Foreplay Within Marriage

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It’s kinda like saying, “I love you, but I don’t love you enough to have children with you.” Or it could go that way.

So, for the sake of imagination and bearing on my own point of view:

If I were years younger, and I met, and saw this warm beautiful girl, and wanted to marry her. So we dated. Things got better, and got to know each other. Then from there did the intimacy which we begin our lives together do I beg the question, “Will you marry me?” And so we continue in getting married.

So, if I truly believe, and love this girl. And I truly see and believe she is beautiful (in all aspects, the interior of her heart to it’s accentuating expression through her beauty as a marvelous woman and a female. I’d then have to truly believe in loving her, that her beauty should extended in our hearts of the beautiful love and relationship. Thus having and bearing children together. For, if I say she is beautiful, smart, and intelligent. Well, I’d want to share that with others; other human lives; children. And so extending into a family unit happens, and between us, a new family is born. A whole new generation.

That’s love. You love that girl, your spouse, and want to extend her beauty and love with your own genes/qualities. And thereby having children. To intentionally stop short of that without credible reason (leaving it open to medical or financial or some other reason that has some legitimacy.) But if not for legitimate reasons, it falls short of love. I should say, since love isn’t just particularly this aspect of a matrimonial relationship. But, if foreplay leads up to the act of giving life to a child through conception, then if you stop that part of the act. Then, in that instance, you fall short of love to that person.
 
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The word tells you something important “fore” play. It happens leading up to another act, it is before.
 
MchaelPatrick said:
Masturbation is touching oneself. Touching your spouse is not masturbation. Mutual masturbation is not spouses touching each other. It is spouses touching themselves simultaneously.
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You play with words… (Or I don’t unederstand? English is not my mother tongue)

Maturbation can be touching onself
Masturbation can be touching your spouse (or an other person) in the way you can touch yourself. That both spouses touch the other simultaneously or not, don’t change something. It’s still conjugal masturbation.
 
Anicette said:
Masturbation can be touching your spouse (or an other person) in the way you can touch yourself. That both spouses touch the other simultaneously or not, don’t change something. It’s still conjugal masturbation.
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This is irrelevant as long as the sex act ends with the husband climaxing inside his wife!!
 
Or just get a Nintendo Wii, and just forget about sex. If the desire has nothing to do with bringing forth another human being into the world.
 
BoyGenius said:
It’s kinda like saying, “I love you, but I don’t love you enough to have children with you.” Or it could go that way.
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I find this ridiculous. It is more like saying “I love you and our life together, but I am not ready to upset the balance right now by introducing another person into our relationship.”
 
BoyGenius said:
Or just get a Nintendo Wii, and just forget about sex. If the desire has nothing to do with bringing forth another human being into the world.
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Not sure if you are serious, but my post-menopausal wife and I are very happy to be engaging in mutually pleasurable sexual activities even though those acts are not going to bring another human being into the world…
 
TechieGuy said:
Not sure if you are serious, but my post-menopausal wife and I are very happy to be engaging in mutually pleasurable sexual activities even though those acts are not going to bring another human being into the world…
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And even though the act is highly unlikely to result in conception, one can always fantasize.
 
Jerusha said:
And even though the act is highly unlikely to result in conception, one can always fantasize.
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Pshaw - well, yes I guess one could, but quite frankly we have no desire to have another child at our ages and we are very pleased to be having good sex with no risk of pregnancy.
 
QwertyGirl said:
I find this ridiculous.
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But you don’t find it ridiculous that someone see’s a child entering into a relationship as disrupting?

I guess, forget it, we’re not humans. Throw self control out the window. We just believe the sexual appetites like animal lovers only warrant. So thus do we foreplay to bring about our intimate passions and lustful wills on each other. We’re going to tease our reproductive systems, but not live out the manner as husband and wife who love each other to warrant another child’s life into existence.

Does that follow what you mean by balance?
 
BoyGenius said:
. So thus do we foreplay to bring about our intimate passions and lustful wills on each other. We’re going to tease our reproductive systems, but not live out the manner as husband and wife who love each other to warrant another child’s life into existence.
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Sounds like a typical Thursday night around my place.

Have you ever been married, BG?
 
I appreciate all the responses and the Holy Spirit has guided me to the answer.

Foreplay when isolated from the martial act is disordered. Back massages, hugging etc is acceptable. Genital contact, “naughty play” etc should be avoided.

Lovemaking should be centered on God and foreplay for the sake of foreplay is not.

God Bless All!
 
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I think it’s an act of love, that falls short of something better. But a shallow view of it, in a relationship that doesn’t grow or extend with an addition of another person.

Jesus did say the branches that do not stay on the vine, or do not bear fruit, will fall off or be pruned. So with matrimonial relationships, without living out the gift given to bear, give, and raise life, it then falls off of the branch. And therefore dies.
 
Catholic_Guy1 said:
Foreplay when isolated from the martial act is disordered. Back massages, hugging etc is acceptable. Genital contact, “naughty play” etc should be avoided.

Lovemaking should be centered on God and foreplay for the sake of foreplay is not.
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Thanks.
And thanks to write your definition of “foreplay” (I was not sure of what you include) and end a stupid debate here because evrybody has his own definition.

It’s my belief too.
And I believe it is the Church wiew too,from what I have studied.

Foreplay is a preparation for intercourse. It could be conterproductive and frustrating to engage in it without going to finish what was begin.

God bless you!
 
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