For the men who Lust!

[d40gmar]

As a man that has struggled with lust and has gone to 12 step groups to help with this I will say that just like the alcoholic, there are some men and women out there that do have a big problem with lust. It is the way our brain was made. I have been fortunate enough to have found salvation with the help of my Lord and Savior Jesus and the Catholic Church and have been able to control this disease( yes disease) for the past almost 6 years. However, there are many who struggle very much with this. I don’t know if this really contributes to this thread or not. I guess all I wanted to do is say to all those men and women who strugle with lust on a daily basis Trust in God. Put your mind body and soul in the hands of God. He will save you and help you deal with this. Pray to Him every day and to our Saviour Jesus Christ for relief of this disease. It will happen. God bless you I will pray for you as well

 

[deb1]

There’s probably a market for that too though…

I once watched a news report on a woman with exceptionally hairy legs that she never shaved. Apparently there were men willing to pay her money to continue to have so much leg hair. Very strange.

 

[teachccd]

I consider it my Christian duty to protect men from temptation so I will grow my nails long and curvy to dissuade anyone from lusting for my feet.

Talk about killing two birds with one stone! Now you can tap dance barefoot and remove any chance of temptation!!

 

[Ecce_homo_1]

I once watched a news report on a woman with exceptionally hairy legs that she never shaved. Apparently there were men willing to pay her money to continue to have so much leg hair. Very strange.

Yeah well if you can name it there’s someone out there who can be tempted to lust by it. I think that’s why with questions like these it’s simple common sense, you’ll never please everyone.

Wear clothes that don’t flaunt your breasts, buttocks, or thighs as a general rule. That doesn’t mean you have to hide your figure or look ugly, but simply common sense.

 

[deb1]

Talk about killing two birds with one stone! Now you can tap dance barefoot and remove any chance of temptation!!

 

[deb1]

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Wear clothes that don’t flaunt your breasts, buttocks, or thighs as a general rule. That doesn’t mean you have to hide your figure or look ugly, but simply common sense.

That seems to me a pretty common sense approach to modesty.

 

[teachccd]

I once watched a news report on a woman with exceptionally hairy legs that she never shaved. Apparently there were men willing to pay her money to continue to have so much leg hair. Very strange.

Great! Now as a man with hairy legs I need to cover up in the event that one of these guys sees me from the knees down. Unless, of course, they’re willing to throw a couple of bucks my way. I know that I’m off topic. I apologize and I’m off…

 

[rpp]

I consider it my Christian duty to protect men from temptation so I will grow my nails long and curvy to dissuade anyone from lusting for my feet.

I have memories of a picture from India…:bigyikes:

 

[JimG]

Off topic again, but stock analyst Ralph Rotnem some time back suggested hemlines as an indicator for stock market trends. (the hemline indicator) When hemlines were rising during the flapper era of the roaring 20’s, so was the market. Hemlines declined along with stocks after the crash of '29. So maybe short skirts are a good thing?

 

[aboverubies]

I’m confused as to why women are so offended at the idea that we are called to dress modestly. And by “modest” I mean a Chrisitian interpretation of the word not a Muslim interpretation etc. The head to toe style covering is not part of our Christian culture. Deb1 was spot on with her description of the balanced view of modesty and attractiveness.

The original question was posed to Catholic men struggling with lust. So I am assuming that this means men who have admitted to problems in this area and are taking responsibilty to overcome them. As opposed to men who are blaming immodestly dressed women for all of their struggles.

So why be offended at the idea of helping them out? If I invited a friend over for dinner who happened to be struggling with alcoholism wouldn’t I want to do all I could to help them out? Wouldn’t I abstain from drinking in front of them so as not to tempt them with an occasion of sin? Or would I say “Hey that’s your sin, your problem not mine!” “Why should I miss out on a drink just because you can’t control yourself? Cheers big ears!”

 

[deb1]

I’m confused as to why women are so offended at the idea that we are called to dress modestly. And by “modest” I mean a Chrisitian interpretation of the word not a Muslim interpretation etc. The head to toe style covering is not part of our Christian culture. Deb1 was spot on with her description of the balanced view of modesty and attractiveness.

The original question was posed to Catholic men struggling with lust. So I am assuming that this means men who have admitted to problems in this area and are taking responsibilty to overcome them. As opposed to men who are blaming immodestly dressed women for all of their struggles.

So why be offended at the idea of helping them out? If I invited a friend over for dinner who happened to be struggling with alcoholism wouldn’t I want to do all I could to help them out? Wouldn’t I abstain from drinking in front of them so as not to tempt them with an occasion of sin? Or would I say “Hey that’s your sin, your problem not mine!” “Why should I miss out on a drink just because you can’t control yourself? Cheers big ears!”

