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I watch Glenn Beck from time to time and can report this about him and what he says about himself and his beliefs:
  • I have never seen him mention that he is Mormon, but this seems to be understood. It should be noted for anyone interested that Beck grew up Catholic.
He quotes or paraphrases Joseph Smith often, but does not attribute. The other day he said “we need to teach people correct principles and let them govern themselves”. That is a paraphrase of a well known JS quote.

He grew up Catholic in name only. His family were never devout or active Catholics and he has no understanding of Catholic teachings. Consequently, the few times he has mentioned Catholicism on the air, he has gotten it terribly wrong.
 
Just a little correction here. 😉 Being in recovery from alcoholism doesn’t make you “no longer an alcoholic” You’re still an alcoholic… just a recovering one. 👍

To the OP-- I think dianiad is right. It really depends on where you live. I would think that most Utah Mormons would agree with Beck’s views and see him as “Orthodox”. But that can’t be said about all Mormons. Just my humble opinion.

Steph
you are correct! i stand corrected. thank you:thumbsup: im often called an alcoholic by my leadership. i like to tell them, im not an alcoholic. im a drunk alcoholics go to meetings! lol! just kidding. but being in the military, and staying sober all the time…it just doesnt happen 😃 thats only in garrison tho. in the field. we dont get any. and for very good reasons. Peace 🙂
 
He quotes or paraphrases Joseph Smith often, but does not attribute. The other day he said “we need to teach people correct principles and let them govern themselves”. That is a paraphrase of a well known JS quote.
Knowing Joseph Smith as we do, he probably got that from someone else! 😉
 
But the most pressing question is, did God give Glen Beck a plan? And if he did, this the first time since JS that God actually choose (outside the play-doh FIFO method) who He will speak through in the LDS church. Is he a prophet, even the prophet???
 
But the most pressing question is, did God give Glen Beck a plan? And if he did, this the first time since JS that God actually choose (outside the play-doh FIFO method) who He will speak through in the LDS church. Is he a prophet, even the prophet???
ha, you need to watch the link I posted…“He talks a lot, hears voices and is unstable. Pretty much the whole package.” 😃
 
Glenn Beck is referring to a movement when he says Social Justice not a parrell to what the bible promotes. Social Justice (the movement) promotes taking from others forcefully, extreme violence, deceit, socialism, communism etc. Listen more closely to him and read a couple of his books. Nothing has done our American Catholic church more harm than this idea of Social Justice nothing is more harmful to American than this radical movement known as Social Justice.😦

Social Justice is good; is imperiative in a justice society; Social Justice is the death of a society aiming for justice.:eek:

I do have a beef with him. He said that when Constantine “took over” that the church and the state persecuted anyone who did not believe in the Nicene creed. He went on to say “they made everyone accept their bible…”. This is so wrong historically. The canon was not established until AFTER Constantine died and Constantine allowed all ALL faiths to practice. In fact he was very careful not to upset the pagans and he was very close to the Arians and another heretical group, whose name escapes me now. Some say he was baptized by an Arian. Arians, by the way, had a convoluted concept of the nature of Christ; just like the Mormons:mad:
 
. Arians, by the way, had a convoluted concept of the nature of Christ; just like the Mormons:mad:
While it may appear that Arians and Mormons may have the same concept that the 3 parts are separate and distinct individuals, a major difference between them is that Arians did not recognize Jesus’ divinity to where LDS do recognize Jesus’ divnity.

I’ve used this argument and was politely corrected…carry on.
 
I do have a beef with him. He said that when Constantine “took over” that the church and the state persecuted anyone who did not believe in the Nicene creed. He went on to say “they made everyone accept their bible…”. This is so wrong historically. The canon was not established until AFTER Constantine died and Constantine allowed all ALL faiths to practice. In fact he was very careful not to upset the pagans and he was very close to the Arians and another heretical group, whose name escapes me now. Some say he was baptized by an Arian. Arians, by the way, had a convoluted concept of the nature of Christ; just like the Mormons:mad:
A couple of years ago this whole “history” about Constantine was promoted in a talk given by Jeffrey Holland in their General Conference. I had a couple of missionaries bring a video of this to me at my house. I watched it with them and was just appalled at it. Glen Beck is simply repeating what he’s heard from his church authorities.

Steph
 
A couple of years ago this whole “history” about Constantine was promoted in a talk given by Jeffrey Holland in their General Conference. I had a couple of missionaries bring a video of this to me at my house. I watched it with them and was just appalled at it. Glen Beck is simply repeating what he’s heard from his church authorities.

Steph
Elder Holland is one of three speakers who normally speaks at their General Conference that I normally cringe at when I hear him with my Christian ears. LDS are normally enthralled with his explanation of church history with a LDS understanding of the events applied to it.

I’m always amazed at how my blood pressure seems to rise while LDS are emotionally and spiritually enlightened in listening to Elder Holland. If your interested in researching this yourself, you can look up on lds.org and reference any talk by Elder Holland. They all seem to have the same affect for me.
 
My guess is that most missionaries wouldn’t know the Edict of Milan from the Oscar Meyer Weiner song.

It’s too bad none have ever graced me with their presense.
 
