are not because there is no transubstantiation happening in your church because there are no Priests. Your pastors or ministers are not validly ordained in the Ministerial Priesthood of Jesus Chirst. Jesus gave the power of the Holy Spirit to the Apostles to change the bread and wine to the True Body & Blood of Jesus Christ. Those Apostles were our first Bishops who in turn lay hands on their disciples and made them Bishops or their successors. We have those successors in our Catholic Church and therefore the power of the Holy Spirit to change the bread to the True Body of Christ, remains in our Catholic Church with the validly ordained Priests.
It has been a while since I have taken communion. We have just recently started to attend a Catholic church (we are Anglican) and I do miss it. As much as I don’t like the sound of it, my heart feels that even though Father Chad gives the blessing, it is still not recgonized by the Catholic Church, thus it really is not valid. When we attend the Catholic church, I am not able to take it because I am not a confirmed Catholic yet, so I sit in a rut. I’m looking forward to taking the class so that I can once again take the body/blood.
 
I was just wondering that if the CC dropped their Traditions of honoring Mary and the saints, the sacrament of Confession to a priest and the papal infallibility doctrine, would Protestants become Catholic?
The reason I listed these is because these seem to be the main ones Protestants have issues with.
Also, if your reason is not listed in the ones I mentioned, feel free to share. 🙂
Protestants that converted to Catholicism can also share the reason why they converted, if they’d like. 👍
These are the things that are drawing me to the CC. The sacrament of Confession is something that my heart has been desiring. I am not a member of the CC yet, so I am not sure if a preist would hear me.
 
{{{{{Sandy}}}}} Thank you for your kind words!

There are a lot of us out there that believe that, that we really imbibe the Lord’s body and blood. 🙂
Probably because you read the Scriptures, especially John 6, and don’t pay any attention to the official teachings of your denomination on this issue. 😉

My husband is the same - he had no idea that his church teaches a symbolic Eucharist until I asked him about it - when I asked him, he said, “How could they teach that? It goes against the Bible!!”
 
Hang in there, LadyBug. Christ is present at your Eucharist. I suspect God is bigger than Rome.
God was also bigger than Noah, but only those who followed Noah were saved in the Ark.

And God was also bigger than Moses, but only those who followed Moses made it to the Promised Land.

God is bigger than all of us, but He appoints spiritual leaders from among us, and makes them known to the whole world, so that we know who to follow. We are not left as orphans to try to figure things out for ourselves.
 
God is bigger than all of us, but He appoints spiritual leaders from among us, and makes them known to the whole world, so that we know who to follow. We are not left as orphans to try to figure things out for ourselves.
Thank goodness He is a loving Father!!! 😃
 
God is bigger than all of us, but He appoints spiritual leaders from among us, and makes them known to the whole world, so that we know who to follow. We are not left as orphans to try to figure things out for ourselves.
Thank God for that! (I’d be in deep doo doo if I was left to “figure” things out)
 
If you don’t believe those words literally, then how can you say that you believe in Jesus and everything He said? We have to take everything that Jesus says and do it, not just believe in Jesus. We have faith in every word that Jesus spoke.
The same way you can say that Mary was sinless her ENTIRE life by taking the biblical phrase “full of grace” to mean “sinless her ENTIRE life”.
Jesus was talking about feeding our souls, not our bodies.
 
The same way you can say that Mary was sinless her ENTIRE life by taking the biblical phrase “full of grace” to mean “sinless her ENTIRE life”.
Jesus was talking about feeding our souls, not our bodies.
You’re absolutely right.

Jhn 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Jhn 6:54
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

Jhn 6:55
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

REMEMBER JESUS DEFINED MEAT HERE
Jhn 4:34
Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

Jhn 6:28
Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

Jhn 6:29
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Jhn 6:58
This is that bread which came down from heaven: NOT AS YOUR FATHERS DID EAT MANNA, AND ARE DEAD: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

Living Bread = Flesh (John 6:51)
Flesh = Meat (John 6:55)
Meat = “to do the will of God, and to finish His work.” (John 4:34)
Work of God = “believe on Him whom He hath sent.” (John 6:28-29)
Living Bread = NOT AS YOUR FATHERS DID EAT MANNA, AND ARE DEAD (John 6:58)
 
These are the things that are drawing me to the CC. The sacrament of Confession is something that my heart has been desiring. I am not a member of the CC yet, so I am not sure if a preist would hear me.
Yes, you can go to confession, because I go and I am not a Catholic. Just make sure than when you go you make sure that the Priest you are talking to knows your situation.
 
