Forced to participate in occult ceremonies

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What advice would you give to someone who is a minor, baptized but non practicing Catholic who is more or less forced by his/her parents to participate in occult/ ceremonies.
 
snowflakeinlove said:
What advice would you give to someone who is a minor, baptized but non practicing Catholic who is more or less forced by his/her parents to participate in occult/ ceremonies.
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The same advice I’d give to a minor who is more or less forced by his/her parents to participate in Catholic rituals he/she does not believe in. Just tough it out until you are no longer a minor, then make your own decisions about such things.
 
Get back to practicing your faith, sacraments, rosary, devotion to Our Lady & St Michael, and a spiritual director.
Pray to St Jude, St Rita, St Philomena (for desperate causes)
Grow very close to the Lord. He knows your heart and knows you don’t consent to the occult rituals.
PM me if you want to talk more maybe I can help
 
BettyBoop416 said:
The same advice I’d give to a minor who is more or less forced by his/her parents to participate in Catholic rituals he/she does not believe in. Just tough it out until you are no longer a minor, then make your own decisions about such things.
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:eek::eek:Wrong advice!
 
I’d want to know more details. How old is the minor? What exactly are they being forced to do? And are they in reality forced or is there someway they can withdraw? I disagree with a former poster to “just tough it out” until they are of age. If this is something that is intrinsically evil and is against the Church and Jesus Christ, the child cannot and must not participate. There must be a way to withdraw or abstain. If they are in physical danger in any way, than they may be able to be removed from these parents and maybe this OP (a family member?) can care for them until they are of age.
 
MarksWife said:
I’d want to know more details. How old is the minor? What exactly are they being forced to do? And are they in reality forced or is there someway they can withdraw? I disagree with a former poster to “just tough it out” until they are of age. If this is something that is intrinsically evil and is against the Church and Jesus Christ, the child cannot and must not participate. There must be a way to withdraw or abstain. If they are in physical danger in any way, than they may be able to be removed from these parents and maybe this OP (a family member?) can care for them until they are of age.
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Quite right. Many of such practices invoving a minor are actionable in a legal sense.:cool:

Devil worshippers often target only one member of the chidren of the family. The rest are completely ignorant. This provides a certain ‘security measure’ and ferments indignation, and incredible resentment on the part of the victim. This said resultant angst and despair then facilitates the worship practices of the occultists. Despicable.
 
MarksWife said:
I’d want to know more details. How old is the minor? What exactly are they being forced to do? And are they in reality forced or is there someway they can withdraw? I disagree with a former poster to “just tough it out” until they are of age. If this is something that is intrinsically evil and is against the Church and Jesus Christ, the child cannot and must not participate. There must be a way to withdraw or abstain. If they are in physical danger in any way, than they may be able to be removed from these parents and maybe this OP (a family member?) can care for them until they are of age.
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If you are in the U.S., get in touch with Child Protective Services as soon as possible.

If elsewhere, contact the organization in your area responsible for child welfare.
 
daisybee said:
If you are in the U.S., get in touch with Child Protective Services as soon as possible.

If elsewhere, contact the organization in your area responsible for child welfare.
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The OP doesn’t give enough information to indicate the authorities should be brought in. “Forced to participate in occult ceremonies” could easily be something like attending seances or using a ouija board.
 
First of all, how was this person baptized if their parents are occult?
I would refuse, but if I was forced, I would tell them that they can make me do this, but I will always believe in jesus, and they can make me say that I don’t but I will always believe it in my heart. And that every ceremony they force on me is only making me stronger in my faith. If these parents are abusive, go to some protective services, and tell them. Whatever you do hold strong to jesus

:rose:Our lady of guadalupe, pray for us:rose:
 
snowflakeinlove said:
What advice would you give to someone who is a minor, baptized but non practicing Catholic who is more or less forced by his/her parents to participate in occult/ ceremonies.
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The danger is that some occult practices may open one up to forces that you don’t want in your life. I would advise such a minor to refuse to participate, on the grounds that such practices are against his/her beliefs. But as others have noted, it depends on what is being required and what force is being used. What does “more or less forced” mean?
I can’t even get my daughter to clean her room every day. I doubt I could persuade her to participate in wrong practices if she didn’t want to.
 
snowflakeinlove said:
What advice would you give to someone who is a minor, baptized but non practicing Catholic who is more or less forced by his/her parents to participate in occult/ ceremonies.
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I would seek out another family member, a grandparent, an aunt, an uncle and see if they can help you. I would also go to mass if possible and see if you could make an appointment to speak to a priest.

St. Michael, protect this minor and keep them from spiritual and physical harm.

