Forgiveness Issues

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I have a problem with my family - I am a single adult, and childless, so the family I’m referring to is siblings and adult nieces and nephews. I am treated, I feel, pretty disrespectfully by most of them. When I say or do something, negative assumptions are made as to my motivation or intentions and they get mad at me or stop speaking to me without telling me what’s going on. I’m not given the benefit of the doubt or asked what my true intentions were. This has been going on for years and I am at the point where I just want to pretty much “divorce” my family and have nothing to do with them anymore. I know we’re supposed to forgive, as we are forgiven, but how many times do I have to open myself up to this? I am so frustrated and hurt by this, it had me in tears today over the latest drama. I am truly at a loss and don’t know what to do. Is it ok to walk away from my family in this instance? Even if I forgive them? Any thoughts or advice will be appreciated - I’m open to all suggestions. But one last thing, my family is not full of “talkers.” They don’t want to discuss these things, they just want to judge without all the facts and go on.
 
I would not recommend leaving your family, not unless they were a very bad influence on you or seriously endangering your soul…but in this case, i would say to work on your humility and patience,
i personally know what you are talking about, some in my family are very much like what you described, and it’s also driven me to tears at times, even to the point of wanting to leave them,
but we have to look at this from a spiritual point of view, and i’m sure that’s one reason why you’re asking on here, because you know there’s more than one side to all of this, and the other side of it is, God doesn’t place us in those kinds of situations without good reason, there is surely some great spiritual benefit for you in all of that, and if you can work at obtaining those spiritual benefits, it will not only help you, but your family also.

of course when there is a difference of belief in your family, whether religion based or politics or whatever else, then conflicts will inevitably arise, and you just have to deal with that somehow(preferably in a virtuous way) and it’s not gunna go away even if you leave, although it may not be the same, but these kinds of conflicting situations happen anywhere you go, and because you can’t change the world, so instead the answer is to change yourself…
and who would say “no” to having peace in all things? because that is what will result if you earnestly work to change yourself in conformity to Gods will,

now of course i don’t know what kind of arguments arise in your family or what are the causes of your conflicts, but in any given situation there is a right way to act and a right thing to say(or not say), and you can learn those things simply by learning your faith(especially the virtues), and for that i would recommend reading “The Imitation of Christ”, or “Introduction to a Devout life” which you can find on www.tanbooks.com

of course changing like that would not happen over night, it is something that you will learn and grow in over time, and you will just need to be patient with both yourself and your family in the meantime,
although i know, the immediate family is always the hardest to get along with apart from anyone else, but the reason for that is because they are the ones you are most comfortable with, although not comfortable in a good way, but what i mean is, with your family you show your true colors, for example, someone may think they are very patient because they are easy going with their friends or co-workers, and then when it comes to their own family they put up with nothing, and make every excuse such as “you can only take so much!” or something similar.
but the fact of the matter is, you are either patient, or not, you can’t be patient in one aspect, and impatient in another, and still call yourself patient…God gives us those trials, not to prove ourselves to Him(because He knows us far better than we know ourselves) but instead to see ourselves as we really are, to prove to ourselves what we are,
and since i have learned that, i have instead seen my family situation as a great gift from God, as an opportunity to know myself in a far better and clearer way than i would anywhere else,

but there is one thing that must be obtained before all of that, and that is to have God as you end in all things, in every act, thought, and word, to have God as your only goal, otherwise it all falls apart, because when we have secret goals, such as pride, vanity, greed, or whatever else, then that peace you are seeking is never fully attained,

you can have peace with your family, and truly love them and forgive them, but in order to do that, it’s not your family that needs to change, but you, because you will deal with conflict the same way whether it’s with your family or not, and so even if your family did change, you still wouldn’t have peace, unless you change, so keep that in mind,
just think of how Jesus was treated, how so many hated Him and were terrible towards Him in what they said and how they acted, and of course He did not deserve it in the least, but He accepted it and was silent and was at peace,
He took our impossible cross from us, and in exchange gave us His heart, and we should desire atleast to take some of that cross back from Him, and likewise give Him our heart.

so, as i said before, look at this as an opportunity, not just to grow in virtue, but also to love God more and more, because to endure the things that Jesus went through and to compare those sufferings with His, really makes you appreciate what He did for you and makes you love Him all the more for it, especially when we realize that Jesus did not deserve to suffer in that way, whereas we really do, and also remember that when we accept our crosses and try to carry them(by the grace of God) then we are also helping Jesus to carry His cross, and Jesus likewise helps us to carry ours, and so really your burden is lightened.
and i don’t mean to make it sound like you should be ashamed of yourself or anything like that, because i know it is hard and i even struggle with it still, but to struggle does not mean you are losing or that you are weak, it means that you are fighting, and that is a good thing! if there is no struggle then there is no battle, and if there is no battle then there is nothing to win.
and of course in order to win the battle and claim your prize you first need Gods help, because without God we can do nothing, so the first thing you want to do before doing anything is pray, pray your morning and night prayers, and the rosary, every day, and whatever other devotions you like, and also most importantly even above the rosary(although it’s a close call) is to spend time alone with God every day, atleast a half hour, just to talk with Him, about anything really,

and lastly i would say, just take it easy, and try to talk with your priest about it for some better advice.

ok, hope this helps, take care.
 
