Forced Releif in Mayanmar

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Would it be wrong to go into Mayanmar with our Military, over ride the Government that is preventing the free world from saving lives. Put our soldiers in harms way and help them now? Then stay to protect those that would be singled out for accepting our help. Possibly for 100 years. What do you think? If I was president I would not hesitate.

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France is already asking the UN to do just this. Very scary prospect.

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Any foreign aid that has been delivered has been impounded by the military. I am praying for the victims. It’s unbelievable the surmounting tragedy that is occuring because of the government there.The dissidents are reporting that the military is underreporting the amount of victims of the typhoon as well, and the rainy season is just a couple weeks away! May God protect those people!
 
It’s all so sad.

The victims are being held hostage.
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Why do governments do these things to their own people – or anyone, but especially their own? What sense does it make? I’ve heard there are reasons to do with moving population bases around for political reasons sometimes. But why? Is that what’s happening here?
Maybe the only way to help the Burmese is to smuggle aid in individually, or airlift the people out. It sonds expensive, but I’m sure there’s some way of doing a lot of good that way. Would military intervention do any good? It might backfire, bringing a violent response and the gov’t of Myanmar might even do something awful to hostages to deter it.
 
Dale_M said:
While it is true that France floated the idea that the UN Security Council consider using force, China and Indonesia blocked the proposal.
dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3326323,00.html

But in a matter of a few days, terrible epidemics could sweep the disaster area if aid is not delivered soon.
timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3904391.ece
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Russia and China support Myanmar, and so might block any UN-backed “incursion” into Myanmar. However, Russia also supports Syria, which supports Hezbullah, which is in the process of overthrowing the government in Lebanon. Resources being used (i.e., aircraft carriers and troops) to support a Myanmar incursion could not be used to threaten the Hezbuallah takeover of Lebanon. So it’s possible that Russia would convince China to support such a move in order to take US forces out of play in the Middle East – better a humanitarian mission to burnish Bush’s image than another Middle East regime change.

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I am terribly far from being a war monger, and find war the last resort, seldom to be used, but this strikes me as different. I don’t know enough about the UN to know whether they can circumvent CHina and Russia, but if they can, I hope they do. Frankly I want a UN led world invasion and a removal of that regime. This is pure genocide and it is appalling. I feel the same about Darfur. Some things are so intrinsically wrong that the world must rise up and stop it, period.
 
How many who advocate the use of military force are themselves willing to go down to the Recruiting Office and sign up?

Particularly when the lesson of the past 40 years is that unscruplous politicians, media know-it-alls, and various “celebrities” will immediately attack them, trumpet to the world that we are not united in this war, and that by killing enough Americans the enemy can prevail politically, even if they cannot defeat us militarily?
 
The government of Myanmar is truly being quite evil by refusing aid for their citizens. I don’t understand why they would do this. It makes absolutely no sense to me. I’m sorry but it just seems evil to me to refuse aid for your citizens who desperately need it.
 
Holly3278 said:
The government of Myanmar is truly being quite evil by refusing aid for their citizens. I don’t understand why they would do this. It makes absolutely no sense to me. I’m sorry but it just seems evil to me to refuse aid for your citizens who desperately need it.
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Again and again, you will see charges made on these forums that world hunger is our fault. It isn’t – it’s the fault of governments like that of Myanmar.

No matter how much charity we give, people will starve when war lords and corrupt governments either steal what we give, or prevent it from being transported to where the need is.
 
rich123456 said:
Would it be wrong to go into Mayanmar with our Military, over ride the Government that is preventing the free world from saving lives. Put our soldiers in harms way and help them now? Then stay to protect those that would be singled out for accepting our help. Possibly for 100 years. What do you think? If I was president I would not hesitate.

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Gotta remember, if they don’t have anything we want (i.e., oil), then we won’t invade.
 
Given the just war doctrines we have, we would have to consider the chaos created if we were to go to war to save these people against the current regime’s mishandling of the entire situation.

I am currently on the fence about this.
 
vz71 said:
Given the just war doctrines we have, we would have to consider the chaos created if we were to go to war to save these people against the current regime’s mishandling of the entire situation.

I am currently on the fence about this.
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What national interest of the United States is involved here? Of to put it another way, if an invasion is necessary, why should it be Americans who land on the beaches and drop-zones?
 
rich123456 said:
Would it be wrong to go into Mayanmar with our Military, over ride the Government that is preventing the free world from saving lives. Put our soldiers in harms way and help them now? Then stay to protect those that would be singled out for accepting our help. Possibly for 100 years. What do you think? If I was president I would not hesitate.

God Bless
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I hope that you are trying to be ironic or sarcastic. Substitute the Gulf Coast of the US for Myanmar, Hurricanes Katrina and Rita for the current disaster and some foreign power with a large military such as China for the US military and you would not even consider such an idea.

Our government declined foreign assistance even as our own governmental response was less than adequate and the nightmare in the Superdome continued and bodies floated past. Should that situation have made an invasion of the US with forced “help” the right thing? I don’t think so.

There are many long term consequences to projecting power in another country as we are seeing right now in Afghanistan and Iraq. We cannot just thrust ourselves into every situation that some Americans don’t think is fair or just.

We had issues from being in Panama, the Phillipines, Vietnam and even in Europe well after WWII. Jumping into an armed conflict on a 3rd front right now would be ridiculously poor foreign policy and military strategy.

When I lived in Germany in the late 1970s our well-guarded US base was breached by terrorists who blew up our officer’s club one day. Another time a group breached our perimeter and had a firefight right past our apartment and through the complex while 100s of elementary aged children were trapped at the movie theater within 50 yards of where the breach occurred.

I doubt that serious incidents such as these and the frequent kidnapping of Americans in Italy by other terrorists during that time made the news in the US, but it is the often overlooked cost of the US projecting its power outside of its borders. It makes people resent us and plot things against us when they might otherwise focus their anger/frustrations elsewhere.
 
One of the things I learned in Viet Nam was that oriental people have an entirely different view of the value of human life than we do. It just is not as precious to them. Look at how most eastern governments treat their people, and you’ll get an indication of what I mean. Face it–we don’t agree with their approach and they don’t agree with our approach. This tragedy in Burma is an example. We expect them to live by our standards, and they will not do it. All we can do is try our best to help them out in times like this, and pray for them. Roanoker
 
rich123456 said:
Would it be wrong to go into Mayanmar with our Military, over ride the Government that is preventing the free world from saving lives. Put our soldiers in harms way and help them now? Then stay to protect those that would be singled out for accepting our help. Possibly for 100 years. What do you think? If I was president I would not hesitate.

God Bless
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What would you have said if the Cuban army had landed with doctors and food supplies to help the people of New Orleans while the US government was taking too long to deliver its’ response?
 
vern_humphrey said:
What national interest of the United States is involved here? Of to put it another way, if an invasion is necessary, why should it be Americans who land on the beaches and drop-zones?
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Helping others should be a reward unto itself…😉
Of course, there is also a side benefit of being in that country for an extended period of time…I am sure there is some strategic benefit there.
 
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