For the men who Lust!

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I would like to hear what are the biggest temptations for men to lust. I think this is news to any woman, and I believe it would really help them understand what to avoid as to not tempt a man.
should we all dress like this so all you “men” dont get tempted? as it would seem that everything on God’s Green Earth is tempting you guys 😦
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There is a distinction between lust (a sin) and temptation to lust (not a sin). In any case the level of temptation ‘induced’ is generally proportionate to ones own level of self control. Someone who routinely lusts when exposed to temptation needs to retrain his will and take appropriate measures to avoid these near occasions as well as praying for fortitude in this area.
By level of temptation to lust being proportionate, I mean that someone who leads a continually chaste life and constantly strives for purity actually finds provocatively dressed women to be repulsive.
It is true that women throughout the ages have known that they can get men’s attention by dressing immodestly. The catch, it is not the pure and chaste men’s attention that they get. I think women need to realize that the level of ‘respect’ they can demand is directly linked to how they present themselves. 😉

In Christ - J.M.J.
mapleoak
 
Totaly agree with mapleoak!

To bad the ones that dress conservatively are usually already married or engaged.

Sorry about the off topic.

God’s humble servent.
John AH.
 
…wow, they had great legs. In very short shorts. After an ice storm.
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If it was cold enough for an ice storm, how could you tell they were men???😃 😛

(Sorry, couldn’t resist…)
 
BEattitude said:
I would like to hear what are the biggest temptations for men to lust. I think this is news to any woman, and I believe it would really help them understand what to avoid as to not tempt a man.
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As a High School student…Id have to be honest and say its clothing.

At least in my case, its very hard to completly ignore certain things if everywhere I look there is a big reminder of it.:eek:

Clothing is meant to cover the body people.
 
We can’t go back to 1900. Back then men looked at ladies ankles. Men are attracted to physical attributes, I notice good looking ladies but will not let my thoughts wonder… God made us to be attracted to good looks.
 
It seems like even the wind blowing the wrong way will do it!
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Yes, I will go along with that 😉

I think that it is very hard for a man not to. It seems that meeting someone with whom one has an affinity can set it off.

I also think think that it is important to have an understanding partner who ‘never says no’. My wife and I have a strict rule that we ‘never say no to the other’, That way, one just does not have the inclination to think about lusting after anyone.

I used to lust after my wife. I did not consider that to be wrong.
 
Mijoy2 said:
I don’t buy it. Watch a man swiching through TV stations with a remote in his hand. As he comes across channels with scantily clad women he almost can’t help himself to not slow the process of clicking down. Watch a woman do the same, if she comes across a channel with a scantily clad man she either doesn’t notice or she almost grimises. Justr picture the man on the public beach with his speedo on. My experience is women laugh at the sight, not lust. It is pretty funny to look at. 🙂

Maybe I’m in the minority here but I don’t think women are nearly as enticed by nearly naked men as men are by nearly naked women. It’s ho hum.

It’s funny, men who are not attempting to lead a more virtuous life consider a glance at a woman in immodest dress a form of entertainment, almost a refreshment like a donut with a cup of coffee. Men who do attempt to lead a virtuous life consider a glance at a woman in immodest dress much like a bad memory or thought. He gets a bit of a painful feeling in stomach. He tries to shake the thought but a part of him wants to dwell on it.

I personally hope to discover in the next life why God made the desire so disproportional with the need. Why give us something so powerfully desireable only to forbid it? Maybe it’s God’s way of making the end of our earthly walk not be something to dread. It’s His way of saying, “you have suffered enough, now come home and I’ll relieve you of this torment”. Anyone who thinks it’s just a simple matter of the will is mistaken. It’s a life long battle and present day society only throws fuel on the fire. I sometimes welcome old age. And to be honest, sometimes miss the days when I looked on this as a donut. They were easier in some ways.
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You seem to be making a mountain out of a mole hill here. If I remember it was the WOMEN who got into buying their young daughters dresses in the 60s to go with “make love not war” clothing on.
Women have always known how to entice men sexually thats why they like to show their leggs, like to put on make up, like to wear clothing to entice men.
And why because God made women with a strong desire to have children, to nurture children to bring children into this world. It’s all natural, but satan has put the word sex in their in the place of sharing God’s love with your spouse.

