For Muslims: Ezra...the Son of God?

[famdigy]

As I said earlier in this thread (although it’s 19 pages now, so I don’t expect you to have gone through all of it ) if the issue is metaphorical versus more sincere Sonship, then the Quran seems to be comparing apples and oranges. Why does the Quran say in S. 9:30 “Allah’s curse be on them” or “Allah fight them” or “Allah destroy them” (depending on your translation) if the meaning isn’t the same as the Christians? Especially since the latter is definitely kafir in Islam and the Jews in the hadith you provided even identified as kafir. If the Quran teaches that Allah sent down previous messages, in which we find the identification of some as being metaphorical “sons of God,” then why is it suddenly an issue in Mohammad’s time?

We don’t believe that it was ever OK to venerate the prophets by calling them sons of God. When the Jews gave their reasons to Muhammad (pbuh&hf), they stated that in their culture it is acceptable to honor someone by referring to him as “my boy”.

Muhammad’s counter argument to the Jewish response was that this reasoning of theirs is not valid because in Jewish culture it was also acceptable to honor someone by referring to them by “my brother” or “my master”, these titles were usually reserved for people who are distinguished by their status of learning.

therefore by this reasoning, Moses (as) should be venerated as “God’s brother” because Moses holds a higher status than Ezra. When Muhammad (pbuh&hf) asked the Jewish delegation if they find it acceptable to venerate Moses by calling him “God’s brother” or “God’s master” they had no answer.

The commonality between the Jewish and Christian beliefs about the prophes sonship is that they are both not sanctioned by God. In the Muslim view, God never approved of venerating the prophet’s by calling them his sons, just as He never approved of the Christian beliefs about Jesus. In the Muslim view, both were corrupted teachings.

 

[Byzantine_Wolf]

We don’t believe that it was ever OK to venerate the prophets by calling them sons of God. When the Jews gave their reasons to Muhammad (pbuh&hf), they stated that in their culture it is acceptable to honor someone by referring to him as “my boy”.

Muhammad’s counter argument to the Jewish response was that this reasoning of theirs is not valid because in Jewish culture it was also acceptable to honor someone by referring to them by “my brother” or “my master”, these titles were usually reserved for people who are distinguished by their status of learning.

therefore by this reasoning, Moses (as) should be venerated as “God’s brother” because Moses holds a higher status than Ezra. When Muhammad (pbuh&hf) asked the Jewish delegation if they find it acceptable to venerate Moses by calling him “God’s brother” or “God’s master” they had no answer.

The commonality between the Jewish and Christian beliefs about the prophes sonship is that they are both not sanctioned by God. In the Muslim view, God never approved of venerating the prophet’s by calling them his sons, just as He never approved of the Christian beliefs about Jesus. In the Muslim view, both were corrupted teachings.

Sons of God is a phrased used over and over again in the Old Testament, often in reference to human beings. Never once is it recorded that God becomes upset for it. The only time anyone gets upset over it is its use by Jesus Christ, but that is because of the true connotation He uses for it. The problems with both uses of this term (because again, we have to identify both terms as being different) is therefore an argument novel to Islam.