For English non-Catholics.

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What is it that non-Catholics object to about Catholics?

In England, Catholics are actively discriminated against by all manner of organisations and in all forms.

For example the 'UGOV site where anyone is eligible to sign up and participate, anyone of Irish Catholic descent if they try to log on, their password is not accepted. I did not believe this and signed on myself in good faith. Sure enough, I was not allowed to participate.

Of course they did not say ‘this was the reason why’, but I had already been told what would happen if I tried.

So, obviously information is pooled by government agencies. Why are they so prejudiced? My grandfather [Irish] served in HM Navy with distinction. My father too in the British Army. My uncle distinguished by a very daring raid on an SS supply dump, which his platoon destroyed, denying the [then] enemy access to fuel which rendered their panzers next to useless, saving thousands of allied lives and helping to bring WW2 to a close. Yet, I am not trusted bcause I am of Irish descent.

What is it that bugs Englishmen about the Irish?

Is it prejudice against Irish, Catholic or both? Without prejudice welcome any feedback.

God bless you
 
I may be completely off my trolly but committed as I am to the cause of love reconcilation and forgiveness, notice that when I try to access certain sites [in particular gov’t sponsored ones], I am unable to access due to ‘some technological problem’. It is ALWAYS a tech problem to do with signing in.

The organisers never do tell you what the problem is so you never get to sign in.

I am aware that I have been actively discriminated against because:
1. my family were Irish Catholic
2. I am distantly related to the Tudors who were also Catholic.
3. I actively promote equality of opportunity, anti-discriminatory. I will defend an
atheists right to be atheist not because I believe in atheism but because I believe in
human rights!
4. I am also outspoken on a diverse range of subjects where I defend peoples rights to
be ‘who they are’ ‘believe’ and ‘express themselves the way they chose!’

I have never accessed or attempted to access anything illegal, yet someone is monitoring net traffic and barring certain access to certain sites where I am in a position to express certain opinions, some of which are not always supportive of the status quo.

Some one is moderating the net. I am invariably barred from entering most governmental and intergovernmental sites. I wonder who this covert police authority is!

Is there such a body in USA?

Blessings and peace

Someone is monitoring web traffic.
 
Sorry but this is all I have. They are not sending links to me anymore so I cannot even send you the link/

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what you think on everything from products to policy.

And what’s more, you’ll get paid for it: for each survey
you’ll get paid into your personal YouGov Account - just for
signing up you’ll receive your first £1.

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Blessings and peace
 
Lilyflower said:
You might also want to try the following:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/default.stm

Good luck 👍
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I didn’t have any problem logging into the YouGov site either (with an Irish form of my name), and I don’t even live in the UK.

I’m not sure what your problem is with the BBC Talking Point, either. It is a fully moderated site, so not every comment is published but those that are rejected usually break one of the House Rules. I’ve often contributed and, to date, all my contributions have been published.
 
LondonIrish said:
Hello Lilyflower

I’m registered on the BBC site and I am also identified as catholic. I have a good 'ol Irish name.

Perhaps it’s an IT problem your side. Have you got ‘‘cookies’’ enabled in your browser for example?
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I do occasionally have Kentucky Fried Chicken when I can get it! 😛

Cookies? Cookies enabled? 😛

Are you serious or is this a joke?

What’s a browser? My system is Windows XP. Do they come with browers?

I presume this is computer jargon and that they are not real cookies. Please forgive me if I appear somewhat naive.

Blessings and peace
 
puzzleannie said:
I think you need to study your country’s history
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Not so, I think that you are naive about the facts!

Or perhaps you are just coloured by the popular media interpretations.

Most Tudors and Stewarts remained loyal Catholics but contrary to popular belief, there were forces at work greater than the reigning Monarch whose complicity was necessary for the Monarch to succeed. These forces were mainly Protestant.

Elisabeth 1 for example: her family were practicing Catholic, while paradoxically, Elisabeth appeared to persecute Catholics.

Elisabeth realised that to succeed, she had to be seen to go along with the wishes of the powerful Protestants. This is how she built the success of her reign.

Contrary to popular belief, our family tradition has it that though she signed the death warrant of her cousin Mary Queen of Scots, this was only to appease the Protestants. She did not expect that warrant to be enacted nor did she consent to its enactment. Elisabeth did not wish for the death of her cousin. This was carried out without the consent of the reigning Monarch.

