Former Planned Parenthood Worker: It Only Cares About Abortion

[asia53]

Actually, it did not change in 1973. If a woman presents with severe PID, she is given a Rx and some painkillers (remember severe PID) and told to go home. The course of treatment for extreme PID is hospitalization for IV antibiotics so that the fallopian tubes do not close. They cannot even diagnose. Nor do they care. One less problem taken care of.

I’ve heard the organization described as “evil” because of the abortion evil. But, they perform other evils.

You can be misdiagnosed by a DR, an ER, or a PA. That can happen anywhere at any time. Yeah, I remember, PID, also TSS. I have never seen statistics on PP misdiagnosis rate, so can’t comment about them. However, I’ve seen statistics on Doctor misdiagnosis rates for female gynecology issues in the 1960’s, and it was alarming. Hence, the beginning of PP.

Yes, PP did change in 1973----abortions became their focus instead of women’s healthcare, which was the original intent. At the beginning of PP, they did help women with their medical issues. Once Roe vs Wade became law, that all went by the wayside.

 

[RWMorris]

Well, anyone can say anything. Does not make what they say true. One of the ways you know this woman is lying, is that she refers to “prenatal care.” …

* not sure they are offering to do it, or offering information about it. I will ask my relative who works for PP.*First the woman is a liar, then when confronted with evidence otherwise, you must ask a relative, one who works for PP?
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
O, but she’ll keep her word.
Have you heard the argument? Is there no offence in’t?
No, no! They do but jest, poison in jest; no offence i’ the world.”

 

[TheRealJuliane]

I’n not sure they are offering to do it, or offering information about it. I will ask my relative who works for PP, but I’m sure she told me they don’t. I’m glad they were there for you, though. Perhaps it’s changed. I do know that for women who have fallen through the health insurance cracks, PP is the only source of health care they have.

Funny, isn’t it, that the founder of Planned Parenthood was a virulent racist who had as a goal to wipe out “human weeds” of black and brown-skinned people…and funny how they locate their clinics in minority communities.

The “only source of health care” is pure bacon sandwich. There are plenty of other clinics, many of them lower cost than PP or free. PP is not free.

Is this relative of yours Catholic?

 

[Castello]

Funny, isn’t it, that the founder of Planned Parenthood was a virulent racist who had as a goal to wipe out “human weeds” of black and brown-skinned people…and funny how they locate their clinics in minority communities.

The “only source of health care” is pure bacon sandwich. There are plenty of other clinics, many of them lower cost than PP or free. PP is not free.

Is this relative of yours Catholic?

AMEN.

How a Christian can give any support to Planned Parenthood - the McDonald’s of both abortions and contraceptives - is beyond me.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

You can be misdiagnosed by a DR, an ER, or a PA. That can happen anywhere at any time. Yeah, I remember, PID, also TSS. I have never seen statistics on PP misdiagnosis rate, so can’t comment about them. However, I’ve seen statistics on Doctor misdiagnosis rates for female gynecology issues in the 1960’s, and it was alarming. Hence, the beginning of PP.

Yes, PP did change in 1973----abortions became their focus instead of women’s healthcare, which was the original intent. At the beginning of PP, they did help women with their medical issues. Once Roe vs Wade became law, that all went by the wayside.

Hence the beginning of Planned Parenthood??? are you serious! Planned Parenthood was started by Margaret Sanger, a white supremacist whose stated mission it was to wipe out black and brown skinned Americans. It had NOTHING to do with doctor misdiagnosis rates!

Oh my gosh I cannot believe you two! You may as well be spokesmen for Planned Parenthood.

I know you are too brainwashed to watch this video. But someone lurking might decide to. It will shock you, disgust you and hopefully, drive you into action. The video has been researched and documented and all the facts within are true. There is no sensationalism whatsoever.

Maafa 21

And PP still gives out the Margaret Sanger Award to a public figure who has been influential in “choice.” Hillary Clinton was thrilled to receive it 2 years ago.

