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I am not great at this logic but how does this sound. I was reading feminist epistemeology and trying to understand what these people are saying and they talk like men and women are equal. Not sure what that means. But some say that rationality as defined by some of the ancients involved men and might not be correct. So then men and women aren’t equal. Can someone help me understand this? Am I just lacking knowledge to make any valid inferences because I have no reasonable premises?
 
I am not great at this logic but how does this sound. I was reading feminist epistemeology and trying to understand what these people are saying and they talk like men and women are equal. Not sure what that means. But some say that rationality as defined by some of the ancients involved men and might not be correct. So then men and women aren’t equal. Can someone help me understand this? Am I just lacking knowledge to make any valid inferences because I have no reasonable premises?
It sounds like the feminists you are reading are trying to claim that logic (“rationality”) is invalid b/c it was invented by men, which commits the genetic fallacy and is itself illogical and invalid.

Men and women are equal in dignity, but distinct from one another (i.e. men and women are not interchangeable). It is an equality of complementarity not of identity.
 
It depends on who you’re reading. The key words I think in your description are “as defined by men.” I think very few will say logic itself is invalid. More commonly what I’ve seen is the idea that what we consider “rational” or “logical” (especially as contrasted with the "emotional) is itself influenced by predominantly male ways of thinking. An example from the ethics I’ve studied is that men tend to think in much more rule-based ways, while women tend to think more in terms of relationships. A lot of people would consider the first more “rational”, but it’s not clearly a better ethical approach. In fact there’s one famous study that came out saying men were better developed ethically than men, and was criticized on this same principle - that it was considering “rational” rule-based systems as better than “emotional” relationship-based ones.

Keep in mind when reading feminist writings there’s not always one thing that all feminists believe. I’ve done some fair study, and what you’re talking about is one of those areas where a lot of people disagree. So you’re going to find different things in the literature that don’t all fit together.
 
It sounds like the feminists you are reading are trying to claim that logic (“rationality”) is invalid b/c it was invented by men, which commits the genetic fallacy and is itself illogical and invalid.

Men and women are equal in dignity, but distinct from one another (i.e. men and women are not interchangeable). It is an equality of complementarity not of identity.
I was not sure and still am not really sure what they mean when they say equal. I agree yes they are equal in dignity but not identity. Whether or not they realize that or not I do not know.
 
It depends on who you’re reading. The key words I think in your description are “as defined by men.” I think very few will say logic itself is invalid. More commonly what I’ve seen is the idea that what we consider “rational” or “logical” (especially as contrasted with the "emotional) is itself influenced by predominantly male ways of thinking. An example from the ethics I’ve studied is that men tend to think in much more rule-based ways, while women tend to think more in terms of relationships. A lot of people would consider the first more “rational”, but it’s not clearly a better ethical approach. In fact there’s one famous study that came out saying men were better developed ethically than men, and was criticized on this same principle - that it was considering “rational” rule-based systems as better than “emotional” relationship-based ones.

Keep in mind when reading feminist writings there’s not always one thing that all feminists believe. I’ve done some fair study, and what you’re talking about is one of those areas where a lot of people disagree. So you’re going to find different things in the literature that don’t all fit together.
What you say in ¶2 yes I agree with. The epistemeology doesn’t seem to be conherent. Not a universal defined philosophy of knowledge.
 
What you say in ¶2 yes I agree with. The epistemeology doesn’t seem to be conherent. Not a universal defined philosophy of knowledge.
The question is really does any individual author have a coherent philosophy (universal is a bit much - I don’t know of any decent epistemology that could make that claim). I just don’t think you can read through and find what theory feminist epistemologists believe, just like you couldn’t read through a modern epistemology textbook and find what one coherent theory modern epistemologists believe.
 
The question is really does any individual author have a coherent philosophy (universal is a bit much - I don’t know of any decent epistemology that could make that claim). I just don’t think you can read through and find what theory feminist epistemologists believe, just like you couldn’t read through a modern epistemology textbook and find what one coherent theory modern epistemologists believe.
I will post some of the beliefs of our own Ruth who married Boaz as she now deals with humanity. She is powerful enough to move things being much more powerful than us and what she is doing “under-the-table” so to speak. This will not agree with the Church so this too is how God deals with us; at-large.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Steinem#Feminist_positions

Now the question. Is this difference in dignity or identity?

Whew! We certainly don’t go for this stuff. His ways are not ours.
 
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