Yes, it is perfectly fine to establish boundaries with troublesome relatives.
 
Forgiving someone doesn’t mean you have to accept their behavior.
 
One thing I found helpful when dealing with people - family or friends - who during a conflict would question my reality or my motives. That is to think of the verse “If God is for us, who can be against us?”

In other words, God knows the truth in your heart. If you have examined your conscience and motives (just calmly and reasonably, not with anxiety or scrupulosity) and feel reasonably certain your motives are good, then during those conflictual times, send up a little prayer to God and then take a deep breath, and in a calm voice, say to the person, “Well, that may be what you believe about me, but in my heart I know that is not true.” And then go silent.

If they yammer at you, trying to draw you back into arguing, which they likely will, but you remain calm, eventually it will take the wind out of their sails. Also, like with parents and kids (because it sounds like some of these folks may be acting a bit childish) try to “catch them being good” and “reward” them with a friendly gesture or a sincere compliment or something. You will know what they like and don’t like. Don’t be fake or call a lot of attention to it, but just sort of show them that when they’re willing to be reasonable adults, you will respect them and enjoy your time together.

None of these changes of longstanding patterns will happen overnight, but do the best you can. If the problem is especially emotionally wearying, read some books on getting along with difficult people. Even some of the secular ones have good to offer, depending. One that helped me was Emotional Blackmail by Susan Forward. I was dealing with some real manipulation and reading that helped me grow a spine! 😉 And yet without becoming nasty or vindictive. Just deciding where I stood and what I needed to do.

Pray - ask your Guardian Angel to have a talk with their Guardian Angels before an interaction - Pope John XXIII was said to have done this and I just love the idea. And it works.:angel1::angel1:
 
Perhaps, you can write a letter to each of your siblings. There is something very special about a letter. Immediate interactions are not possible and the person has to think and digest the content in solitude or at least in your absence. It forces them to listen and understand how they are hurting you and how unfair it is and to contemplate the roots/basis of their behavior towards you. Sometimes, it is just a family culture type of behavior which is unfounded and recognized for what it is once people really stop and think. It could be, for instance, that someone described you in a certain way or treated you in a certain way when you were younger, maybe a parent, and it becomes like an attitude/preconceived perception that is unfounded of the family and relatives and in times becomes the natural way to treat you and respond to you based on the categorization that occurred. If this is the case, you want to identify the origination and debunk it.

Let them know that it is harmful to you and all to promote your nieces and nephew to disrespect their uncle. This dishonors the whole family. Let them know that although you forgive them, you will not tolerate the treatment any longer and expect your nieces and nephews to respect you. If they do not resolve their behavior you find that it will be best to distance yourself from the family and minimize interactions.

You want to take a look at the whole picture too. Sometimes, siblings degrade and criticize a sibling to cover up their own insecurities and shorcomings and so to be accepted by their parents or be favorites. Sometimes, the root is difficult to identify because you are part of the situation and may not be able to obtain a good enough perspective of the situation to identify the problem or it’s origin.

My ability to gain perspective came with maturity, age and time and after I completely cut off, sort of speak, the umbilical cord and recognized myself as an independent adult. This helps you to see people for who they are and, at least for me it was refreshing and I was able to recognize problems people have to which I had been victim to without knowing.

I would say send a thoughtful, sincere and firm letter. Pray that the situation is resolved for the good of everyone. Certainly, you do not have to accept emotional nor psychological abuse continuously from anyone. You are a beloved child of God and may demand respect for your human dignity. You may not get the response you would like but, keep praying on it and stick to your guns and who knows, perhaps in time they will recognize how wrong they were and respect you for not accepting the degradation. Hope this helps. Pray for the grace to forgive them completely, sometimes, we need a grace from God to forgive.

Peace,

Abba
 
Good post, Abba! 👍 Sometimes too we have to realize that it’s necessary to “speak the truth in love,” that we are helping the person become a better person. Whatever approach you take, start out with naming some of the person’s good qualities to show that you appreciate those and that you know they are capable of being better. Hopefully they may even thank you for it at some point!
 
First I would like to say, thanks so much for all the (name removed by moderator)ut.
And to Emerald -
“just think of how Jesus was treated, how so many hated Him and were terrible towards Him in what they said and how they acted, and of course He did not deserve it in the least, but He accepted it and was silent and was at peace,
He took our impossible cross from us, and in exchange gave us His heart, and we should desire atleast to take some of that cross back from Him, and likewise give Him our heart.”

This really struck a chord with me - thank you!

To Abba -
“Let them know that it is harmful to you and all to promote your nieces and nephew to disrespect their uncle.”

I’m actually their aunt, but my user name doesn’t indicate gender I realize. But the advice you give is wonderful, thank you.