My guess is that because there are some extreme views on modesty within the Christian community that some people automatically equate the word modesty with those extreme views.

 

[aboverubies]

My guess is that because there are some extreme views on modesty within the Christian community that some people automatically equate the word modesty with those extreme views.

Agreed. Perhaps we could also substitute the word “submission” for modesty in the above sentence?

 

[deb1]

Agreed. Perhaps we could also substitute the word “submission” for modesty in the above sentence?

Yes. And I have to admit that there are times when I hear the word ‘submission’ and recall all the extreme views that I have heard in the past and then don’t fully listen to what the speaker is actually trying to say.

 

[rpp]

My guess is that because there are some extreme views on modesty within the Christian community that some people automatically equate the word modesty with those extreme views.

Thank you AboveRubies and Deb1 for bringing some sanity here!

I am man. I can look at woman and appreciate her beauty without lusting after her. I do that by admiring the whole person. On the other hand, if when she is, er, uh, under dressed, that distracts from appreciating her beauty.

Ladies, here is the point. We men like it when you dress nicely. We really do. And that includes chaste men. What I, as a chaste man, causes me difficulties is when a women dresses in a way that accentuates her “sex appeal” rather than her as a whole person.

 

[raggakitten]

I don’t buy it. Watch a man swiching through TV stations with a remote in his hand. As he comes across channels with scantily clad women he almost can’t help himself to not slow the process of clicking down. Watch a woman do the same, if she comes across a channel with a scantily clad man she either doesn’t notice or she almost grimises. Justr picture the man on the public beach with his speedo on. My experience is women laugh at the sight, not lust. It is pretty funny to look at.

Maybe I’m in the minority here but I don’t think women are nearly as enticed by nearly naked men as men are by nearly naked women. It’s ho hum.

It’s funny, men who are not attempting to lead a more virtuous life consider a glance at a woman in immodest dress a form of entertainment, almost a refreshment like a donut with a cup of coffee. Men who do attempt to lead a virtuous life consider a glance at a woman in immodest dress much like a bad memory or thought. He gets a bit of a painful feeling in stomach. He tries to shake the thought but a part of him wants to dwell on it.

I personally hope to discover in the next life why God made the desire so disproportional with the need. Why give us something so powerfully desireable only to forbid it? Maybe it’s God’s way of making the end of our earthly walk not be something to dread. It’s His way of saying, “you have suffered enough, now come home and I’ll relieve you of this torment”. Anyone who thinks it’s just a simple matter of the will is mistaken. It’s a life long battle and present day society only throws fuel on the fire. I sometimes welcome old age. And to be honest, sometimes miss the days when I looked on this as a donut. They were easier in some ways.

Well…

It depends on the woman I think… Because I DO feel tempted by men dressed improperly… Like those that go to the gym and then start wearing clothes that let women appreciate ALL their muscles… They do it on purpose, and in my case it works, I try to fight it though, with prayer and all, but I think it’s wrong to say that only women are trying to tempt men by dressing improperly…

MAYBE men are more prone to notice indicent dressed women, BUT it doesn’t mean that some of us won’t feel tempted by men that dress to attract women too.
I think WE ALL should set the example.

 

[Jay2]

I figure as long as you like it and aren’t causing car accidents it’s okay by me.

In HS a buddy of mine’s dad owned a body/collision shop. It was tucked in along a busy street, with 100’s of other business signs.

He got the great idea one winter to have a female mannequin (in a bikini) holding a “sandwich-board” type sign out on the sidewalk in front of the shop! Trust me… he generated a LOT of business for himself!

The city made him remove “her”…

In reply to the original question:
Tall curvy brunettes - regardless of attire.

 

[Wolseley]

Old age is definitely a blessing that makes it easier to fight against.

This is very true. Now that I’m closer to 50 than 40, I have to admit that where even ten years ago looking at a certain type of advertisement would send me into unbearable transports of sexual lust, the same ad today would bear no more interest to me than a pyramid of oranges in a supermarket. There are simply just more interesting and important things to think about.

Food, for example. Sleep. Books. Coffee. Old movies.

However, what helped me through that stage was realizing that lust is a tool that Satan uses to destroy Christians, and while he was influencing everybody from advertisers to teenage girls to sign on with his program, I realized that I didn’t have to be manipulated.

Sure, maybe I turn a page in a magazine and I’m confronted with a Frederick’s of Hollywood ad, but that doesn’t mean that I have to automatically allow myself to follow the reaction which the ad was designed to produce. I’m not one of Dr. Pavlov’s trained dogs.

Recognizing the ultimate source of all this stuff, getting mad at it, and not allowing yourself to be duped, is a large part of the battle.