I was just wondering that if the CC dropped their Traditions of honoring Mary and the saints, the sacrament of Confession to a priest and the papal infallibility doctrine, would Protestants become Catholic?
The reason I listed these is because these seem to be the main ones Protestants have issues with.
Also, if your reason is not listed in the ones I mentioned, feel free to share. 🙂
Protestants that converted to Catholicism can also share the reason why they converted, if they’d like. 👍
Umm, from my background as an Anglican it has nothing to do with Mary and the Saints, as we share the same sacrements as Catholics do. I just feel as though “things” occured as they did through out history for a reason, complex question and I do not have a complex answer. So I would just have to say NO.

Jokerz
 
Yes, you can go to confession, because I go and I am not a Catholic. Just make sure than when you go you make sure that the Priest you are talking to knows your situation.
As I understand it, a non-Catholic can talk privately with the priest in the Confessional, but he cannot receive the Absolution, and most likely would not be given a penance of any kind.
 
The actual transformation of the host into Jesus’ body/blood is still a concept foreign to me. I believe in His presence in the host, but beyond that, it is hard for me to grasp.
Well join the rest of us! 😃 It is hard for all of us to grasp. You are not alone.

6 And without faith it is impossible
to please him
. For whoever would
draw near to God must believe that
he exists and that he rewards those
who seek him.
Heb 11:6

We would be lost if God said that without “understanding” or without “grasping” it is impossible to please Him. So as long as you believe it is really the True Body, Blood, Soul & Divinity of Jesus Christ, you’ll be fine. We don’t have to understand how it happens. 🙂
 
It has been a while since I have taken communion. We have just recently started to attend a Catholic church (we are Anglican) and I do miss it.
That says a lot if you miss it. "Our hearts are restless until they rest in Thee, O Lord" Saint Augustine said that! 😃
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BabyDoll4:
As much as I don’t like the sound of it, my heart feels that even though Father Chad gives the blessing, it is still not recgonized by the Catholic Church, thus it really is not valid.
Wow, there goes that restless heart again. You are right to follow your heart. Since you know that it is not recognized by the Catholic Church, then you know that it is not recognized by God because Jesus left us with a Church that is guided by the Holy Spirit. Jesus said that He would remain with us until the end of time. He didn’t only mean in a spiritual way, He actually meant in a very substantial way. Jesus is with us, Body, Blood, Soul & Divinity right here on earth! ❤️ Jesus was so humble enough to be brutalized, beaten and crucified for us. He did not stop there however. He is so humble that He remains with us as our true food and true drink. How awesome is that?!! ❤️
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BabyDoll4:
When we attend the Catholic church, I am not able to take it because I am not a confirmed Catholic yet, so I sit in a rut.
This is all going to work out in the end for you. I think this “rut” is all for good reason. God does not allow bad or sad times without having it be for His own glory. So pray and keep being faithful. I will pray for you too. :gopray2:
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BabyDoll4:
I’m looking forward to taking the class so that I can once again take the body/blood.
Wow, I can’t wait for you! You will be in my prayers. :gopray:
 
I was just wondering that if the CC dropped their Traditions of honoring Mary and the saints, the sacrament of Confession to a priest and the papal infallibility doctrine, would Protestants become Catholic?
The reason I listed these is because these seem to be the main ones Protestants have issues with.
Also, if your reason is not listed in the ones I mentioned, feel free to share. 🙂
Protestants that converted to Catholicism can also share the reason why they converted, if they’d like. 👍
I think the main issue for myself and many other Lutherans is the doctrine of Justification. I actually know a lot of people at my university who would go Orthodox if it were not for their doctrines of justification and sanctification.
 
These are the things that are drawing me to the CC.
This is why it is so important for Catholics to remain faithful and true to God.
It is very important that our Priests stay faithful and reverant.

I think it is also important that the newer Catholic Churches that are being built remain “Catholic” in the sense of statues, candles, stained glass windows, the Tabernacle in the middle of the altar… etc. I also think it is important that no liturgical abuses happen during the Mass.

I also wish that we could go back to only having altar boys instead of girls now up in the Sacristy during Mass. I also miss the altar rail. I only know of one Catholic Parish that still has and uses the altar rail. I know there are other Parishes out there that still have the rail, I just haven’t been to all the churches. LOL This Parish also still has only altar boys and they still wear the original “altar boy vestments,” not sure if that’s what they’re called. I still hear the bells during the consecration too.

