forgiveness of sins for Jews?

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Please forgive my ignorance but I have been curious as to how Jewish people seek forgiveness for thier sins?
As they reject Christ and his salvific redemption and, I assume, do not slaughter bulls anymore (not having a Temple or a Priesthood), how to they atone for thier sins?
Do they still have the same concept of sin?
Any help?..
 
CreosMary said:
Please forgive my ignorance but I have been curious as to how Jewish people seek forgiveness for thier sins?
As they reject Christ and his salvific redemption and, I assume, do not slaughter bulls anymore (not having a Temple or a Priesthood), how to they atone for thier sins?
Do they still have the same concept of sin?
Any help?..
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I don’t know - but I know that muslims still slaughter animals (lambs specifically I think).

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Jews still celebrate passover with the Passover lamb, do they not?
 
LilyM said:
Jews still celebrate passover with the Passover lamb, do they not?
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Not since the destruction of the Temple in 70 (?) AD.

You may be confusing the Passover lamb with the scapegoat which carried away the sins - on Yom Kippur I think. This too ended with the priesthood and Levis at the destruction of the Temple.

I think they now just pray for forgiveness - especially on Yom Kippur - The Day of Atonement.
 
Joe_Kelley said:
Not since the destruction of the Temple in 70 (?) AD.

You may be confusing the Passover lamb with the scapegoat which carried away the sins - on Yom Kippur I think. This too ended with the priesthood and Levis at the destruction of the Temple.

I think they now just pray for forgiveness - especially on Yom Kippur - The Day of Atonement.
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No lamb at the Passover meal? I didn’t think they’d need a priest to slaughter it or anything.

And yes, I’m aware of the scapegoat. But Christ is actually the Passover lamb - he chose to die at Passover, after all 😉
 
It seems to me that modern-day Judaism has less in common with the Temple-era Hebrew religion, and more in common with what can be called “Protestantism”. That is, the religious leaders are mere teachers (“rabbis”) of the faith, and personal confessions and relationships with God are more important than liturgical worship.

Forgiveness is a good example of this. In the ancient Hebrew religion, forgiveness was a liturgical event at the Temple, consisting of lambs and goats sacrificed by priests. Today, forgiveness is “personal”, that is, you ask God for forgiveness, and you ask people you know for forgiveness, with no “intercession” by a priesthood involved.
 
KofC660 said:
It seems to me that modern-day Judaism has less in common with the Temple-era Hebrew religion, and more in common with what can be called “Protestantism”. That is, the religious leaders are mere teachers (“rabbis”) of the faith, and personal confessions and relationships with God are more important than liturgical worship.
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“Protestism”? I dont think that is accurate. Your missing another aspect of the today’s Rabbi, the laywer. There are so many laws to follow that need an authority to interpret and judge, just look at the Talmud. Orthodox Christianity to has it’s own sacred laws not listed in scripture that the people need to adhere by.
 
LilyM said:
No lamb at the Passover meal? I didn’t think they’d need a priest to slaughter it or anything.

And yes, I’m aware of the scapegoat. But Christ is actually the Passover lamb - he chose to die at Passover, after all 😉
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Origianally it was the Father of the family who killed the lamb. But that priesthood devolved to the Levites. By Jesus’ time it was the Temple Levites who did the slaughtering.

Right Jesus was the Passove Lamb. However, I don’t see any record that the Jews regarded the Lamb as a forgiveness of sin. It was a link to the Exodus and God’s rescue of them from Egypt.
 
LilyM said:
Jews still celebrate passover with the Passover lamb, do they not?
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Hi Lily,

When the Israelites were held captive in Egypt by an oppressive Pharoah, God showed his anger by killing the firstborn in all of Egypt (Ex 11:1-7). However, the Israelites would be spared if they sacrified a lamb. And so they did, and Passover is a festival to commerate this deliverance (Ex 12:1-12).

It is interesting to note that later Jesus would be crucified during a Passover festival (Jn 19:14). This is why he is referred to as the Lamb of God; He saved us from something far worse than an oppressive Pharoah - He saved us from sin! (Jn 1:29)

When Jesus was crucified, the veil in the temple was found to be torn (Mt 27:50-52). Christians believe that God was trying to tell us that we no longer need a high priest to offer the sacrificial scapegoat behind the veil. But the Jews fixed the veil and continued with their rituals. (I think this is known as Yom Kipper.) This continued until 70 AD when the temple was destroyed in the failed Great Revolt against the Romans. (I think the lamb at Passover and the goat at Yom Kipper are different.)

Since then, I think the Jews have had difficulty in reconstructing the day without the pageantry associated with temple life.

Catholics nowadays refer to the modern Passover as “Good Friday”. (I think the Orthodox still refer to it as Passover.)
 
Charlie_Zeaiter said:
Hi Lily,

When the Israelites were held captive in Egypt by an oppressive Pharoah, God showed his anger by killing the firstborn in all of Egypt (Ex 11:1-7). However, the Israelites would be spared if they sacrified a lamb. And so they did, and Passover is a festival to commerate this deliverance (Ex 12:1-12).

It is interesting to note that later Jesus would be crucified during a Passover festival (Jn 19:14). This is why he is referred to as the Lamb of God; He saved us from something far worse than an oppressive Pharoah - He saved us from sin! (Jn 1:29)

When Jesus was crucified, the veil in the temple was found to be torn (Mt 27:50-52). Christians believe that God was trying to tell us that we no longer need a high priest to offer the sacrificial scapegoat behind the veil. But the Jews fixed the veil and continued with their rituals. (I think this is known as Yom Kipper.) This continued until 70 AD when the temple was destroyed in the failed Great Revolt against the Romans. (I think the lamb at Passover and the goat at Yom Kipper are different.)

Since then, I think the Jews have had difficulty in reconstructing the day without the pageantry associated with temple life.

Catholics nowadays refer to the modern Passover as “Good Friday”. (I think the Orthodox still refer to it as Passover.)
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Interesting can i ask u a question? what is the difference between Roman catholics and the orthodoxs?
i know that the orthodox faith have the xmass and passover a week later than roman catholics
 
dorand76 said:
Interesting can i ask u a question? what is the difference between Roman catholics and the orthodoxs?
i know that the orthodox faith have the xmass and passover a week later than roman catholics
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Some Orthodox people celebrate Christmas later than us becuase they use an ancient calendar system.

Generally speaking, Easter is the Sunday that follows Passover. But the interpretation and specific calculations of this rule has varied over the centuries. I wouldn’t worry about it too much here; I think you should start a new thread if you want more details.
 
I am afraid they going to send me to the cross Charlie.Lol. See the Mohammed thread and tell me if I am right or not. Thank you for the reply though. Ur the only one that is on the right state of mind here I think. These ppl are high on something and please dont tell me it is faith… Lol.
 
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