Surely the two women who are for womens lib here realise that this is not a “men against women” no it is a fight against satans want to gain as many souls as possible for hell. Men we must realise this don’t make this into an futile argument. Keep our mind on God’s wish that we love one another NOT lust.
God bless
littleone
 
…Reading this thread you’d think that women never have problems with lust at all…

Anywho, I think it’s a tad unreasonable to put the blame on women for causing men to lust. It’s a free country, and people are allowed to express themselves how they see fit. If someone wants to dress “immodestly” (And sometimes I get the impression, people will consider close to anything “immodest” if they want to) then that’s their choice. It’s a bit of a generalization saying that women solely dress to attract men. Personally, I dress in what I think looks good and what I feel comfortable in. If a male can’t stop himself from lusting every time he sees a woman not dressed like a nun, then I think that’s his problem and his lack of self control. I don’t know why we have to blame women for some men’s faults. I personally think some men would lust even if they saw a woman dressed in a sack, sadly, so let’s stop with the blame-game.
 
Creiddylad said:
…Reading this thread you’d think that women never have problems with lust at all…

Anywho, I think it’s a tad unreasonable to put the blame on women for causing men to lust. It’s a free country, and people are allowed to express themselves how they see fit. If someone wants to dress “immodestly” (And sometimes I get the impression, people will consider close to anything “immodest” if they want to) then that’s their choice. It’s a bit of a generalization saying that women solely dress to attract men. Personally, I dress in what I think looks good and what I feel comfortable in. If a male can’t stop himself from lusting every time he sees a woman not dressed like a nun, then I think that’s his problem and his lack of self control. I don’t know why we have to blame women for some men’s faults. I personally think some men would lust even if they saw a woman dressed in a sack, sadly, so let’s stop with the blame-game.
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While some of what you said is true, that does not mean women should attend mass in some skin-tight or revealing clothing.

On the other hand, to dress like a Mulim woman is equally inappropriate.

Yes, there will always be men who will react, well, improperly. On the other hand, provocative dress will cause inappropriate reactions in well-meaning men.

That is the standard. How will a well meaning man react?

This does not mean a woman should dress dowdy. What is does mean is that a well-meaning man would want you to leave a fair bit to the imagination.

Ladies, if someone is going to lust after you, make them work to do it! Pease.

Remember, we can sin by cooperating in sin. Dressing provacatively is cooperating in sin.
 
even if a girl covers herself up, its still easy, for some men, to lust…woman may be covered, but they’ll still be curvy, if you get my drift…I think it comes down to the man and how willing he is to avoid it…it takes a lot of self control
 
rpp said:
While some of what you said is true, that does not mean women should attend mass in some skin-tight or revealing clothing.

On the other hand, to dress like a Mulim woman is equally inappropriate.

Yes, there will always be men who will react, well, improperly. On the other hand, provocative dress will cause inappropriate reactions in well-meaning men.

That is the standard. How will a well meaning man react?

This does not mean a woman should dress dowdy. What is does mean is that a well-meaning man would want you to leave a fair bit to the imagination.

Ladies, if someone is going to lust after you, make them work to do it! Pease.

Remember, we can sin by cooperating in sin. Dressing provacatively is cooperating in sin.
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I never mentioned anything about mass at all. I don’t think that comes into it. Anyone who lusts in the middle of mass has problems of their own anyway.
I think people should take responsibility for their own actions, or thoughts or whatnot. It is no-one’s fault but the men (or women for that matter) who lust. Blaming others is just attempting to cover up our own faults. You can’t say someone is cooperating is sin by how they choose to dress and express themselves.
I mean, we live in a sex-saturated world… that’s the way it is, and it’s probably not going to be changing anytime soon. You have to learn to master self-control, and you have to be chaste in spite of enticing external influences. Resistance is the key. If you are really strongly against lust, then you should be able to stick to your guns even in the face of challenge. We only know how truly strong we are in the face of challenge. I guess it shows weakness of character when someone can’t even control themselves when they see a woman dressed in slightly revealing clothing.
 
From The Compendium of The Catechism of The Catholic Church
(St Paul’s Publications 2005) pg 153:

THE NINTH COMMANDMENT:
YOU SHALL NOT COVET YOUR NEIGHBOUR’S WIFE

530. What Are The Requirements For Purity
“Purity requires modesty which, while protecting the intimate center of the person, expresses the sensitivity of chastity. It guides how one looks at others and behaves toward them in conformity with the dignity of persons and their communion. Purity frees one from widespread eroticism and avoids those things which foster morbid curiosity. Purity also requires a *purification of the social climate *by means of a constant struggle against moral permissiveness which is founded on an erroneous conception of human freedom.”

(NB Not my italics.)

It would seem that the Catechism places the responsibilty for maintaining a pure heart on all of us. A free country perhaps (well the US anyway) but if we wish to be a citizen of Heaven are we really free to dress with no care of the possible consequences for our fellow countrymen (or women 😛 )?
 
