? for Muslims: If Allah is not Trinity, then why does the Quran show that when Allah speaks He uses "We" & "Us"?

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SingleMomMonica said:
If you are trying to infer that Allah, the God of Muslims, is the devil or demons, then you are Not being “loyal to the Holy See”. That is against the teaching of Rome & the Catholic Church’s teachings.

You would do well to read the Catchism of the Catholic Church paragraph 841 which states that the Allah of Muslims is the Creator and that Muslims adore/worship the same One God as Catholics.
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Well…The god that muslims worship excludes OUR GOD! Jesus the Christ. I’m well aware of the paragraph that you refer to. Do you also follow the part of the CCC that says that the Orthodox Church lacks the full knowledge by rejecting the role of the successor of Peter. I don’t. I believe that the Orthodox and Catholic Churches are sister Churches with the full knowledge.

I guess I’m just a bad Catholic.
 
spn82756 said:
Well…The god that muslims worship excludes OUR GOD! Jesus the Christ. I’m well aware of the paragraph that you refer to. Do you also follow the part of the CCC that says that the Orthodox Church lacks the full knowledge by rejecting the role of the successor of Peter. I don’t. I believe that the Orthodox and Catholic Churches are sister Churches with the full knowledge.

I guess I’m just a bad Catholic.
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Even their Jihad war cry ‘Allahu Akbar’ says it too. It isn’t ‘God is Great’. It translates to say ‘My God is greater than your God’.
 
staffsgt7 said:
Even their Jihad war cry ‘Allahu Akbar’ says it too. It isn’t ‘God is Great’. It translates to say ‘My God is greater than your God’.
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Fortunately…that is only in their minds. Unfortunately they live it. For Christians…planten thinks that we are asking too much to see Jesus as God. For a Christian…that is their downfall.
 
staffsgt7 said:
Even their Jihad war cry ‘Allahu Akbar’ says it too. It isn’t ‘God is Great’. It translates to say ‘My God is greater than your God’.
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No it doesn’t… You just made that up. You could also explain why 29:46 of the Qur’an says to the Christians and Jews ‘our God is your God’.
 
staffsgt7 said:
Even their Jihad war cry ‘Allahu Akbar’ says it too. It isn’t ‘God is Great’. It translates to say ‘My God is greater than your God’.
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That actually isn’t true. “Allahu Akbar” is simply a proclamation of admiration for God, which can be said for many things other than charging into battle or shooting guns in the air. One time I was in a mosque that was low on funds, and a gentleman came forward and said he would donate the rest of the money needed. At this the mosque broke out in, “Allahu akbar! Allahu akbar!” If this meant “My God is greater than your God,” the context here would not have made sense.

I’ve also heard it said that “Allahu akbar” means “The God of War is great,” which also isn’t true.
 
Byzantine_Wolf said:
That actually isn’t true. “Allahu Akbar” is simply a proclamation of admiration for God, which can be said for many things other than charging into battle or shooting guns in the air. One time I was in a mosque that was low on funds, and a gentleman came forward and said he would donate the rest of the money needed. At this the mosque broke out in, “Allahu akbar! Allahu akbar!” If this meant “My God is greater than your God,” the context here would not have made sense.

I’ve also heard it said that “Allahu akbar” means “The God of War is great,” which also isn’t true.
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However…we who do not specifically worship the god of Muslims are infidels. Do you think that you’re going to convince most Muslims that we worship allah…the moon god.

I don’t. Worship the God of the Trinity. Muslims deny the Trinity. There is no way we worship the same God. Muslims worship the great Deceiver that gave Mohammad the quran. He denied the divinity of Jesus. That’s it. Bottom line. Nothing else to say.
 
spn82756 said:
However…we who do not specifically worship the god of Muslims are infidels. Do you think that you’re going to convince most Muslims that we worship allah…the moon god.

I don’t. Worship the God of the Trinity. Muslims deny the Trinity. There is no way we worship the same God. Muslims worship the great Deceiver that gave Mohammad the quran. He denied the divinity of Jesus. That’s it. Bottom line. Nothing else to say.
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I agree wholeheartedly, and I think my other posts on the subject will attest to that. 🙂 I was simply responding to an error in definition of a phrase, that’s all.
 
Byzantine_Wolf said:
I agree wholeheartedly, and I think my other posts on the subject will attest to that. 🙂 I was simply responding to an error in definition of a phrase, that’s all.
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Ah…okay. I misunderstood. Accept my apology. Please. 😊

Steve
 
Kadaveri said:
No it doesn’t… You just made that up. You could also explain why 29:46 of the Qur’an says to the Christians and Jews ‘our God is your God’.
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Quran says that the Holy Bible is corrupted, if so that means the Christians are doing something which is against God, show how can the quote be correct?
 
It says that Muslims, Jews and Christians worship the same God, not that Jews and Christians are right about everything.

And Spn, you better run and tell the 15 million Christian Arabs that for the last 1,900 years they’ve been worshipping a moon God…
 
Kadaveri said:
It says that Muslims, Jews and Christians worship the same God, not that Jews and Christians are right about everything.

And Spn, you better run and tell the 15 million Christian Arabs that for the last 1,900 years they’ve been worshipping a moon God…
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They don’t worship the moon god. They worship the Trinity. They don’t use a cresent moon for their churches. They use a cross of crucifix.

The name allah in islam is small a. In Christianity it is big A. Representing the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

By using your claim…I would have to assume as a Christian that you are referring to Allah as the Triune God. Not the moon god.
 
Go tell the Jews they’re worshipping a false God then. They, like us, reject the Trinity.
 
Kadaveri said:
Go tell the Jews they’re worshipping a false God then. They, like us, reject the Trinity.
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They do worship a god that is false. They are no longer the chosen people. Christians are people of the New Covenant. The covenant set forth forth by Jesus the Christ during the last supper.
 
Then you better go and tell the Holy See (who you’re apparently loyal to) that Jews and Muslims are worshipping a false god, as they seem to have been misinformed.
 
Kadaveri said:
Then you better go and tell the Holy See (who you’re apparently loyal to) that Jews and Muslims are worshipping a false god, they certainly don’t think so.
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The CCC states that you do worship the same God. Now…do you accept the rest of what it says? It says that you worship the same God with a very limited knowledge of God.

Since you want to use the CCC as evidence that you worship the same God…then you have to accept that it also says that you worship with limited knowledge of the True God.

CCC 841 through 845.

I’m glad we’re on the same page and that you’ve accepted Jesus as God.
 
You’re supposed to be the Catholic; it’s you who should be explaining why you don’t follow the Catechism of Catholic Church, not me.
 
Kadaveri said:
You’re supposed to be the Catholic; it’s you who should be explaining why you don’t follow the Catechism of Catholic Church, not me.
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I do follow it. You worship defectively. You don’t know the true God. The Father…Son and Holy Spirit.

Your response was to show no defense. You didn’t ask what I follow. You use the CCC to be critical of me. Now…you see that it is critical of both of us. But I have a redeeming Savior. You don’t
 
Good for you. I assume I won’t hear you saying that Muslims worship a ‘moon god’ again then.

Peace.
 
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