Forbidden to attend Catholic Baptism

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This is not a matter of opinion. A baptism is part of the public Liturgy of the Church. All are welcome (though not necessarily to receive communion). Only the pastor or the bishop may bar someone and that would have to be for a pretty darn serious reason.
A lot of people on this thread seem to want a very insular Church that spits on sinners and rejects evangelization. It’s pretty disgusting. I myself am a convert…good thing I wasn’t barred from entering the local parish when I was still living in the grave sins of heresy and Schism.

“You disgusting vile Protestant, how dare you profane our sacraments with your presence. Depart now to the outer darkness you wretch!” Thankfully no one said those words to me… I was welcomed and converted. That, however, is pretty much what some are implying to gay couples on this thread.

Thankfully those expressing those views are in open defiance of Holy Mother Church.
 
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The situation is a friend and same sex lover who is not being invited to a Baptismal service. It’s not a matter of someone who wishes to attend a Mass to hear the Word and open their hearts to the Lord.

If the parents don’t wish that, it should be respected. I understand that they prefer those who actually support the Baptism and share in professing the faith, as opposed to directly and boldly contradicting it!
 
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Episcopalian said:
However, I was told that I was unable to attend her baptism ceremony with my same sex partner because it would create a scandal and undermine the Church’s moral authority.
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Who told you not to attend? If the parents want you there, go. If they don’t want you there, don;t go.
 
rcwitness said:
If you (or even dissenting Catholics) believed unrepented homosexual relations prevented us to be received into the promise of the Lord’s kingdom, you might appreciate the severity of the situation.
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What if they do NOT believe that? Not every Catholic believes gay people do not go to heaven.
 
I don’t doubt that for a second. Lots of Catholics pick and choose what to accept from the Church’s Teaching.

I’m assuming you mean unrepentant, actively homosexual persons?
 
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What I don’t understand in this whole scenario is how the question even arose. Would you go to a good friend and say “I’m having a birthday party next week and, oh yeah, you’re not invited.” “I’m having friends over for dinner and, by the way, you’re not invited.” “My daughter is being baptized on Sunday and you’re not invited.”

If that’s how a good friend acts, I can do without them!
 
Or it may have been, “I heard your daughter is being Baptized, can me and my gay husband come?”

In any case, who wants to go where they are not invited?
 
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rcwitness said:
I’m assuming you mean unrepentant, actively homosexual persons?
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To me unrepentant, active homosexual is an oxymoron. I don’t see homosexuality as a sin, just as I don’t see being left-handed as a sin. What two consenting adults do in private is their business, and I don’t think we should restrict their secular rights and freedoms.

However, on topic, if the parents do not want them to attend, I personally would not. But they have a right to attend as the Church should be open to all.
 
If you’re including me in that label, you should note that the thrust of all my posts was that all should be welcome to liturgical celebrations, including baptisms, in order to encourage their conversion. I emphasized the word evangelization. If you consider me a dissenting liberal for that reason… then recent popes must be as well.
 
That’s a valid point. Either the OP invited himself to the event, or the friend was really rude to tell him about it at all. He didn’t have to bring it up and use it as an opportunity to alienate the OP with false Church teachings.
 
rcwitness said:
So you reject Catholic, moral Teaching regarding homosexual acts?
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Yes - I think it is misinformed and does nothing but cause hatred and pain. What two consenting adults do in private is their business - especially if it is based on love.

On the other hand, I’m ok with Catholic marriage being limited to opposite-sex. But secular same-sex marriage is OK.
 
As long as everyone is clear that public liturgies are open to everyone—even gay Episcopalians. One cannot actually refuse invitation to a public celebration of a sacrament.
 
MarthaSo said:
Having someone as a friend who is living with a SS partner is ok?
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You’re probably going to have friends in life who do all sorts of things the Catholic Church considers sinful. You could have a gay friend in a same-sex relationship, you could have a heterosexual friend who is picking up sex partners every weekend off Tinder or sleeping with their heterosexual partner while not married, you could have a friend who’s been divorced multiple times and is on their third marriage.

As long as your friends are not influencing you yourself to sin, and you’re not encouraging their sin or facilitating their sin (like for example letting your friends use your apartment to shack up with their Tinder acquaintances), then it’s okay to simply be friends with them and do non-sinful social things. Who knows, you might even be able to influence them to stop sinning. You do need to be careful that you don’t get sucked into their sinful lifestyle though, or start thinking their sins really aren’t all that bad.

It gets a little more complicated when you’re having these people stay at your home or come to your family gathering or you’re going to theirs. There’s often concern about what your other relatives will think or if your children will be influenced to think the sinful behavior is okay. Also, sometimes people who are initially okay with having a friend who lives a sinful (according to the Church) lifestyle may decide that they don’t want to be around that anymore and end the friendship.
 
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i don’t understand what the problem is;

you and your partner can attend any Catholic ceremony…

even a wedding Mass or baptism of people you don’t know; who would stop you?

the doors of of the local parish church are open to anybody who comes with good will
 
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Episcopalian said:
However, I was told that I was unable to attend her baptism ceremony with my same sex partner because it would create a scandal and undermine the Church’s moral authority.
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Would you clarify this: were you told you could not come at all or just not to bring your “partner”?
 
I get the sense he’s not coming back here, I think his last post was a while ago thanking everyone for their support.
 
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