Forbidden to attend Catholic Baptism

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They wanted to draw a line. No matter when or where that line is drawn, the unfaithful will not approve.
 
Unfortunate that someone would expect a Catholic to embrace homosexuality, yes!

I believe it was a very appropriate place to draw a line.
 
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Loud-living-dogma said:
So, it does appear that the Catholic Church does have a tradition of shunning - - isn’t that what excommunication is?
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No, excommunication means the person cannot receive communion. And because their mortal sin is of a different type, they might have to receive absolution from a bishop.

But they can still attend Mass, associate with Catholic, etc (as opposed to getting kicked out of the house, etc)
 
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Unfortunate that someone would expect a Catholic to embrace homosexuality, yes!
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Accepting is not embracing, friend. You seem to be very comfortable in exlusive version of Catholicism. The Catholic Church is not exclusive in the way you seem to wish it was. The Catholics I know are welcoming to everyone as long as they are respectful while attending Church functions. I do know OF Catholics who have your attitude towards things. Again, it is unfortunate.
 
Obviously the parents have befriended the OP. And obviously that’s not enough.

A large percentage of Catholics don’t even see a problem with same sex marriage!
 
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Well those Catholics aren’t being very Catholic, so they should not be the measure.
 
rcwitness said:
Well those Catholics aren’t being very Catholic, so they should not be the measure.
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In all charity, you seem hardly qualified to make that judgement about anyone.

Obviously, you will have to agree to disagree with me and all the other posters on this thread who called you out.
 
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That makes no sense. Catholics who see no problem with same sex marriage are blatantly denying the faith!
 
rcwitness said:
That makes no sense. Catholics who see no problem with same sex marriage are blatantly denying the faith!
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There you go again. Who said anything about Catholics who have no problem with same sex marriage. We are talking about Catholics who don’t shun other people just because they don’t subscribe to the same beliefs. You seem to jump to a lot of (false) conclusions.
 
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Hey Everyone,

One of my dearest friends got married last year and just had his beautiful baby daughter. Everyone is extremely excited and eager to meet her.

However, I was told that I was unable to attend her baptism ceremony with my same sex partner because it would create a scandal and undermine the Church’s moral authority.

I was told that since we are not gay men but that we’re “children of God led astray into sin”. With that in mind, we could potentially influence others that attended the baptism to sin as well.

Is this a formal teaching of the RCC? I’ve never heard of this before, but I’d need to know in case I get invited to more in the future by my other RCC friends that are expecting a little one.
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Well, there is another solution that will solve not only this problem, but many others as well: come out of the sinful lifestyle.
 
You probably don’t know the specifics of their relationship to be able to make that kind of judgment.
 
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You said, “The Catholics I know are welcoming to everyone as long as they are respectful while attending Church functions.”

For all I know, these don’t actually see a serious problem with same sex marriage, because there are plenty of those Catholics out there.

Befriending is one thing. Even struggling with temptation of homosexual relations as well. I’m definitely a great sinner.

It’s when a sin (especially a grave sin) is touted as nothing wrong, or even approved by God, which crosses a line.

So no matter when and how a Catholic chooses to draw a line with a friend who is openly living in grave sin, that Catholic will be criticized and portrayed as judgmental.

The person in sin is the one who has put themselves at odds with the Lord, not the one who chooses to openly not accept it, and keep it away from their children.
 
Yep, or stop expecting Catholics to embrace them into their children’s faith formation!
 
rcwitness said:
For all I know, these don’t actually see a serious problem with same sex marriage, because there are plenty of those Catholics out there.
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This is the issue. You don’t “know”. You don’t know what is in the hearts of others, so you aren’t in a position to judge those hearts. None of us know, or are in the position to judge the hearts of others.

EDIT: Just want to add that judging hearts seems to be part of our human nature in some way. Most all of us do it at some time or another. It is a struggle to stay out of that trap. I know from first-hand experience. But it is especially concerning when someone does it in relationship to religion, I think.
 
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Yes, but many actually admit it, so it doesn’t require reading their hearts at all.
 
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Unfortunately, it is a statement about how much value he places on your relationship with him.
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Matthew 10

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s foes will be those of his own household. He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and he who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for my sake will find it.
 
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