 

[Julia_Mae]

Please, Julia Mae, read my post very carefully. I know, people who have used PP’s services, I have never used their services.

Your relative may be right. Her branch of PP may not offer these services.

PP was founded in 1968, the original intent was to provide women with medical care, specifically for them. Bear in mind, this was the day when a woman told her male doctor, she was having female issues, she’d get a prescription for Valium faster than you can say, “Addict”. Roe vs Wade came along in 1973, and we all know what happened.

I agree. I did check, and as far as anyone local knows, no PP chapters or whatever they call them offer prenatal, it’s just not in their defined mission. They do referrals and try to educate women, esp women in poorer areas, why prenatal care is so important.

TheRealJuliane

I don’t know about the sonograms. As I said before, I’d like links to these sources. I do know that PP is constrained in various states from doing abortions past a certain number of weeks. I also know women will go out of their way to get around that rule. The sonograms are not for the patient, as I understand it, they are for the use of the doctors and staff to determine if the procedure is allowed.

 

[Julia_Mae]

Actually, it did not change in 1973. If a woman presents with severe PID, she is given a Rx and some painkillers (remember severe PID) and told to go home. The course of treatment for extreme PID is hospitalization for IV antibiotics so that the fallopian tubes do not close. They cannot even diagnose. Nor do they care. One less problem taken care of…

Again, could we have some evidence? Not that this happened once. But that it’s a common issue at PP?

 

[Julia_Mae]

First the woman is a liar, then when confronted with evidence otherwise, you must ask a relative, one who works for PP?
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

They don’t do it. I said I would check because I am not so arrogant as to think I cannot be mistaken. I did. I was not mistaken.

She’s lying. Prove otherwise.

 

[Julia_Mae]

Funny, isn’t it, that the founder of Planned Parenthood was a virulent racist who had as a goal to wipe out “human weeds” of black and brown-skinned people…and funny how they locate their clinics in minority communities.

The “only source of health care” is pure bacon sandwich. There are plenty of other clinics, many of them lower cost than PP or free. PP is not free.

Is this relative of yours Catholic?

I am entirely aware of the background of PP. And no, there are not “plenty of other clinics lower cost.” Planned Parenthood charges. If you cannot pay, you cannot pay, and still get service. Non-profits tend to work that way.

I have had this discussion numerous times before. Find a Planned Parenthood Parenthood Clinic and then map for me all the low cost (free) health clinics in a ten mile radius.

All of the claims in this thread, including the one made by the professional pro-life advocate, are without substantiation. If you went to a Protestant forum of a certain type and they started posting “facts” about priests abusing children or stealing the donations with no evidence at all, you’d be outraged.

I am not outraged. I am weary of seeing little effective done about abortion because everyone is tilting at a strawman.

 

[Julia_Mae]

And PP still gives out the Margaret Sanger Award to a public figure who has been influential in “choice.” Hillary Clinton was thrilled to receive it 2 years ago.

This is an excerpt from a Wiki article on Brown University:

The charter had more than sixty signatories, including the brothers John, Nicholas and Moses of the Brown family, who would later inspire the College’s modern name following a gift bestowed by Nicholas Brown, Jr.

The Brown family made a great deal of their money as slave traders. I think they give awards in the names of these men.

People aren’t cardboard cutouts of either good or evil. Sanger was a person of both admirable and less admirable characteristics. As we all are. She spent her life fighting for something she believed in, which was less this somewhat extreme characterization of her as a female Hitler and more a woman who wanted women to be respected and have some control of their bodies and reproduction.

You get to choose. That you choose according to your faith is fine, but you still have that choice. You have that choice in part, because Margaret Sanger was willing to go to jail to fight for that right.

I believe it makes more sense to find out what present day facts are than to demonize someone from the past.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

I am entirely aware of the background of PP. And no, there are not “plenty of other clinics lower cost.” Planned Parenthood charges. If you cannot pay, you cannot pay, and still get service. Non-profits tend to work that way.

