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[Hisalone]

How can you say Islam is a peacefull religion?

Six Pastors Killed, 40 Churches Razed in Jos, Nigeria Violence
As smoke clears, mayhem ignited by Muslim attacks leaves 25,000 people displaced.

JOS, Nigeria, December 11 (Compass Direct News) – The murderous rioting sparked by Muslim attacks on Christians and their property on Nov. 28-29 left six pastors dead, at least 500 other people killed and 40 churches destroyed, according to church leaders.

More than 25,000 persons have been displaced in the two days of violence, according to the National Emergency Management Agency (NEMA).

What began as outrage over suspected vote fraud in local elections quickly hit the religious fault line that quakes from time to time in this city located between the Islamic north and Christian south, as angry Muslims took aim at Christian sites rather than at political targets. Police and troops reportedly killed about 400 rampaging Muslims in an effort to quell the unrest, and Islamists shot, slashed or stabbed to death most of more than 100 Christians.

opendoorsusa.org/content/view/858/139/

 

[paarsurrey]

How can you say Islam is a peacefull religion?

Hi

Islam is a religion; it is not a country involved in present day Politics. Please don’t mix the Muslim rulers/politicians with the religion of Islam.

Thanks

 

[MugenOne]

Islam is the state and the state is Islam.

 

[Nicolas]

What began as outrage over suspected vote fraud in local elections

opendoorsusa.org/content/view/858/139/

 

[Hisalone]

Hi

Islam is a religion; it is not a country involved in present day Politics. Please don’t mix the Muslim rulers/politicians with the religion of Islam.

Thanks

If you had read the story you would have seen that the violence was directed at Christians and Christian Churches not any political entity or political orgainization or political headquaters.
It was about and toward Christians.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

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Salaam/peace

How can you say Islam is a peacefull religion?

EVER WONDER ?

…When a Christian or Jew kills someone, Religion is NOT mentioned,

But when a Muslim is charged with a crime, It is Islam that goes to Trial ?

But then again, why is after all that, **Islam is still the FASTEST GROWING RELIGION in the world ? **

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Ghurabaa by ‘sa’ad al ghamidi’

 

[Catholic90]

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But then again, why is after all that, **Islam is still the FASTEST GROWING RELIGION in the world ? **

Because there are a lot of ill-infomed undereducated people who really don’t understand what they are doing.

 

[Athanasiy]

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Salaam/peace

EVER WONDER ?

…When a Christian or Jew kills someone, Religion is NOT mentioned,

But when a Muslim is charged with a crime, It is Islam that goes to Trial ?

But then again, why is after all that, **Islam is still the FASTEST GROWING RELIGION in the world ? **

Enjoy English and Arabic Flash Nasheeds

www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~sm598/discovery/clips/everwonder.swf

Ghurabaa by ‘sa’ad al ghamidi’

I know that for me , the Christian God is not a master but is my beloved Father and I am not his slave but his Child.
But I agree of course that the religion which promotes wars , the militarism in religion , no matter Christian or Muslim its a serious moral and spiritual problem.

 

[trdchubi]

Salaam/peace

EVER WONDER ?

…When a Christian or Jew kills someone, Religion is NOT mentioned,

But when a Muslim is charged with a crime, It is Islam that goes to Trial ?

Because the Jews and Christians will not shout ‘Our God is Great’ after committing offensive crimes against another human being.

But then again, why is after all that, **Islam is still the FASTEST GROWING RELIGION in the world ? **

How Unfortunate:dts:

“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.” [1Tim. 4:1]

 

[Genesis315]

Those who identify themselves as Muslims are very diverese in their beliefs, not unlike those who identify themselves as Christians. The original understanding of the religion can be seen by how it was practiced by the founders and those in close connection to them. Thus, as Christians we look to the Early Church Fathers, etc.

If we look at how Muhammed and immediately subsequent generations practiced Islam, we can see whether or not Islam in and of itself necessarily incorporates violence or whether acts of violence committed by Muslims currently or in times past were actually contrary to their authentic doctrine.