Edit: Okay, I just read your other thread about your non-practicing parents. If you are not living at home as you posted in the other thread, I don’t see how they can force you to participate. Are you speaking about a sibling? I still would suggest the same thing. And continue to go to mass.
 
agnes_therese said:
The OP doesn’t give enough information to indicate the authorities should be brought in. “Forced to participate in occult ceremonies” could easily be something like attending seances or using a ouija board.
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Perhaps; you’re right, there’s nothing in the original post that states what the child is being forced to participate in. However, given the menacing nature of occult practices, and the likelihood that practices can escalate into activities that can result in physical harm to a child, there is every reason to be seriously concerned. It’s the spiritual equivalent of playing with fire. A priest who is a friend of a family has more than once encountered very dark, disturbing tales of people, women usually, who come to him seeking healing after either having been subjected to horrible, occult-related activities, or having allowed their children to take part in horrible things–sometimes the women indicate they were coereced. He indicated that sometimes those activities result in “missing children.”

Further, just because CPS receives a report regarding a concern doesn’t mean they immediately sweep in and remove the child from the home. In fact, a child wouldn’t be removed without good reason, and usually without CPS trying to place the child with a relative first. And there needs to be a paper trail before CPS takes action. The earlier documentation begins to be accumulated, the better, and the easier it would be for CPS to take action if necessary.
 
To the OP:

Would it be possible for you to share some more information about what the occult ceremonies are like? What happens there? Is anyone ever harmed in any way, or forced to do something s/he doesn’t want to do?
 
BettyBoop416 said:
So you say. What you haven’t shared with us is how you would advise this person.
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Get to a priest ASAP! Since the op didn’t mention his/her age,only that op is a minor,this is the best advice I can offer. Are the parents’ Catholic and have chosen to dabble on the occult?
 
Jeanne_S said:
Get to a priest ASAP! Since the op didn’t mention his/her age,only that op is a minor,this is the best advice I can offer. Are the parents’ Catholic and have chosen to dabble on the occult?
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Yes.
This isn’t about me though, or my parents. It’s someone I know. A close friend of my sister, actually. This person doesn’t really seem comfortable talking about their faith, (not sure if this person is agnostic or atheist or just non practicing) so I’m not sure if going to a priest is an option.
I don’t think it’s physically dangerous, the objection to it is because this person thinks it is nonsense and finds it uncomfortable. But my sister and I can’t help but be concerned.
 
snowflakeinlove said:
Yes.
This isn’t about me though, or my parents. It’s someone I know. A close friend of my sister, actually. This person doesn’t really seem comfortable talking about their faith, (not sure if this person is agnostic or atheist or just non practicing) so I’m not sure if going to a priest is an option.
I don’t think it’s physically dangerous, the objection to it is because this person thinks it is nonsense and finds it uncomfortable. But my sister and I can’t help but be concerned.
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Would you and your sister be willing to speak to a priest on her behalf? An intervention is needed.As previous posters mentioned,this isn’t something to take lightly.Your friends’s souls is in danger,not to mention the souls of her parents as well!
 
BettyBoop416 said:
The same advice I’d give to a minor who is more or less forced by his/her parents to participate in Catholic rituals he/she does not believe in. Just tough it out until you are no longer a minor, then make your own decisions about such things.
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Classy miss. Except there is a huge diffirence between raising young children and disciplining them because Catholicism is moral and teaches moral values and participating in the occult with all it’s superstitions, rubbish teachings and pointlessness. My parents would force me to go to mass with them not because of any social stigma but ebcause they cared about my faith. I wasn’t a devout Catholic but neither was I an atheist and today, I’m glad I’m Catholic and that my dad prayed for me when I left the Church for 3 years.
 
BettyBoop416 said:
So you say. What you haven’t shared with us is how you would advise this person.
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You’re advice is frankly horrible miss becuase it’s not based on the welfare of a child but on a pervertec oncept of religious freedom and tolerance, so here’s mine. Nobody should be forced to participate in evil rituals like that. They should call child protective services and get the child out of there. The child should be given reasons why he shouldn’t feel guilty because it’s not his fault and told why those rituals are bad. If he says in some way that there is no diffirence ebtween Catholic and occult rituals, he should be told that yes, there IS. There is a diffirence between those two rituals because the Church was found on Christ and His teachings whereas occultism is nothing but a load of mumbo jumbo made up by the satanists themsevles in order to access something they don’t even know exists. Catholicsm teaches discipline and lvoe of God; occultism teaches nothing, leaves no benefits and is pointless.

So call child protective services, Talk witht he child. Bang. End of story.
 
GutsfromBerserk said:
You’re advice is frankly horrible miss becuase it’s not based on the welfare of a child but on a pervertec oncept of religious freedom and tolerance, so here’s mine…

Blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

…Bang. End of story.
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Cool. You have an opinion. I guess that means you’re right.
 
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