Former Catholic Priest Condemns the Catholic Church and Scott Hahn

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I’m obviously a bit confused on what it is you were referring to in your above statements
I’ve tried to folow the conversation… but I too am a bit confused by what the coach is trying to say.

With all due respect Coach - I still have to ask.
… if your not Catholic why are you always on here? CAF (always)

Are you Bitter… about something?
 
I have no ax to grind but to speak what I feel is true, and to challenge what I feel is not, I guess just like everyone else here. Lets just say I had some questions about core Church teachings for a long time, but would speak to priests and get very poor answers. So I would bury myself in study of the Catechism and other sources of Church teachings. There came a time that I faced the questions head on through prayer and meditation, and well, the rest is history. Also, to be quite blunt, what I saw representative on this board also was a small factor. I honestly dont think I can ever go back, having the realizations I now do. Perhaps I should back off of this board a bit, in giving it thought, nothing will be accomplished here.
Wow! You sound just like me 19 years ago. Oh the irony. You know, priests are NOT biblical experts. Most couldn’t defend the church effectively even if their life depended upon it. It’s just the truth. Now an apologist could do circles around knuckleheaded people trying to attack church teaching… It seems that our best apologist were not Catholic growing up.

So basing your Christian faith on the shirt tail of one or two or even 20 priests is just a fools game. I’ve been there. That’s why I’m giving it my all to learn apologetics as best I can. I’m still working things out… I do have knuckleheaded Protestant ways as you may see already. I have a tendency to UNUNCIATE!!! my faith as Father said to my wife once. He didn’t criticize me for it either. He just recognized it. My wife on the other hand is tired of people up and front constantly trying to convert others.

My guess is that you have not even truly studied the bible yet. I mean through and through… I read the bible through before I graduated from High School. I mean studied it. To clarify I read the Old Testament once and the New Testament 3 times before enter the semimary where I studied Old Testament among other courses. But I assure you the bible study that priests learn is shallow compared to that of bible school in college. But the difference is interpretation and Tradition since the historical Church, not some made up religion as you seem to be making up now. But that’s your choice.

Your “profile” should be changed now and should not deceive people by claiming to be a practicing Catholic. So what do you put now? I can think of several things. Why the “The Church of What’s Happening Now”?😉

“why not to night …why not tonight… wilt thou be saved … wilt thou be saved… then why not… oh why not tonight”😃
 
Coach with all due respect, your not Catholic, your constantly (directly & indirectly) attacking the Holy See. You’re obviously bitter. Clearly Bias. Your looking for a fight - how can anyone have a sensible conversation with someone who’s wound up in this way.

The Dalai Lama wouldn’t act this way – with bitterness.

Do you have anything good to say about the HOLY SEE & the POPE?
A Diocese?
A Parish?
A Priest?
A Deacon?
A Parishoner?
Anyone / anything…Catholic?
 
What were your specific questions about these “core” Church teachings?

You got poor answers? So you were scandalized by bad teachers?

You say you were a Catholic, and yet accepted your personal interpretations of personal revelation, via prayer and meditation, over those of the Magisterium?

You were scandalized by people on these boards?

You don’t THINK you can go back, or you CAN’T go back because you actually do now believe that which would prohibit you from “coming back”? Which is it?

I’m obviously a bit confused on what it is you were referring to in your above statements.
I will answer depending on what I feel your intent in asking is, and based on what I see so far, you seem to want confrontation more than understanding. If Im wrong, tell me and we can dialog.
 
I’ve tried to folow the conversation… but I too am a bit confused by what the coach is trying to say.

With all due respect Coach - I still have to ask.
… if your not Catholic why are you always on here? CAF (always)

Are you Bitter… about something?
Non-Catholic thread, so why surprised I am on here?
 
Coach with all due respect, your not Catholic, your constantly (directly & indirectly) attacking the Holy See. You’re obviously bitter. Clearly Bias. Your looking for a fight - how can anyone have a sensible conversation with someone who’s wound up in this way.

The Dalai Lama wouldn’t act this way – with bitterness.

Do you have anything good to say about the HOLY SEE & the POPE?
A Diocese?
A Parish?
A Priest?
A Deacon?
A Parishoner?
Anyone / anything…Catholic?
No, I seem to “fight” only with those whose posts require responses in kind, like yours for example. Please dont use a phrase like “with all due respect” when you arent offering any respect at all. The problem with many posts here is, they think thay they say it and thats it, but that is not the case. They think because Rome says it, that is it, all is above challenge. It is not.
Let me ask YOU, do YOU have anything good to say about anything non-Catholic? I may be wrong, and forgive please if I am, but werent you trying to slam and slander the Dalai Lama on another thread?
 
Non-Catholic thread, so why surprised I am on here?
I never mentioned “thread”

I said the “CAF”

This is a perfect example of why we can’t follow you along in a conversation.

Or is this your typical method of misdirection?

About the DL - are you still into that?
 
I’m not convinced that Coach is really Catholic. He doesn’t profess anything else and he seems ot have some fairly lame excuses for supposedly leaving the faith… Commmmoooooon… we’re on candid camera aren’t we… 😃
 
Wow! You sound just like me 19 years ago. Oh the irony. You know, priests are NOT biblical experts. Most couldn’t defend the church effectively even if their life depended upon it. It’s just the truth. Now an apologist could do circles around knuckleheaded people trying to attack church teaching… It seems that our best apologist were not Catholic growing up.

