For Teens and Other Young-ish People

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I’ve seen a lot of people comment on this before.

How many of you guys feel the Tridentine Latin Mass is just generally more beautiful and more reverent than the Ordinary Form? I’ll be one to say that I totally think so (I’m 14 or 15 or something), though I don’t think the OF is “rebellious” or “evil” or anything.

Coming from a Protestant background, I think the reason so many Catholics are drawn to praise-and-worship music in the NO is because, well, the NO is in English and Protestants (unlike Catholics) had hundreds of years to achieve a spirited form of worship. Unfortunately, losing the TLM meant losing a piece of Church history, and a beautiful practice unique to the Catholic Church that drew people of all backgrounds.

Now it’s back to some degree and I hope to attend one at a cathedral downtown sometime soon. (I’ll have to actually pay attention in Latin now. lol)

But I’m just curious, how many teens and other young-ish peeps like the Latin Mass in particular?
 
St_Aloysius said:
I’ve seen a lot of people comment on this before.

How many of you guys feel the Tridentine Latin Mass is just generally more beautiful and more reverent than the Ordinary Form? I’ll be one to say that I totally think so (I’m 14 or 15 or something), though I don’t think the OF is “rebellious” or “evil” or anything.

Coming from a Protestant background, I think the reason so many Catholics are drawn to praise-and-worship music in the NO is because, well, the NO is in English and Protestants (unlike Catholics) had hundreds of years to achieve a spirited form of worship. Unfortunately, losing the TLM meant losing a piece of Church history, and a beautiful practice unique to the Catholic Church that drew people of all backgrounds.

Now it’s back to some degree and I hope to attend one at a cathedral downtown sometime soon. (I’ll have to actually pay attention in Latin now. lol)

But I’m just curious, how many teens and other young-ish peeps like the Latin Mass in particular?
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I pretty much share your view. Since I’ve been going to the NO for the majority of my life, I don’t feel it’s ‘evil’ or irreverent or anything. But I do love the TLM! It’s so beautiful and solemn, plus I like picking out the random Latin bits that I remember. 😉
As for the praise-and-worship music… I like it just fine- outside of Mass. Whenever I hear modern music played during the liturgy, it just seems like they’re trying to make the Mass “cooler” in the eyes of teens/young people, at the price of reverence. I don’t believe in changing the Mass to make it more like a Protestant liturgy (no offense to Protestants!).
That said, IMO, the NO can be just as beautiful as the TLM when done nicely.
God bless!
 
I grew up with the ordinary form too, but after attending my first TLM in 2005, I can only fully immerse myself in prayer during the ordinary form if the Mass is reverent: That means a serious priest and serious (for the most part) parishioners.

Luckily for me, I get to go to a parish staffed by Opus Dei priests for weekday Mass (ordinary form), and on Sundays I go to St. John Cantius for Latin Mass! 😃 I get the best of both worlds.

And I love praise and worship as long as it’s done outside Mass too. 😃
 
I like the ordinary done correctly, reverantly, and with more traditional music.

Of course, as long as Jesus is there-body, blood, soul, and divinity…that’s more than enough for me to love.
 
Agree with everyone else. I’ll take a reverent NO, but much prefer the EF.
 
i love them equally. i do think the TLM is alot more beautiful, but I can actually follow the ordinary, and i feel like i’m taking part in it. there are ups and downs of both.

i have all kind of modern worship music on my i-pod! i make sure it does not contridict catholic teaching, but i do find it inappropiate during mass. look at my blog!
 
BayernAnhaenger said:
Agree with everyone else. I’ll take a reverent NO, but much prefer the EF.
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Agreed. I was born, baptized, raised and confirmed in the OF. After some time in the spiritual desert, I’ll have to thank the EF (along with once attending a Byzantine Divine Liturgy and an awesome priest in my OF home parish) helping 'bring me back". 🙂

Although I have a devotion to the EF (and attend it most of the time, and find it engaging and contemplative), I’d be happy with a properly offered OF Mass (as said by Fr. Fessio and EWTN, etc) that promotes the same 👍 :highprayer: :crossrc:
 
Personally, I prefer the NO, primarily because I grew up with it–I was born 9 years after Vatican II–and I’m less comfortable with a more…superficially complex…Mass. I say that because it looks more complicated at first, but then you realize that the NO rubrics dictate much that often doesn’t happen…

Ultimately, I’d be happier if we’d reach a consensus on one Rite, promulgate the thing, enforce it firmly, and get on with life. But that’s just me, always looking to simplify things, the better to well-catechize the entire Catholic faithful, thus to influence the nation in a worthy direction. I’m not real fond of all the discord we have going on.

On the other had, I’ve been to a few too many NOs that you barely realized they were having the Eucharist.

John
 
Unfortunately I’ve never been to a Latin Mass, and because I’m new to the forums, I’m not quite up to date on everyone’s abbreviations… TLM, NO, OF, etc. etc. I

I would love to go to a Latin Mass sometime, though! One of the things that I love about Catholicism is its Catholic-ness… in other words how universal it is. I’ve been to a Spanish Mass before, and even though I may not have understood everything they were saying, I knew what was going on because, no matter where I go, the Mass remains the same, despite a few nuances.

