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Along with the previous verse from John, I think this is the main verses the OSAS base their doctrine on.
Romans 8:35 Who then shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation? Or distress? Or famine? Or nakedness? Or danger? Or persecution? Or the sword? 36 (As it is written: For thy sake, we are put to death all the day long. We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.) 37 But in all these things we overcome, because of him that hath loved us. 38 For I am sure that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor might, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

I think this is a common misunderstanding, that conflates God’s love with salvation. The fact that God loves us is not a reflection on our salvation status. God so loved the world that He sent His son to save the world, but we know the whole world is not, and shall not be saved. While we were yet sinners, He died for us, out of HIs love for us. He loves us so much He has created us with free will…He loves us so much He will watch us walk right through the gates of hell.

 Here are a few others I think are related.

2 Corinthians 1:21 And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, 22 and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

There is nothing in this verse that supports OSAS. Yes, in baptism we are sealed by the HS, but one who is sealed can reject his adoption as a son, and return to become a son of perdition. It is possible to come to saving grace in Christ, then to fall from that grace. The deposit, or guarantee of our inheritance that we are given does not necessarily mean that we are going to be united with that inheritance. Anyone can throw away their birthright.

 2 Corinthians 5:5  He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.

This guarantee is not a promise that salvation will certainly happen. Such an interpretation is a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word. It comes from the Hebrew arrhabon and is used to describe a security deposit of money or property that is put down in earnest or pledge of future payment. If a person puts a security deposit on a parcel of land, yet never comes back to complete the transaction or take posession of the land, then they not benefit at all from the earnest payment.

Ephesians 1:13  In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14  who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

Again “until we acquire possession”. Salvation is not ours until the end of this life, and only then if we have fought the good fight, and kept the faith. When we are sealed with the HS, we are placed in a state of grace before God. But we can fall from that grace, in which case, our last state is worse than our first.

So I think the main concept is that none of our actions can save us, so none of our actions condemn us. I don’t think it’s viewed as a license to sin, but a rejection of the need for last rites and final confession so one dies in a state of grace.

The fact that our own actions do not save us has no bearing on whether they can condemn us. In addition to the fact that scripture repeatedly indicates that this is untrue, it is also is flawed reasoning. A bullet cannot bring anyone to life, but it sure can end a life.