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Personally I am a supporter of planned parenthood and I have contributed to them in the past. Recently the Republicans made a show of support for defunding PP by including it in the repeal of Obama care. It naturally didn't pass. Setting aside the difficulties of repealing Obama care, is there some actual administrative reason why they couldn't defund PP? I can see a political motivation for them not to defund PP since they need the pro-lifers to go to the polls and vote Republican.
 
On the contrary, they are motivated to defund PP in order to get Pro-life support. Pro-lifers realize the truth about Planned Parenthood and want it defunded immediately. I would have to assume that the Affordable Care Act has specifics about funding PP in it that would require the repeal of the entire act in order to repeal PP.
 
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Personally I am a supporter of planned parenthood and I have contributed to them in the past.  Recently the Republicans made a show of support for defunding PP by including it in the repeal of Obama care.  It naturally didn't pass.  Setting aside the difficulties of repealing Obama care, is there some actual administrative reason why they couldn't defund PP?  I can see a political motivation for them not to defund PP since they need the pro-lifers to go to the polls and vote Republican.
The longer they go without defending Planned Parenthood, the less likely they are to get reelected. The is especially true after the myriad of evidence of PP’s selling of body parts, among the many, many other immoral things they do.

I think the better question to ask is, if abortion only makes up three percent of their operations, as they have routinely claimed whenever asked, why are they so adamant about continuing to perform abortions? This in spite of the fact it will cost them all the government aide they claim they need to provide the other 97% of the “necessary service” they do because they care about women so much?

It can’t be because they want to make sure people have access to abortion. Sadly, you can get an abortion at almost any hospital.

It can’t be because they want to make sure abortions are safe. PP has an abysmal track record of patient deaths and having to send their patients to hospitals because of internal bleeding. Hospitals are way safer than pretty much any out-patient PP, and they have immediate access to life-saving apparatuses if something goes wrong. In addition to this, we have further evidence that safety is not the issue because when Texas (and other states) tried to enact very basic laws which require the abortionist to have admitting privileges in case something does go wrong; PP did everything in their power to have the law overturned. That’s not the action of an organization that’s worried about patient safety.

So then, if it’s not about access, and it’s not about safety, what is it about?

Hint: $$$.
 
Check out a book called “Unplanned” by Abby Johnson, a former director of Planned Parenthood. It explains some of the administrative and business practices of the organization.
 
setting aside the difficulties of repealing obama care, is there some actual administrative reason why they couldn’t defund pp?
Politics and special interests groups with lots of money defending Planned Parenthood.
 
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Personally I am a supporter of planned parenthood and I have contributed to them in the past.
Have you had an abortion before? Do you even know what happens in an abortion? A woman doesn’t carry a toothbrush or a tumor in her womb.
 
is there some actual administrative reason why they couldn’t defund PP?
I don’t know, but my guess is no, there’s no reason they couldn’t do it administratively.
I can see a political motivation for them not to defund PP since they need the pro-lifers to go to the polls and vote Republican.
Do you mean the Republicans need PP as a rally point? In other words, Republicans keep PP afloat so as to motivate people to vote Republican?
 
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Personally I am a supporter of planned parenthood and I have contributed to them in the past.  Recently the Republicans made a show of support for defunding PP by including it in the repeal of Obama care.  It naturally didn't pass.  Setting aside the difficulties of repealing Obama care, is there some actual administrative reason why they couldn't defund PP?  I can see a political motivation for them not to defund PP since they need the pro-lifers to go to the polls and vote Republican.
While defunding PP alone was worth a vote, the health care bill that was crafted was pretty bad.

I’d say that most people care about healthcare more. That’s not really how I vote, but the whole throw in PP funding into this bill was, I think, see as more of a gimmick.

But I will emphasize whenever there is a chance to stop abortion, it must be done.

Regardless of what you think about PP, the federal government has no business funding them anyways.
 
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Personally I am a supporter of planned parenthood and I have contributed to them in the past.  Recently the Republicans made a show of support for defunding PP by including it in the repeal of Obama care.  It naturally didn't pass.  Setting aside the difficulties of repealing Obama care, is there some actual administrative reason why they couldn't defund PP?  I can see a political motivation for them not to defund PP since they need the pro-lifers to go to the polls and vote Republican.
Pretzel logic.
 
Planned Parenthood is a dump that cares nothing about the rights of preborn females, nor what they are doing to their small, defenseless, helpless female bodies. A society that supports such vileness is just as dumpy.
 
While defending the fetus can we also support mothers and children?

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“Above all, the common outcry, which is justly made on behalf of human rights – for example, the right to health, to home, to work, to family, to culture – is false and illusory if the right to life, the most basic and fundamental right and the condition for all other personal rights, is not defended with maximum determination.” - St Pope John Paul II

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“Above all, the common outcry, which is justly made on behalf of human rights – for example, the right to health, to home, to work, to family, to culture – is false and illusory if the right to life, the most basic and fundamental right and the condition for all other personal rights, is not defended with maximum determination.” - St Pope John Paul II

God Bless

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Josh
Ow about both/and instead of either/or.
 