Glenn Beck is referring to a movement when he says Social Justice not a parrell to what the bible promotes. Social Justice (the movement) promotes taking from others forcefully, extreme violence, deceit, socialism, communism etc. Listen more closely to him and read a couple of his books. Nothing has done our American Catholic church more harm than this idea of Social Justice nothing is more harmful to American than this radical movement known as Social Justice.😦

Social Justice is good; is imperiative in a justice society; Social Justice is the death of a society aiming for justice.:eek:
I agree with this description of Beck’s views. He’s not opposed to giving aid to the poor and his personal generosity is well known. He’s opposed to tyranny which exists when the government extracts such aid by force.

The fact of the matter is that when you force one person to give up the fruits of his labor (via taxation) and give it to another person (via government-run assistance) it amounts to a situation which is no different from slavery. We all abhor slavery, and that is how it should be. Charity should be voluntary, not something accomplished by force. Voluntary assistance is more beneficial, accomplishes more, and does not have a wasteful layer of bureaucracy in between the one giving aid and the one receiving it.

That is the “social justice” that Beck opposes because he knows that, if we continue on our present course, it can only lead to economic collapse.
 
While it may appear that Arians and Mormons may have the same concept that the 3 parts are separate and distinct individuals, a major difference between them is that Arians did not recognize Jesus’ divinity to where LDS do recognize Jesus’ divnity.

I didn’t say they had the same I said they both have CONVOLUTED😊 ideas of…

I’ve used this argument and was politely corrected…carry on.
 
I agree with this description of Beck’s views. He’s not opposed to giving aid to the poor and his personal generosity is well known. He’s opposed to tyranny which exists when the government extracts such aid by force.

The fact of the matter is that when you force one person to give up the fruits of his labor (via taxation) and give it to another person (via government-run assistance) it amounts to a situation which is no different from slavery. We all abhor slavery, and that is how it should be. Charity should be voluntary, not something accomplished by force. Voluntary assistance is more beneficial, accomplishes more, and does not have a wasteful layer of bureaucracy in between the one giving aid and the one receiving it.

That is the “social justice” that Beck opposes because he knows that, if we continue on our present course, it can only lead to economic collapse.
:thumbsup:To hitch-hike off what you have said, MelanieAnne, further it “bothers” me that we (The Church) take money from the government. I understand that most of our hospitals if not all receive lots of money from governments. You know that the Shriners Hospitals for the burned where ANYONE can go does not receive money from the government and that Hillsdale college, a great protestant place of learning, does not take a red cent from them. I am appalled that we have sold our inheritance to the government. We are the ones that can give better and more effectively than anyone else.:eek:
 
and there we have it again…

unable to answer the question, Diana deflects to an entirely different person…
Let’s be fair, SirThomas, Dianaid is right in her response. What would we answer if Rush Limbaugh converted to Catholicism? I think the question about Glen Beck is not reasonable and of no consequence.

PAX DOMINI :signofcross:

Shalom Aleichem
 
Knowing Joseph Smith as we do, he probably got that from someone else! 😉
Really.

Don’t you think that bit of hit and run snidery is cutting a little close to the rules, MelanieAnne?

Not to mention that y’all can’t have this both ways: either Joseph Smith is an incredibly inventive con man who wrote and came up with all sorts of original things to say, or he was too stupid to have an original thought (which is what your particular insult is indicating), in which case he got everything he ever did, said or thought from someone…or Someone…else.

Sometimes it’s a good idea, when you think you are being clever and getting off a rimshot, to…refrain.
 
Let’s be fair, SirThomas, Dianaid is right in her response. What would we answer if Rush Limbaugh converted to Catholicism? I think the question about Glen Beck is not reasonable and of no consequence.

PAX DOMINI :signofcross:

Shalom Aleichem
Thank you, Javi.

The thing is, just as Catholics can have all manner of different political and social views and still be seen quite differently in terms of religion, (which is why I brought Hannity up…) the same thing goes for Mormons.

As do Catholics, Mormons come in all political flavors. Shoot, if I’m willing to accept Harry Reid as a faithful LDS as well as Glenn Beck and Mitt Romney, all of whom have political beliefs that vary greatly from one another, then the question the OP poses is …irrelevent. Politics is not religion. Religion is not politics.

…and my mention of Hannity simply illustrates that.

Or perhaps it does not. The responses to my mentioning his name seem to indicate that, at least in this forum, one’s political opinions ARE covered by ‘what you are supposed to believe’ religiously. If that’s so, I can understand the thinking behind the OP…

the problem is, though, that whether individual members of the CoJCoLDS don’t think that Mormons should have this political belief, or that one…that attitude also varies with the person’s own political beliefs. There are quite a few Mormons who really dislike Reid’s politics, and think that he is a ‘lousy Mormon’ there by. There are also quite a few who approve of them. The same thing goes for Romney and Beck.

As far as the CHURCH itself goes, however,…all three men, as far as I know, have Temple Recommends. That would seem to tell you that “MORMONS” (as in,…what the church itself teaches and does) doesn’t give a hoot what your politics are. Individual Mormons?

Sure…but again, their attitudes vary according to their own political beliefs and ideas of right and wrong governance.
 
Let’s be fair, SirThomas, Dianaid is right in her response. What would we answer if Rush Limbaugh converted to Catholicism? I think the question about Glen Beck is not reasonable and of no consequence.

PAX DOMINI :signofcross:

Shalom Aleichem
I am being fair. The thread was about Glenn Beck. Diana does what she always does…deflects.
 
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