So basing your Christian faith on the shirt tail of one or two or even 20 priests is just a fools game. I’ve been there. That’s why I’m giving it my all to learn apologetics as best I can. I’m still working things out… I do have knuckleheaded Protestant ways as you may see already. I have a tendency to UNUNCIATE!!! my faith as Father said to my wife once. He didn’t criticize me for it either. He just recognized it. My wife on the other hand is tired of people up and front constantly trying to convert others.

My guess is that you have not even truly studied the bible yet. I mean through and through… I read the bible through before I graduated from High School. I mean studied it. To clarify I read the Old Testament once and the New Testament 3 times before enter the semimary where I studied Old Testament among other courses. But I assure you the bible study that priests learn is shallow compared to that of bible school in college. But the difference is interpretation and Tradition since the historical Church, not some made up religion as you seem to be making up now. But that’s your choice.

Your “profile” should be changed now and should not deceive people by claiming to be a practicing Catholic. So what do you put now? I can think of several things. Why the “The Church of What’s Happening Now”?😉

“why not to night …why not tonight… wilt thou be saved … wilt thou be saved… then why not… oh why not tonight”😃
The sketch I outlined was but a nutshell. I have and continue to study the Bible in depth. I also, at the time, studied apologetics. What religion exactly am I making up now? That portrayed by Jesus in Sacred Scripture? Are you on of those that think anything else other than the RCC is not valid? All other interetations are wrong if not from the RCC? THAT is a problem for me.
 
If your so enlightened why do you come here day after day?

Doesn’t the DL have a forum?
 
I never mentioned “thread”

I said the “CAF”

This is a perfect example of why we can’t follow you along in a conversation.

Or is this your typical method of misdirection?

About the DL - are you still into that?
NO, but I am sorry but if you dont like the answer. Let nme slow it down for you then and simplify. I am on the CAF to participate on THIS NON-Catholic thread. I used to go from time to time on some others, but am out of place on them now. And as far as your “respect” goes?
 
If your so enlightened why do you come here day after day?

Doesn’t the DL have a forum?
DL? Why do I come here? WHy, dear friend, its to awaken those of you who are still asleep! WHy do you think?
 
I’m not convinced that Coach is really Catholic. He doesn’t profess anything else and he seems ot have some fairly lame excuses for supposedly leaving the faith… Commmmoooooon… we’re on candid camera aren’t we… 😃
Lame? Wow, I thought you were different, but apparently not. SO your “sincere” attempts at dialog with me were just deception to try to do what? I have made it clear that I am no longer with the RCC, so why make your comment other than to try to belittle. You disappoint me.
 
DL? Why do I come here? WHy, dear friend, its to awaken those of you who are still asleep! WHy do you think?
Do you know how childish you sound?

I for one, am never, ever… going to waste another key stroke on you.

DL… Dolly Lama - Remember! Great Memory
 
How childish!

Oh yes … your **sorry **alright.
your usual MO, mores attacks and no acknowledgment. IS there a way I can block your posts from showing up for me, you tire me, and you do this sort of thing all the time. Love how you represent Catholicism though, it proves my points over and over!
 
your usual MO, mores attacks and no acknowledgment. IS there a way I can block your posts from showing up for me, you tire me, and you do this sort of thing all the time. Love how you represent Catholicism though, it proves my points over and over!
aww thecoach…you disappoint me.😦 …however, if you want to block someone…go to your profile and look for the ignore link:rolleyes:
 
your usual MO, mores attacks and no acknowledgment. IS there a way I can block your posts from showing up for me, you tire me, and you do this sort of thing all the time. Love how you represent Catholicism though, it proves my points over and over!
Attacks what attacks?
Show me.
More like defending the faith…if anything.

“Were all sleeping” That’s an attack (you even generalized - shows your bitterness) Ya… we’re all sleeping listening to the Pope.

I owe you nothing, if your going to attack my fellow Catholics.
What makes you think that I singularly prove your point (about all Catholics) how old are you? …really to say such an inclusive (bigoted) statement.

Show me how I attacked you…please.

Are we to lay down and take your buffoonery?

I’m charitable up to a point –If I cross that point I risk being a fool .
 
You sound like a LIB

As soon as you get hit back… its “hey your no Christian” “That’s not fair your supposed to take it – like a good Catholic”

Answer me this. Are you a LIB?
 
Attacks what attacks?
Show me.
More like defending the faith…if anything.

“Were all sleeping” That’s an attack (you even generalized - shows your bitterness) Ya… we’re all sleeping listening to the Pope.

I owe you nothing, if your going to attack my fellow Catholics.
What makes you think that I singularly prove your point (about all Catholics) how old are you? …really to say such an inclusive (bigoted) statement.

Show me how I attacked you…please.

Are we o lay down and take your buffoonery?

I’m charitable up to a point –If I cross that point I risk being a fool .
Youre serious? WIth such a post you dare ask how old I am? So you are going to “defend” your fellow Catholics? From what,the truth? I may enjoy this after all.
 
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