Think accepting either/or is inherently a contradiction on life.
It’s not, accepting death over the other is inherently a contradiction, as St Pope John Paul perfectly illustrates with the quote above.

God Bless

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It’s not, accepting death over the other is inherently a contradiction, as St Pope John Paul perfectly illustrates with the quote above.

God Bless

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Josh
The respect for life at birth is fundamental but if it is not followed by respect and protection through infancy and childhood it is incomplete, shallow and hypocritical.
 
I see this stressed so often, that being “pro-life” means for all of life, but the meaning of that is so vague to me. To me, sometimes, it seems as though it’s nothing more than a distraction from the cruel reality that a tiny being growing inside of her own mother’s womb is being attacked. What does it mean, exactly? How can anyone follow a child throughout its life until it is eighteen, making certain they have nothing less than an ideal life? I do get sick of it, simply because I feel it is nothing more than trying to dismiss the atrocities inflicted upon these innocent, helpless beings. To most, it seems just a “fetus,” but the reality is that God sees all life the same. Is a five year old child loved less than a ten year old? To me, this is the logic. It’s all right to just snuff her out while she’s still inside the womb, where no one can see her and everyone can just callously “pretend” she’s a nothing, a throwaway piece of garbage that was an inconvenience someone could have done better without. Mother Teresa was a woman who really did care about life at all stages, including inside the womb. Mother Teresa was actually helping children and families, and she cared about both mother and child, yet she also didn’t condone snuffing out a child just because she wouldn’t have an ideal life. Talk about ideal. What kind of a society are we creating for these children? Not much of one, in my honest opinion. Who is really to blame? Blame those who abuse children, blame those who actually dumb down and desensitize, thinking they are educating them well when really they aren’t. We have turned into a society that embraces and obsesses over anything to do with blood, death, gore, and all things satanic. The world we now offer our children allows the most bizarre fantasies to be lived out as a reality, wrong things are demanded as a “right,” and those who try and speak out in the name of morally right are condemned. All of the signs of Jesus’s return are here. It will be any day now, if my prayers are answered. Get me out of this place! I don’t want to be here! I hate it! Mother Teresa actually did care about both mothers and their children, and she didn’t regard a child growing in the womb as a piece of garbage to be thrown out. THAT is what is wrong with this rotten place. We talk about “human rights,” and yet…really? Really? They’re the ones who are incomplete, shallow, and hypocritical. Not those, I believe, who feel every child deserves better than the dumpy, slovenly belief that abortion is a damned sacrament.
 
I see this stressed so often, that being “pro-life” means for all of life, but the meaning of that is so vague to me. To me, sometimes, it seems as though it’s nothing more than a distraction from the cruel reality that a tiny being growing inside of her own mother’s womb is being attacked. What does it mean, exactly? How can anyone follow a child throughout its life until it is eighteen, making certain they have nothing less than an ideal life? I do get sick of it, simply because I feel it is nothing more than trying to dismiss the atrocities inflicted upon these innocent, helpless beings. To most, it seems just a “fetus,” but the reality is that God sees all life the same. Is a five year old child loved less than a ten year old? To me, this is the logic. It’s all right to just snuff her out while she’s still inside the womb, where no one can see her and everyone can just callously “pretend” she’s a nothing, a throwaway piece of garbage that was an inconvenience someone could have done better without. Mother Teresa was a woman who really did care about life at all stages, including inside the womb. Mother Teresa was actually helping children and families, and she cared about both mother and child, yet she also didn’t condone snuffing out a child just because she wouldn’t have an ideal life. Talk about ideal. What kind of a society are we creating for these children? Not much of one, in my honest opinion. Who is really to blame? Blame those who abuse children, blame those who actually dumb down and desensitize, thinking they are educating them well when really they aren’t. We have turned into a society that embraces and obsesses over anything to do with blood, death, gore, and all things satanic. The world we now offer our children allows the most bizarre fantasies to be lived out as a reality, wrong things are demanded as a “right,” and those who try and speak out in the name of morally right are condemned. All of the signs of Jesus’s return are here. It will be any day now, if my prayers are answered. Get me out of this place! I don’t want to be here! I hate it! Mother Teresa actually did care about both mothers and their children, and she didn’t regard a child growing in the womb as a piece of garbage to be thrown out. THAT is what is wrong with this rotten place. We talk about “human rights,” and yet…really? Really? They’re the ones who are incomplete, shallow, and hypocritical. Not those, I believe, who feel every child deserves better than the dumpy, slovenly belief that abortion is a sacrament.
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