 

[dolphinlove]

But then again, why is after all that, **Islam is still the FASTEST GROWING RELIGION in the world ? **

And yet, here is a story i think you should read about this so called fastest growing religion.
Its by birth, but definately not by conversion. If anything, Christianity has the most conversions.

billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/

 

[morning_star777]

And yet, here is a story i think you should read about this so called fastest growing religion.
Its by birth, but definately not by conversion. If anything, Christianity has the most conversions.

billmuehlenberg.com/2008/04/05/islam-and-christianity-looking-at-the-numbers/

Exactly sister dolphy,muslims’ birth rate is very high and I am sure that muslim woman knows the high birth rate of bangladesh(she informed us that she is also from bangladesh),but perhaps she will deny that(high birth rate of muslims).I wrote before in a post that in the villages of my country bangladesh every family has 9-10 members and Mullahs and Moulovies give fatwa that birth control is forbidden.And that’s why muslims are increasing in numbers just for their very high birth rate,not for conversion.But be sure,muslims will disagree with you as usual,because at any cost they will have to prove islam as the only pure religion.Anyway sister thanks for this link .Jesus bless and save you always.

 

[joshua_b]

How can you say Islam is a peacefull religion?

opendoorsusa.org/content/view/858/139/

The same way we can say Christianity is a peaceful religion despite 2000 years of misguided people messing it up for the rest of us.

I find great profundity in the statement “There is much to love about Christ, and much to lament about Christianity”.

Hisalone, you employed several of these types of insinuating, inflamatory, and almost condescending posts recently only on that particular day your target was Catholicism. I am just as disturbed today at your attack on Islam as I was when you were attacking my faith.

Your words and (more importantly) your INSINUATIONS are divisive and inflamatory, and unless your intent is to alienate people and shut them off from anything you have to say, it is counterproductive to whatever ultimate end goal you may be trying to achieve with these sorts of threads.
Please examine your motives and find a much more constructive and appropriate way to go about trying to convey your message.

 

[franklinf]

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Salaam/peace

EVER WONDER ?

…When a Christian or Jew kills someone, Religion is NOT mentioned,

But when a Muslim is charged with a crime, It is Islam that goes to Trial ?

But then again, why is after all that, **Islam is still the FASTEST GROWING RELIGION in the world ? **

Enjoy English and Arabic Flash Nasheeds

www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~sm598/discovery/clips/everwonder.swf

Ghurabaa by ‘sa’ad al ghamidi’

Perhaps its because Islam is a religion of violence. The Koran has numerous references to violence. Furthermore, the spread of Islam is marked by war and conquest. Hisalone raises a very good point - how can you say Islam is a religion of peace?

From the Koran:

4:74 “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah soon shall we give him a reward of great value.”

4:95 “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: **But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward”
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5:33 “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter”

8:12 "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.” "

8:38 - 39 "Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them). And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do. "

9:5 "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. "

9:29 "Fight against those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

9:123 "O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him. "

25:52 “Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Qur’an).”

47:4 “When ye meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks”

And from the Hadith:

Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,’ and whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,’ his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah, (either to punish him or to forgive him.)"

 

[Muslim_Woman]

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Salaam/peace

…The Koran has numerous references to violence. "

Never read your Bible ? Jesus (p) ordered Jews to destroy the the whole city with domestic animals if people take other deity besides God. Jesus (p) allowed Moses (p) to take young virgins for him & his army etc etc . While reading Quran on verses on war , you must keep the context in mind while you do it while reading Biblical verses on war , killing etc.

Islam Denounces Terrorism

God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny. He warns you so that hopefully you will pay heed. (Qur’an, 16:90)

…Murdering a person for no reason is one of the most obvious examples of mischief. God repeats in the Qur’an a command He formerly revealed to Jews in the Old Testament thus:

…if someone kills another person - unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth - it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind… (Qur’an, 5:32)

islamdenouncesterrorism.com/terrorism1.htm

 

[Muslim_Woman]

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Salaam/peace

Because there are a lot of ill-infomed undereducated people who really don’t understand what they are doing.

How many Imams left Islam ? How many Bishops/ Priests / Pastor accepted Islam ? Do a google search & u will see those who are accepting Islam are well educated persons.

Tormeeda, Priest and Christian Scholar, Spain

A trusted student of a renowned Christian scholar in former Andalusia overhears a discussion about the Paraclete, a prophet to come mentioned in the bible

islamreligion.com/articles/52/#_ftn2766

 

[Pax4Jesus]

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Salaam/peace

EVER WONDER ?