I have had this discussion numerous times before. Find a Planned Parenthood Parenthood Clinic and then map for me all the low cost (free) health clinics in a ten mile radius.

All of the claims in this thread, including the one made by the professional pro-life advocate, are without substantiation. If you went to a Protestant forum of a certain type and they started posting “facts” about priests abusing children or stealing the donations with no evidence at all, you’d be outraged.

I am not outraged. I am weary of seeing little effective done about abortion because everyone is tilting at a strawman.

You say you are entirely aware of the background of Planned Parenthood? I challenge you to watch the video. If you say you are entirely aware of this material, then you are a racist, period. You cannot know this material and say there is anything redeemable about Planned Parenthood, from how it was founded to how it still carries out its mission.

Little effective done? With Catholics like you defending Planned Parenthood, that does the most abortions in the US if not worldwide, we have a lot to overcome.

Frankly, you make me ill.

 

[Julia_Mae]

You say you are entirely aware of the background of Planned Parenthood? I challenge you to watch the video. If you say you are entirely aware of this material, then you are a racist, period. You cannot know this material and say there is anything redeemable about Planned Parenthood, from how it was founded to how it still carries out its mission.

Little effective done? With Catholics like you defending Planned Parenthood, that does the most abortions in the US if not worldwide, we have a lot to overcome.

Frankly, you make me ill.

Well, first, your link is to a video with a blank screen and has nothing to do with the topic unless you want to understand the origin of eugenics. So, maybe go and find the link you intended for us to see.

Second, I am entirely aware of the background of Planned Parenthood. I know, for instance, that Katharine Hepburn’s mother was on the original Board of Directors, and that they recently raised a bit of money auctioning off some Kate memorabilia. I also know that judging people of the past based on the mores of the present is a poor idea. I know that a large portion of American’s were proNazi, for instance. Shall we write off every one of those people and anything they created that survives into today as evil?

Third, if I make you ill, then I need to remind you that all I asked for was data. What I see is a lot of rumor and gossip, repeated over and over as if it were factual, and no one bothering with the truth.

This issue cries out for objective information. It needs thoughtful concern and not a descent into outrage and emotionalism. The profit-motivated “pro-life movement” does all it can to rouse these kinds of sensibilities in decent people. They don’t want abortion to ever end, or your contributions end with them.

I used to give up on these threads but I’m not going to this time. Someone who posted something here, back up your assertions with evidence. I don’t mean about Sanger and history, I mean about present operation practices of this non-profit organization.

When you make the statement to be taken as fact, (“you” being editorial here) it is up to you to provide proof or at least substantiating data. No one cheated the government out of tens of millions of dollars in Medicaid money. No people who work at Planned Parenthood are getting rich off the murder of the unborn. No one I have heard of, has ever prioritzed abortion and there is no such “business plan.”

Unsubstantiated statements by former employees are not evidence of one thing.

I do have evidence, personal evidence, that members of the “pro-life” movement have called PP employees and manipulated them into saying things and then re-edited these taped conversations to make PP look like monsters and put them on You Tube to enrage you all further.

I know there is a sincere and dedicated prolife movement. I also now there are a bunch of scammers who want to sell you a lot of lies.

I am a proponent of truth, not abortion. If this makes anyone ill, I can do nothing to change that.

 

[Castello]

Julia Mae,

Is your relative at a high level at her Planned Parenthood facility? Is he/she a director?

Having served as a director and above at the corporate and at the non-prof level, I am aware of the dissemination of information down the org chart.

The standard policy in most orgs is that those staffers/employees/volunteers below the director level are not privy to the entire business plan? That business plans contain highly confidential material and is considered “need to know”.

Your relative may very well be ignorant of the things that a director would be aware of, if she asks directly to the director she would likely given the “company line”. ETA: if they are a director, they would not be permitted to tell YOU the full business plan.