My family [nee Hayes who married Gosnold] were cousins to the Great Elisabeth 1. If she was really Protestant, why did she not purge her own family?

Explain that one please???

My family succeeded and practised their Catholic religion, being eventually dispossed and robbed of their entire wealth and worldly goods by Cromwell, not for being Catholic but for being Royalist!

Blessings and peace
 
:…& by today’s standards, we are mere peasants.

But we remain loyal to our great and glorious Monarch Queen Elisabeth 2.

The new war is against the satanic evil of Republicanism and the Protestant successors of unrestrained ‘men in suits’ who would depose her at a whim if she did not scrape to their wishes…

They are not fit to sweep the road upon which our gracious Queen walks.

I am ready, willing to bare arms, fight and to die tomorrow for the defence of our Monarch, now where did I put my powder flask, hearing aid and spectacles!!!

Blessings and peace
 
Once again JC, we’re in complete agreement.

I was born here but am an Irish national by parentage and by choice, can’t really see myself toasting the English Monarchy although there were some admirable members.
 
Even when they had something to do with Ireland there were still quite a few that saw no need to raise a glass to them 😃
 
LDNCatholic said:
Even when they had something to do with Ireland there were still quite a few that saw no need to raise a glass to them 😃
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They still have something to do with Ireland.

They occupy six counties of it, depending on your politics 😉

I knew some guys from Northern Ireland - good guys and great soldiers. It was funny listening to them speak french with that peculiar rough northern Irish accent 😃
 
Guyonthestreet said:
They still have something to do with Ireland.

They occupy six counties of it, depending on your politics 😉
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I’m a citizen of the Republic of Ireland, which the British Crown has nothing to do with.

As for the rest of the Island I can only pray that the Brits pull out soon.
 
LDNCatholic said:
I’m a citizen of the Republic of Ireland, which the British Crown has nothing to do with.

As for the rest of the Island I can only pray that the Brits pull out soon.
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As someone from half a world away, why is it that the Catholic-Protestant divide has been so violently and bitterly prolonged in Northern Ireland compared to other places? Even in the early years of Australian European settlement, there was discrimination against Catholics. But that’s long gone.

What’s the peculiar circumstances that have prolonged the bitterness in Northern Ireland for so long?
 
Lilyflower said:
Not so, I think that you are naive about the facts!

Or perhaps you are just coloured by the popular media interpretations.

Most Tudors and Stewarts remained loyal Catholics but contrary to popular belief, there were forces at work greater than the reigning Monarch whose complicity was necessary for the Monarch to succeed. These forces were mainly Protestant.

Elisabeth 1 for example: her family were practicing Catholic, while paradoxically, Elisabeth appeared to persecute Catholics.

Elisabeth realised that to succeed, she had to be seen to go along with the wishes of the powerful Protestants. This is how she built the success of her reign.

Contrary to popular belief, our family tradition has it that though she signed the death warrant of her cousin Mary Queen of Scots, this was only to appease the Protestants. She did not expect that warrant to be enacted nor did she consent to its enactment. Elisabeth did not wish for the death of her cousin. This was carried out without the consent of the reigning Monarch.

My family [nee Hayes who married Gosnold] were cousins to the Great Elisabeth 1. If she was really Protestant, why did she not purge her own family?

Explain that one please???

My family succeeded and practised their Catholic religion, being eventually dispossed and robbed of their entire wealth and worldly goods by Cromwell, not for being Catholic but for being Royalist!

Blessings and peace
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I think I might be more inclined to take your account of England’s history a little more seriously if you had spelt Elizabeth’s name correctly, to be honest.
 
Bob_Crowley said:
As someone from half a world away, why is it that the Catholic-Protestant divide has been so violently and bitterly prolonged in Northern Ireland compared to other places? Even in the early years of Australian European settlement, there was discrimination against Catholics. But that’s long gone.

What’s the peculiar circumstances that have prolonged the bitterness in Northern Ireland for so long?
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The discrimination against Catholics in Northern Ireland continued long into the 20th Century, not exactly long gone as the people who suffered discrimination (on both sides) are still alive and remember.

There were numerous injustices carried out in living memory by the British government on Irish people (here when I say Irish I refer to Republicans and Catholics in Northern Ireland).

JC may step in and illuminate you more, my knowledge isn’t as encyclopaedic as his. But what I will say is that it is not so much a religious war as it is an ethnic/political one.
 
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