…When a Christian or Jew kills someone, Religion is NOT mentioned,

But when a Muslim is charged with a crime, It is Islam that goes to Trial ?

But then again, why is after all that, **Islam is still the FASTEST GROWING RELIGION in the world ? **

Enjoy English and Arabic Flash Nasheeds

www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~sm598/discovery/clips/everwonder.swf

Ghurabaa by ‘sa’ad al ghamidi’

Dear friend: Islam is an affront to Christianity and the Gospel of Jesus simply because Allah is not the God of Israel. While it is true that the Jew does not recognize that Jesus is the Messiah the fact remains that as a Muslim you are worshipping a false god. Jesus said that the only way to the Father was through Him and He also said that He and His Father are one making Himself equal with the Father. Because you only recognize Jesus as a prophet and not God all mighty is proof that you must be born again to see the kingdom of God. Please read John 14:6 and John 3:3. Pax

 

[Muslim_Woman]

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Salaam/peace

Jesus said that the only way to the Father was through Him

God sent Prophets to all nations. That Prophet was the way to God for those people/nation. All Prophets taught : God is One , God is the Greatest . Jesus (p) also taught the same .

Father are one making Himself equal with the Father.

nuh. Jesus (p) declared : My Father is greater than I. Bible, John 14:28

 

[franklinf]

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Salaam/peace

Never read your Bible ? Jesus (p) ordered Jews to destroy the the whole city with domestic animals if people take other deity besides God. Jesus (p) allowed Moses (p) to take young virgins for him & his army etc etc . While reading Quran on verses on war , you must keep the context in mind while you do it while reading Biblical verses on war , killing etc.

Islam Denounces Terrorism

God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny. He warns you so that hopefully you will pay heed. (Qur’an, 16:90)

…Murdering a person for no reason is one of the most obvious examples of mischief. God repeats in the Qur’an a command He formerly revealed to Jews in the Old Testament thus:

…if someone kills another person - unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth - it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind… (Qur’an, 5:32)

islamdenouncesterrorism.com/terrorism1.htm

Could you please provide scripture references and quotes?

Also, what do those quotes mean by “in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth?” It is pretty important to know what is meant by that as it is clearly indicating violence is acceptable. Same with the “no reason.” What would reason be? Killing an “infidel?”

Furthermore, it is pretty ridiculous to just gloss over those parts of the Koran I provided as they are just your average reading on war. The Bible doesn’t reward and honor fighters over those who “stay at home.” The Koran promotes war and violence as some sort of holy endeavor. It talks about rewarding those who fight in the name of Allah and that the unbelievers will be cursed and punished. It encourages slaying and brutality towards unbelievers - crucifixion, mutilation, decapitation. The Koran preaches a holy war against all unbelievers! This is not even remotely close to the Bible. Islam is a religion of violence and it was spread by violence. It never was and is not now a religion of peace.

 

[R_not]

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Salaam/peace

God sent Prophets to all nations. That Prophet was the way to God for those people/nation. All Prophets taught : God is One , God is the Greatest . Jesus (p) also taught the same .

nuh. Jesus (p) declared : My Father is greater than I. Bible, John 14:28

The difference is that mohammed changed the message of the previous prophets. He taught predestination, he changed the stories in the OT and NT (eg: Creation, Moses, Jesus, etc), salvation by works vs we are saved because Jesus died for our sins. mohammed said that slavation through good works was essential but did not say how much or how many would make you saved, or that it would cancel out predestination.

In this radio interview of Walid Shoebat, he goes into how the ones called martyrs in islam - those who die killing non-muslims - are given a celebration that the whole community partakes in and the family puts together a celebration because they know they are one of the 70 that will be saved because of their martyr.

Walid Shoebat..

Select the program that says, Talking It Over, PART 1
December 13, 2008.

With there being so many differences in islam than either Judaism and Christianity, this proves that mohammed was not a prophet of God, but a self-proclaimed prophet of a questionable entity.

I think that many think they are peaceful and not for violence, but in their silence and their support via money, they are not only supporting the violent ones, but enabling them and encouraging them onwards.