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What is the approved formula for absolution in the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church? I can’t seem to find it anywhere online
It is indeed. The Eastern Churches tend to have a number of forms of absolution. The one Constantine posted is the less Latinized version. I believe the Melkites actually have a couple of official forms, but I’ll have to look it up again.I went to a UGCC priest who usually gives me absolution in Ukrainian (which from the Ukrainian I understand is what you have posted above) but last time he gave it in English and said “May God absolve you of your sins in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.”
Is this valid?
Also note that there could be variations based on translations. Its possible the priest might be using an older form than what I posted.Oh okay good. I was a little worried there. I tend to be a scrupe… I didn’t expect a UGCC priest to be doing anything that was unapproved though. I once received a form of absolution from a latin priest and I consulted one of my priest friends about it and he actually told me to find another priest and reconfess because the priest had changed it up so much.
Wow - I wondered what prompted your initial question - now we know.I once received a form of absolution from a latin priest and I consulted one of my priest friends about it and he actually told me to find another priest and reconfess because the priest had changed it up so much.
The question was not about the form of the prayers used by the person confessing, but the form used by the priest. It is my understanding that the priest must use the approved formulas for absolution of his Church sui iuris for validity. Again, I know that I am going to be accused of being very Latin and scholastic, but hey…Patriarch Josef Slipyj was a Thomist.By extension, are we now going to argue that a confession made by a Latin Catholic to Ukrainian (or other Eastern) Catholic priest, or vice versa, using their prayers and acts of contrition are not valid absolutions?!
The Latin custom of doing it in a confessional is to aid the penitent to be able to make a complete and anonymous confession without fear of being heard by other people or identified by the priest.Must be reasons for Catholics to go to dark room - do you know why?? Perhaps more fear of priests? Perhaps more shame feeling for sins??
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I have to agree with Volodymyr here. Of course as Latin Catholic I have been to many face-to-face confessions. I don’t know why we need to be anonymous to the priest. If we are truly repentant, then we shouldn’t be afraid to hide our face but instead show its remorse and willingness to accept instruction.Anonymous Confession
Very different for us. Our priest is our Father. We call him that. God let him often know what I need to say before I say it - because he knows me well. Other people not able to hear. Also small little dark room is frightful for many - they say so here. Dread of going to confessiosn - often!
Face to face?? You do not look at priest, you look at cross and evangelion in front of icon Christ! You are face to face with Christ! Cozy is strange word for me but confession of sins and cozy - ?? - what is this some kind humor?? or a pun??I LIKE that nice, cozy, dark (maybe, maybe not) confessional. And I don’t think I could manage to confess to a priest I would see again if it were face-to-face. Just sayin’…
This is correct. I think the symbolism in the Eastern Church is spot on with what is the theology. The priest acts like an arbiter and stands beside you while you face the icon of Christ because Christ is the only judge of our souls.Face to face?? You do not look at priest, you look at cross and evangelion in front of icon Christ! You are face to face with Christ! Cozy is strange word for me but confession of sins and cozy - ?? - what is this some kind humor?? or a pun??
Many Latin confessionals have a crucifix on the screen between the priest and penitent. In principle it is a similar concept. In any rite the sacrament of penance is an intimate encounter with Christ through the mediation of his ordained minister. In Our Lord’s revelations to St Faustina (divine mercy), He calls the confessional the “tribunal of my mercy” - it is indeed true, West or East, to refer to Christ as the sole judge acting through and in the sacrament.This is correct. I think the symbolism in the Eastern Church is spot on with what is the theology. The priest acts like an arbiter and stands beside you while you face the icon of Christ because Christ is the only judge of our souls.