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Fiasco
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Hardly!
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Rosebud77
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tafan
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Highly unlikely, no matter what your views were. If you were part of the small population who were educated and a teacher, then you may have had a problem.
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tafan
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When have Freemason been imprisoned or killed?
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rabbitdonkey
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Wait was that link uploaded with permission from the copyright owner.
God Bless
God Bless
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Fiasco
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If you didn’t notice that link (at Post #21) to a BBC documentary about the Spanish Inquisition, here it is again. It was downloaded, and played back OK:
My jaw has hit the floor after several of these( naive) posts
youtube.com/watch?v=qhlAqklH0do
The link below goes to the same documentary, but at a different site. Additionally, there’s access to other info: eg the Crusades. Not having downloaded this one, i can’t guarantee that it works OK:
www.pagadiandiocese.org/2016/06/22/spanish-inquisition-was-99-myth-bbc/
Something should be added:
After 700+ years of war with Islam which overran almost all of Spain, the Spanish Inquisition was charged with preventing Muslims from gaining access to Government positions. Why wasn’t that mentioned?
You shouldn’t be so ready to believe everything that The Church’s enemies say about her.
This old geezer is confused. Which link?
Not that it matters …no lawbreaking involved.
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Miles_Christi7
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Indeed, I don’t see the problem with this, either.
As for the Christians being disgusted with this, open up your Bible and read ALL of it, you’ll quickly see, that we aren’t supposed to bend over for enemies.
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tower_of_babel
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No point whatsoever feeling guilt about the crusades or inquisition. Just the natural response to defend christendom against islamic expansion into europe.
The main atrocities were actually comitted against europeans, the massacre of Verdun for instance, when Charlamegne slaughtered the pagan Saxons of Germany.
Or the the attacks on the Baltic pagans by the teutonic knights
The main atrocities were actually comitted against europeans, the massacre of Verdun for instance, when Charlamegne slaughtered the pagan Saxons of Germany.
Or the the attacks on the Baltic pagans by the teutonic knights
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Miles_Christi7
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Atrocities against the Saxons and Pagans of the Baltic countries? The Saxons asked for it, they were the first to attack - after the Saxons were beaten for the third time, Charlemagne got enough and punished them.
Also, the Pagans in the Baltic countries asked for it, they were a threat just like Islam was and still is.
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tower_of_babel
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interesting, i’m not saying we need feel guilt about it. but the mass beheading of the saxons leaders for instance, not a catholic thing to do
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Miles_Christi7
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The Bible doesn’t forbid us from punishing (even killing) the enemies. But yeah, if a peaceful solution is possible, go for it.
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Rosebud77
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OT or NT?
NT rightly takes over from OT on many issues, Jesus IS the New Covenant
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Miles_Christi7
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I think you misunderstand some of the teachings in the Bible. As I won’t bother explaining it myself, this link provides some well-written stuff: realclearreligion.org/articles/2014/04/30/the_myth_of_a_non-violent_jesus.html
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Gorgias
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300 years ago, the scientific establishment believed that humans had four “humours” that had to stay in balance in order for a person to be healthy; that diseases were caused by “bad air”; that continents do not move, but are fixed in place.
Must science apologize for its mistakes? Should we be skeptical of science, and accept only those theorems with which we agree – that is, be ‘cafeteria rationalists’?
Or… isn’t it more reasonable to make the ‘excuse’ (as you call it) that they acted in a way in tune with the knowledge and societal conventions of their day? :sad_yes:
Why should the Church be any different, when it comes to actions performed by persons (as distinct from doctrine)?
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Fiasco
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It was mainly the Catholic-founded institutes of learning which produced these scientists in the first place!
The bones of Copernicus were verified by DNA testing only a handful of years ago, buried under a Cathedral in Poland. The fact that he was a Catholic priest is almost always conveniently “forgotten”.
At the other end, we have Lemaitre, another priest.
And all of the other great Catholic pioneers in between.
Sick of providing this link, but if “The Beeb” can admit this, it must mean something: [The Spanish Inquisition video yet again, in the hope that someone will watch it]
youtube.com/watch?v=qhlAqklH0do
The bones of Copernicus were verified by DNA testing only a handful of years ago, buried under a Cathedral in Poland. The fact that he was a Catholic priest is almost always conveniently “forgotten”.
At the other end, we have Lemaitre, another priest.
And all of the other great Catholic pioneers in between.
Sick of providing this link, but if “The Beeb” can admit this, it must mean something: [The Spanish Inquisition video yet again, in the hope that someone will watch it]
youtube.com/watch?v=qhlAqklH0do
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JanetF
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For those throwing the Galileo controversy out there, please read:
catholic.com/tract/the-galileo-controversy
catholic.com/tract/the-galileo-controversy
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Fiasco
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Many thanks for a straight-to-the-point article.
It was downloaded, plus a print copy was made.
Decades ago, in a science fiction magazine, i came across a quote of Luther’s, damning Copernicus’s ideas.
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JanetF
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You are very welcome!
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