For Protesters (aka: Protestants)

[TriuneUnity]

I can certainly respect this statement (though we would disagree, perhaps, on what is the pure teaching of the Word of God - but that’s ok, still brothers in Christ - much better to have positive faith rather than negative faith.

Perhaps I’m slow on the uptake, but I didn’t “get” the meaning of your reply that I must have thought he was Episcopalian, however .

Brian

If you profess faith in Christ as having died and risen for your sins I can consider you a brother.

On the second part…think V Gene Robinson

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Protestants protest because they love to protest about everything under the sun? Sometimes i also feel that the Catholic Church cares too much about the Protestant’s salvation (since Protestants themselves don’t seem to care).

But being as She is, the Church is after all, Christ’s testimony on earth. I guess it will be Her never-ending job to remind those who profess to be christians on how they should practice orthodox Christianity. Sad thing is, the Church always gets mocked at, just as Jesus had to put up with mockery.

I’m not so sure. I think we Catholics sometimes flatter ourselves thinking that every Baptist, Assembly of God follower, Lutheran, and Calvinist wakes up Sunday mornings in the mood to “protest” Catholicism and all of their energy is focused in disproving Catholicism. Honestly, these folks mostly are in their denomination because their mom and dad brought them up that way just as cradle Catholics are also in such a state. Most baptists I know may disagree with Catholicism but they don’t give it much thought? They simply follow the rules of their denomination. I don’t think there is much “protesting” going on within protestantism these days?

I think apologitically-minded EWTN-watching Catholics seem more eager to mention protestantism day-in-day-out and analyze their shortcomings than they are trying to ‘protest’ us sometimes.

 

[tGette]

gurneyhalleck1:
I appreciate your great response!

Robbinson and TriuneUnity:
Yeah…I guess I was ignorant to that joke too. I was too ashamed to ask though…

 

[Robbinson]

If you profess faith in Christ as having died and risen for your sins I can consider you a brother.

On the second part…think V Gene Robinson

I do indeed brother.

No relation to the Episcopalian bishop.

Blessings,

Brian

 

[TriuneUnity]

I do indeed brother.

No relation to the Episcopalian bishop.

Blessings,

Brian

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

So Protestants care about their salvation? Really? So what does the Baptist think of infant baptism? Is it necessary for the infant’s salvation or is it not?

This is outrageous. Do you really think protestants don’t care about their salvation? Have you met or interacted with any protestants? I know so many of these folks who go to constant Bible studies, outreaches, do volunteer work, visit shut-ins, go on MISSIONS overseas, worship every Sunday, and pray far more than I do. It is unacceptable to presume to know if an individual “cares” about their salvation just because they’re not Catholic. That is Pharisaic and dangerously judgmental. Catholicism itself makes it clear in the catechism that protestants and non-Christians have the possibility of salvation. I personally hope they attain it and would never dare to presume they don’t want it! Wow!

 

[cathopologist]

This is outrageous. Do you really think protestants don’t care about their salvation?

There are some Protestants who do not practice their faith religiously (or faithfully). Hence the remark. Likewise, this is surely not limited to Protestants only, but cafeteria-Catholics as well.

Have you met or interacted with any protestants?

Yes, my wife (former Protestant), fiends of the family, etc. I don’t live in a make-believe world you know.

That is Pharisaic and dangerously judgmental. Catholicism itself makes it clear in the catechism that protestants and non-Christians have the possibility of salvation. I personally hope they attain it and would never dare to presume they don’t want it! Wow!

If i hurt your feelings or anyone else for that matter, i do sincerely apologize.

 

[cathopologist]

As to infant Baptism - Baptists believe you have to be of an age when you are able to understand what Baptism means and chose it freely - that’s why no infant Baptism. They believe God’s grace will “save” those who die before they reach that age. Please note I am speaking generally, I do not profess to know how all Baptists think.

Some (if not, most) Baptists believe in the OSAS, don’t they?

 

[ChristianKnight]

Some (if not, most) Baptists believe in the OSAS, don’t they?

What is OSAS? I probably know what it is, but no clue what the initials mean.

 

[cathopologist]

What is OSAS? I probably know what it is, but no clue what the initials mean.

Once Saved Always Saved.

 

[AnAtheist]

partly because the original context of the term Protestant has been lost to the mists of history.

Obviously it did. “Protestant” does not mean protesting against the Church or any faith but protesting against the Emperor’s decision 1529 to take back religious freedom granted to them in 1526.

 

[Lost_Again]

Tgette and Cathaopologist:

I hate to say this but the attitude in the Baptist church I’ve been attending for the last five years is that they care very much about the Catholic church. They have way too many people that are worried about “those poor Catholics”, or how they feel they must “witness to Catholics to save them from damnation”. Our Pastor even did a series contrasting Christianity and Catholicism, (and of course how Catholics are wrong). Thats when I first started becoming an apologist. Its also when I feel I turned the corner on my protestant beliefs.

When I left the CC, I just wanted to have a persoanl relationship with God without pounds of rules and regulations on how I was supposed to find him. Instead I have found over the last five years that as much as they try to deny it, the Protestants have just as much legalism and traditionalism of their own that they adhere to!
Funny how many Catholic traditions I have seen in various “Protestant” churches.

In my case…Who knows… I may just move to the mountains… I’m sure I can find God there without someone telling me “do this, do that, stand up, kneel down, genuflect, mumble latin responses that you don’t comprehend like everyone else, etc. etc. etc”

I get asked a lot "Well if you feel that way why are you still in a protestant church. The answer is simple (and complicated) My wife of 29 years is a Baptist. She kept her promise to the church and raised our kids Catholic. She sat through mass and took the kids to all the functions, heck she was a better Catholic than I was! Now that our kids are raised I’m trying to be a good husband and let her attend the church of her youth. She has no animosity towards catholics but does not want to convert. I figure she did it for me so the least I can do is do the same for her.
Simple right?

What are you kidding???

The complicated side is that according to the Catechism of the church if I don’t agree with ALL of the teachings of the church I am a “heretic”. I am one of those guys with very old fashioned standards and I had a choice. I could sit in the pews and be a hypocrite like so many other Catholis I know that practice birth control, or get drunk, and cheat on their wives, etc.

Or I could leave…

Not wanting to be a hypocrite, I left…

 

[O.S.Luke]

You have to admit, by choosing to not be Catholic is an external sign that you would prefer the Catholic Church to be done away with. (Please tell me if I am wrong.)

I’m sorry… but you’re wrong, tGette. Just because I don’t choose something doesn’t mean I want the Catholic Church done away with.

Why in the world would I want the Catholic Church done away with? That would contradict church law of the denomination I am a part of, as we acknowledge that we are only one branch of the church catholic. And, as we have a Eucharistic sharing agreement with both the Lutheran Church and the Episcopalian Church, we certainly are not saying that we would want those churches done away with.

I guess I’m confused by your statement.