To everyone else, again, thanks so much! You’ve all helped me tremendously. I will look at this as a learning experience from our Father for me. On a side note, I have a muscle disease that causes weakness and fatigue and from the very beginning that I returned to the Church, in my prayers I always thank God for that challenge He laid before me because I learn more concretely that with Him I CAN do anything. And from this perspective, I can now thank Him for this challenge.
Thanks to all of you for helping me to recognize this. I feel so much better! 😃
 
We’re all learning together! I found the other posts helpful myself! God bless everyone! :blessyou:
 
Hi IrishRush. I think it is good to try to break away perhaps for a while for you to recollect on the situation of your life. If you are self-sufficient on your own and since you are an adult, then that would be worth a try. It’s not like you are burning bridges or anything like that. Sometimes, you can be taken for granted or perhaps the other members of the family do not give you the respect you deserved or they think you are a burden or the odd one.

There are many reasons why people do not take us seriously and that’s not always good for you and your own self-esteem. On the other hand, the reason why they treat you as such could also arise from your own behavior and character. Thus my advice to give it a try to break the cycle of the attitude they have for you and your reaction toward them. If this has been going on for many years and you have been tolerating it, all the more you may want a break. Until you are able to see the picture clearer then return to the family and start from there anew.

God bless you.
 
Hi Reuben,
I think you’re right when you talk about it going on for many years - I am the second to the youngest with 7 siblings (and the youngest girl) and they really still view me as the baby (despite the fact that I am now 50!), so that is part of the problem I think. Oddly, they don’t treat my younger brother, the youngest of us all, this way.
I have reviewed how I have acted with them and even asked the sister I’m closest with if there is anything I’ve done or said that gives cause for this. Her only response is denial that these assumptions are being made even though I’ve given her examples. She’s one who does it most. I honestly can’t think of anything that’s happened that would cause this - I’ve tried to be as objective as I can. But this has been going on for years and I really am tired of the way it makes me feel.
I have been praying about this a lot and I do feel that distancing myself from my family is the only answer right now. The level of anxiety this causes me can’t be good for me.
I am so appreciative of the good advice I’ve read on this. I thank you all - I know this sounds like some silly family drama to most people but it’s a big thing for me. So thanks to all of you for your help.
Your prayers for me on this would also be appreciated.
 
Also, don’t underestimate the help of taking “mini-retreats” when you’re around them. Go for a walk if you can, remember something you left in the car or volunteer to take the dog or play with the children - just get away for a little while.

If this isn’t possible, worst-case scenario - simply go to the bathroom! 😃 I mean, it’s private, and if you want to count to a hundred, or scream into your fists, or even shed a few tears and then wash your face before re-entering the fray, you can. (Act casual and remember to drink lots of liquids so they’ll believe you really have to go, LOL!) I have done this and it can give you at least a few moments to yourself when you really need them! And that locked door gives you a psychological edge, a feeling of protection. 😉
 
I thank you all - I know this sounds like some silly family drama to most people but it’s a big thing for me. So thanks to all of you for your help.
Your prayers for me on this would also be appreciated.
Please do not say that and it is certainly not just family drama. 🙂 Sometimes the most emotional draining experience happens between people who are close to each other, like members of a family. And you are certainly not alone in this situation; there are many others who would probably in similar situation or even worse off.

As I said take time off to be alone and in prayer. Bottom line is good to have a family, then it is a matter of working on the relationship.

May God bless you, shines his face on you and gives you peace.
 
I have a problem with my family - I am a single adult, and childless, so the family I’m referring to is siblings and adult nieces and nephews. I am treated, I feel, pretty disrespectfully by most of them. When I say or do something, negative assumptions are made as to my motivation or intentions and they get mad at me or stop speaking to me without telling me what’s going on. I’m not given the benefit of the doubt or asked what my true intentions were. This has been going on for years and I am at the point where I just want to pretty much “divorce” my family and have nothing to do with them anymore. I know we’re supposed to forgive, as we are forgiven, but how many times do I have to open myself up to this? I am so frustrated and hurt by this, it had me in tears today over the latest drama. I am truly at a loss and don’t know what to do. Is it ok to walk away from my family in this instance? Even if I forgive them? Any thoughts or advice will be appreciated - I’m open to all suggestions. But one last thing, my family is not full of “talkers.” They don’t want to discuss these things, they just want to judge without all the facts and go on.
sounds like my family:D

sometimes you have to accept that you can physically change people, only god can do that…

heres a website that may interest you to help you pray for a better relationship with your family

missionbell.homestead.com/Afavourgrantedbytheholysouls.html
 
Thank you Crystal - excellent suggestion. As part of my daily prayers, all the souls in Purgatory are included in my intentions, but I will try to remember to pray for them more often. It will be a good way to keep from dwelling on my other issue that I really can’t do anything about right now. God bless you!
 
Thank you Crystal - excellent suggestion. As part of my daily prayers, all the souls in Purgatory are included in my intentions, but I will try to remember to pray for them more often. It will be a good way to keep from dwelling on my other issue that I really can’t do anything about right now. God bless you!
no problem:thumbsup:
 
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