Creiddylad said:
I guess it shows weakness of character when someone can’t even control themselves when they see a woman dressed in slightly revealing clothing.
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I think that might be what this thread is all about…trying to find out how we as women can assist our brothers in Christ in their struggles in this area? Sorry if I’m way off base! :o
 
aboverubies said:
I think that might be what this thread is all about…trying to find out how we as women can assist our brothers in Christ in their struggles in this area? Sorry if I’m way off base! :o
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People speak as if women are the only ones capable of dressing immodestly. Guys are definitely capable of this as well, but people tend to pay less attention too it. Those extra few minutes at the gym to perfect those abs just to catch the attention of people at the beach? Sound familiar? Many guys do this yet it’s passed over and women are blamed for the smallest detail of perceived “immodesty.”

Telling people how they can and can’t dress just because it bothers someone or leads them to do something is assigning blame. Pureness of heart is strictly up to the person the heart belongs to. If they are incapable of looking at a person and not lusting over them regardless of how the person is dressed, they need to think about something else, don’t dwell on the thought. This comes with time and practice, though.
 
Gwythr said:
Telling people how they can and can’t dress just because it bothers someone or leads them to do something is assigning blame. Pureness of heart is strictly up to the person the heart belongs to.
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I don’t know…I didn’t perceive this in the above Catechism excerpt. How did you interpret the passage in regards to our individual social responsibilities?
 
Sexual attraction is a God given gift meant for humans to continue the species. Without it we would have become extinct many ages ago. So for starters, viva la difference !!

In my younger days (seems like such a loooongggg time ago), before meeting my wife, I used to love watching girls go by. I think it is a favorite hobby of most teenagers. They even made some catchy music for this.

After marriage, in spite of loving my wife, a pretty girl could catch my attention. BUT you better believe I did my best NOT to let the wife notice. I may have been attracted but I was not suicidal 😛

Keeping the hormones down was nearly impossible until after a few years of marriage. Not sure how long (maybe 15 or 20 + years) but after some years, life gets to the point where sex is not the be all and end all of life’s attractions.

Maybe it’s a disease of old age but, at this point some gal has got to be knock out gorgeous and virtually naked for me to take notice. I still know it can be dangerous, so I avoid porn and sex in the media,

Maybe at some point you realize that chasing gals is a young mans sport, and I’d look silly chasing after someone who looks more like my daughter. I don’t have one foot in the grave yet, so I know I can still be tempted. But for now, I think it is much less of a problem.

In my younger days, and even every once in a while now, low cut clothing showing cleavage can be very distracting to say the least. The saying used to be, show them if you got them.

But I would rather say, everyone knows you got them, please don’t leave them “hanging” out there. A gorgeous gal looks great even if she has a dress or blouse buttoned up to her neck.

The question you have to ask yourself is, why does a married (or engaged woman) want to show her breasts to the rest of the world ??? Single gals looking to attract a mate may be understandable. But if you have a fellow already, why are you still fishing ???.. for a replacement ?
 
More so I’d have to say that lust stems from my own imagination. I love (and probably lust) the female form. But modesty no matter how much you cover a woman up (even if she were in a burkha) would stop men from wondering about what’s underneath. The scent of a woman in general proximity from natural musky BO to a floral perfume it won’t matter. And in fact I found this. When I was a much younger man I spent a summer communing at a nude beach. It was most titalating at first, but shortly after I stopped seeing women in lustful eyes. No matter how physically beautiful they were. Conversations occured where genuine eye contact was kept. Now I’m not saying we should all shed our clothes and head back to the garden (as if we could) But sure enough that’s what happened. As for me, now I was just have to carry this cross and keep my lust in check… Such a HEAVY cross.

emp
 
A nude beach :bigyikes: !!! and eye contact with a gorgeous gal ???

sorry, but eye contact would be the very last thing on my mind even if I were a lot older than what I am…
 
Creiddylad said:
…Reading this thread you’d think that women never have problems with lust at all…

Anywho, I think it’s a tad unreasonable to put the blame on women for causing men to lust. It’s a free country, and people are allowed to express themselves how they see fit. If someone wants to dress “immodestly” (And sometimes I get the impression, people will consider close to anything “immodest” if they want to) then that’s their choice. It’s a bit of a generalization saying that women solely dress to attract men. Personally, I dress in what I think looks good and what I feel comfortable in. If a male can’t stop himself from lusting every time he sees a woman not dressed like a nun, then I think that’s his problem and his lack of self control. I don’t know why we have to blame women for some men’s faults. I personally think some men would lust even if they saw a woman dressed in a sack, sadly, so let’s stop with the blame-game.
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If you were walking down the streat and Jesus came along and said to you, “go and do not sin again”(and you weren’t a prostitute) how would you feel would you say the words you have said. "It’s a free world and I’ll do what I want. dress how I want.
And then if Jesus turned to you and said “Do not lead your brother into sin” (bible reference) What would you do?
God bless you even then
littleone.
 
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