All those things are very important. Those visible things in a Catholic Church along with the teachings are very important. It is what sets us apart from any other church or religion.
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BabyDoll4:
The sacrament of Confession is something that my heart has been desiring. I am not a member of the CC yet, so I am not sure if a preist would hear me.
I’m not sure if this could be done or not. But I would imagine that it could be. It’s not one of the Sacraments of initiation so I don’t see why you couldn’t go to a priest. If not for the actual Sacrament of Confession, at least to talk to him.

But I’m sure this is a case where Jesus does forgive anyway because your sorrow comes from your heart. As long as you repent out of true love for God and not so much out of fear of punishment or hell, then Jesus will grant you forgiveness. ❤️
What is nice is that you actually talk to another person, the Priest, just as Jesus intended us to do. That Priest in turn hears your voice.

There are so many compassionate priests out there and it’s nice to hear his compassionate voice consoling you. It does make a difference knowing that another human being is hearing and listening to you. But what is more awesome than that is that the priest is actually Jesus but is just hiding behind the flesh. We call that the Priest standing in the person of Christ or “In Persona Christi.”

10 Whomever you forgive anything, so
do I. For indeed what I have forgiven,
if I have forgiven anything, has been for
you in the presence of Christ
2 Cor 2:10


Here Jesus is only talking to the Apostles. That is very important to know so that we know that only the Catholic Priest can give absolution for the forgiveness of sins. God intended us to be heard by another human being and of course that human being is the Priest.
21 (Jesus) said to them again, “Peace
be with you. As the Father has sent
me, so I send you
.”
22 And when he had said this, he
breathed on them and said to them,
Receive the holy Spirit.
23 Whose sins you forgive are forgiven
them, and whose sins you retain are
retained
.” Jn 20:21-23
 
O.S. Luke:
Hang in there, LadyBug. Christ is present at your Eucharist. I suspect God is bigger than Rome.
God was also bigger than Noah, but only those who followed Noah were saved in the Ark.

And God was also bigger than Moses, but only those who followed Moses made it to the Promised Land.

God is bigger than all of us, but He appoints spiritual leaders from among us, and makes them known to the whole world, so that we know who to follow. We are not left as orphans to try to figure things out for ourselves.
Wow, jmcrae, I couldn’t have said it better myself! :clapping:

Of course God is bigger than Rome. That is why the Catholic Church is for the Whole World and not just Rome; hence the word “catholic.”
 
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awantz:
Yes, you can go to confession, because I go and I am not a Catholic. Just make sure than when you go you make sure that the Priest you are talking to knows your situation.
As I understand it, a non-Catholic can talk privately with the priest in the Confessional, but he cannot receive the Absolution, and most likely would not be given a penance of any kind.
I think that awantz seems to know this because he didn’t say anything about receiving absolution and he did say that she would have to let the Priest know her situation before starting. http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i85/Alegre-Fe/Emoticons/Dontknow3.gif So that’s just my guess as to what awantz understands, not sure though.
 
Wow, jmcrae, I couldn’t have said it better myself! :clapping:

Of course God is bigger than Rome. That is why the Catholic Church is for the Whole World and not just Rome; hence the word “catholic.”
1Jo 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

1Jo 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
 
Well join the rest of us! 😃 It is hard for all of us to grasp. You are not alone.

6 And without faith it is impossible
to please him
. For whoever would
draw near to God must believe that
he exists and that he rewards those
who seek him.
Heb 11:6

We would be lost if God said that without “understanding” or without “grasping” it is impossible to please Him. So as long as you believe it is really the True Body, Blood, Soul & Divinity of Jesus Christ, you’ll be fine. We don’t have to understand how it happens. 🙂
Hbr 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things NOT SEEN.

That verse alone rules out the eucharist.

These verses end the debate.

Jhn 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Jhn 6:54
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

Jhn 6:55
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

REMEMBER, JESUS DEFINED MEAT HERE
Jhn 4:34
Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

Jhn 6:28
Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

Jhn 6:29
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Jhn 6:58
This is that bread which came down from heaven: NOT AS YOUR FATHERS DID EAT MANNA, AND ARE DEAD: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

Living Bread = Flesh of Jesus (John 6:51)
Flesh of Jesus = Meat (John 6:55)
Meat = “to do the will of God, and to finish His work.” (John 4:34)
Work of God = “believe on Him whom He hath sent.” (John 6:28-29)
Living Bread = NOT AS YOUR FATHERS DID EAT MANNA, AND ARE DEAD (John 6:58)
 
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