The first thing to do is step back, if abortion were not key to their business model, why would they continue to fight so hard for it? Most companies, if they have a product or service that gives such bad press to the corporate image, that product is pulled (at least for a time to be rebranded/repackaged). Corporations only fight tooth and nail to defend what is a core value, what is strategic and an idealistic underpinning of those in the driver’s seat.

 

[Bearontherun]

I think that all of the past PP workers leaving and telling their stories should be given the benefit of the doubt until proven otheriwise. They need to be applauded for leaving their employment for the sake of their moral conviction…after all, any move that gives less power to an organization that kills babies is a step in the right direction.

 

[PatriceA]

It’s quite simple. Call your local PP and ask about having an abortion. Tell them you aren’t sure but want the information. Ask what days they can be scheduled. See if someone “urges” you to have one.

We have to be about Truth and that very often means finding out facts.

Decided to take action on your suggestion, just to see what I would experience. I could have an abortion scheduled at my local PP every day but Wednesdays and Sundays. I was “congratulated” on making the “right” decision. Also was asked if I was being “bullied” for being a lesbian because that is their newest “campaign.” They acted like I had just won a million dollar lottery. You might not define that as “urging” but it sure came across as “encouraging” in my definition of the experience.

 

[RWMorris]

… The Brown family made a great deal of their money as slave traders. I think they give awards in the names of these men. …

True, but the Brown family are no longer involved in the slave trade. If PP were to advocate for the rights of the unborn, or at least renounce abortion except in the so-called “rape, incest, life of the mother” situations, you might notice a different attitude toward “Margaret Sanger Awards”.

 

[Julia_Mae]

Julia Mae,

Is your relative at a high level at her Planned Parenthood facility? Is he/she a director?

Yes.

. ETA: if they are a director, they would not be permitted to tell YOU the full business plan.

Some folks are not just relatives, they are intimate friends. Yes, I know things I shouldn’t. None of those things I know, and would not repeat, support any of the contentions of this thread.

The first thing to do is step back, if abortion were not key to their business model, why would they continue to fight so hard for it?

People have been referring to the history of Planned Parenthood. Whatever else we say about the founder, the basic driving principle always retained is about choice. Whatever we believe about the soul and the zygote, is a religious belief. They fight for the freedom of choice. Keep in mind that if abortions are stopped, then what’s next? Birth control pills obviously. Condoms next? I don’t find that fighting for the right to choose supports that they have an abortion agenda.

Most companies, if they have a product or service that gives such bad press to the corporate image, that product is pulled (at least for a time to be rebranded/repackaged).

What part of “non-profit organization” is it that I cannot seem to make clear here? This is not a “company” nor a “business” no matter how many times people insist on mislabeling it as such.

 

[Julia_Mae]

I think that all of the past PP workers leaving and telling their stories should be given the benefit of the doubt until proven otheriwise. They need to be applauded for leaving their employment for the sake of their moral conviction…

If that’s why they left. It’s not like the organization can tell you they were fired or why.

 

[the_phoenix]

I think that all of the past PP workers leaving and telling their stories should be given the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. They need to be applauded for leaving their employment for the sake of their moral conviction…after all, any move that gives less power to an organization that kills babies is a step in the right direction.

:clapping:

 

[Julia_Mae]

Decided to take action on your suggestion, just to see what I would experience. I could have an abortion scheduled at my local PP every day but Wednesdays and Sundays. I was “congratulated” on making the “right” decision. Also was asked if I was being “bullied” for being a lesbian because that is their newest “campaign.” They acted like I had just won a million dollar lottery. You might not define that as “urging” but it sure came across as “encouraging” in my definition of the experience.

Patrice, PM me the number and I’ll call them and confirm. I’m a bit curious why anyone would think you are a lesbian if you are wanting to terminate a pregnancy you would have had to go to a great deal of trouble to attain.