Anyway, hopefully I’ll find my way to a Latin Mass sometime next semester.

Oh, and I just wanted to point out that your poll may be a bit skewed due to the fact that the majority of people on the CAF appear to be more traditionalist.
 
I clicked OF because I have not been to a TLM yet. I would love to go to one. I’m more than 100% for the traditional way. I Just haven’t gotten a chance to a experience Tridentine Latin mass. Now I have been to a very Traditional mass before. But it was in English. Very beautiful it was. I don’t mind new songs. But please not in mass.
 
RavenousWolf said:
Unfortunately I’ve never been to a Latin Mass, and because I’m new to the forums, I’m not quite up to date on everyone’s abbreviations… TLM, NO, OF, etc. etc. I
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Sorry about all the jargon! I can help you with a few: TLM= Traditional Latin Mass (at least that’s what I’ve always understood), NO= Novus Ordo, or the Mass which is most commonly found nowadays.
 
I prefer the OF, because I find english as a language more beautiful than latin. I find that the ending system in latin makes it sound disjointed, while english is more flowing (mainly because of the greater number of unstressed pronouns and articles). Of course, this is just my personal emotional preference, I think each form is equally good.
 
I, for one, like the TLM and cheese almost equally…sorry cheese, you can’t be #1.

I am a youngish person, just turned 22. I am a freshman in college, so I am surrounded by youngish people who help me subtract a few years from my maturity level so that I may pretend to be 18 again. It is fun.

Many of these friends of mine also happen to be altar servers aiming for the priesthood (We’re at Belmont Abbey College). Two of these guys let me go with them to Myrtle Beach to attend my first ever Latin Mass. It was sweet. I loved it all. They got to serve and the other girl and I got to experience something that many young people have not. I love the Latin Mass and prefer it to the NO, but the NO is all I can get these days without driving 3 hours out of the way. I am happy with both a well done NO and the TLM.👍
 
I hope that no one uses the results of this poll to try to draw conclusions.

The only valid conclusion that you can draw from this poll is that the teenaged and young posters who read the Traditional Section of Catholic Answers Forums prefer the TLM.

In order to draw a valid conclusion about the Mass preferences of teenagers and young people in general, you must take a poll from a very large cross-section of Catholics, including those who have never even heard of Catholic Answers Forums.

You must also phrase the question carefully. There may be many young people who like the TLM, but prefer to attend NO on a regular basis. So the question should be phrased, “Which Mass would you prefer to attend on a regular basis?”
 
I like the masses equally, because I have realized that the Novus Ordo can be celebrated just like the TLM with traditional music, reverance, and gregorian chant just like VII called for.

I am blessed to belong to a parish with traitional priests who actually care about Canon Law and Traditionalism. The Novus Ordo is based on the TLM and if you compare the two, they are very similar, I dont see why people think that because of VII they had the right to smash the high altars and slap a white paint job all over the church, get rid of their stations of the cross, and move the tabernacle over to a side altar. These are just some of many abuses that go on, but I just wanted to say that I like them both equally because they can be celebrated very similarly.
 
I might be a bit old for you, but well, I remember how things were a couple of years ago and then I wouldn’t have been, right? I generally think Latin inspires some piety. However, Latin is no Biblical language and reasons for its institution as the language of the liturgy were practical back in the time when Christian communities were switching from Greek. The abandonment of Latin is no blasphemy whatsoever. It’s good that people can hear the mass in their own language. My preference is to go to a Latin pauline mass if there’s one available without too much difficulty, although I will often prefer to attend mass at my own parish and I’ve only ever witnessed a single private mass in Latin over many years here. It does feel special, perhaps for partly personal and emotional reasons - I consider myself traditional (notice lowercase “t”), I’m a history geek and a political conservative… in a certain sense Latin is tough, “hardcore” and an opposition to the cheap and morally lax culture of the day.
 
Cat said:
I hope that no one uses the results of this poll to try to draw conclusions.

The only valid conclusion that you can draw from this poll is that the teenaged and young posters who read the Traditional Section of Catholic Answers Forums prefer the TLM.

In order to draw a valid conclusion about the Mass preferences of teenagers and young people in general, you must take a poll from a very large cross-section of Catholics, including those who have never even heard of Catholic Answers Forums.

You must also phrase the question carefully. There may be many young people who like the TLM, but prefer to attend NO on a regular basis. So the question should be phrased, “Which Mass would you prefer to attend on a regular basis?”
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Very true. Sounds like some of the classes I took in college. Anyway, out of curiosity, are there any other threads on the forums where the younger members hang out?
 
Try the watercooler They have a teen thread but sometimes other young people hang out around there too. I never see any threads specifically for early 20 twenties. You aut to start one. Best place is Clubhouse.
 
Well, I like them both in different ways. The TLM is certainly beautiful and reverent, and I really wish that reverence was carried over into the OF. But to be honest I prefer to attend an OF Mass more. Being able to actually take part in the responses (and the music) greatly helps me to focus on God. If you asked me what I really prefered though, it would have to be the Byzantine Divine Liturgy.
 
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