Foul Language Sinful?

[e_c]

Why are you calling liberty evil? Freedom of speech is one of our most cherished rights. You have a fascist interpretation of Christianity. This is similar to the extreme fascist interpretation of Islam.

If you are shocked by these posts, you should try reading Scripture some time.

If there is anything fascist in the Gospel, then there is something good in fascism.

The Sacred Page is a first principle… The Bill of Rights ain’t. Chill…

 

[RPRPsych]

Good for you. All fascists in this thread should realize that vulgar language is a creation of man. Don’t tread on me! Long live the Bill of Rights! Long live pure Christianity!

:hypno::doh2:

Gay “marriage” is also a creation of man. WhatCHA think about it? Should we support it too?

 

[Monica4316]

There is a quote in the bible where Jesus addresses vulgar language. To put it this way the quote is, a very harsh thing.

Do you remember the verse? I can’t think of it

 

[AXO]

Why are you calling liberty evil?

Who has done it?

Freedom of speech is one of our most cherished rights.

Undisputed.

You have a fascist interpretation of Christianity. This is similar to the extreme fascist interpretation of Islam.

What is a “fascist interpretation of Christianity”?

 

[Churchman25]

Its “your words you will be jugded and your words you will be condemned” something like this.

 

[Tighty_Whitey]

Its “your words you will be jugded and your words you will be condemned” something like this.

Thanks, I hope I/we can track this down.

 

[pianistclare]

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But now you must put them all away: anger, fury, malice, slander, and obscene language out of your mouths.

Colossians 3:8

Also:

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“Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.”

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Ephesians 5:4

 

[Churchman25]

biblehub.com/matthew/12-37.htmIv found the actual quote

“For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.”

 

[Reuben_J]

Of course taking the Lord’s name in vain is prohibited but is using foul language sinful? If it is, why? Foul language would include lots of common swear words and expressions.

Thank you for your reply.

Using foul language is unchristian and therefore wrong. It can be sinful.

*Matthew 12:37
For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.

Proverbs 10:19
When there are many words, transgression is unavoidable, But he who restrains his lips is wise.

Proverbs 12:13
An evil man is ensnared by the transgression of his lips, But the righteous will escape from trouble.

Proverbs 13:2
From the fruit of a man’s mouth he enjoys good, But the desire of the treacherous is violence.

Proverbs 13:3
The one who guards his mouth preserves his life; The one who opens wide his lips comes to ruin.

Proverbs 21:23
He who guards his mouth and his tongue, Guards his soul from troubles.

Isaiah 3:10
Say to the righteous that it will go well with them, For they will eat the fruit of their actions.

Proverbs 18:21
The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit.*

 

[Monica4316]

Thanks for all the verses!

 

[pianistclare]

yup.
The bottom line is…most curses/swearing is meant to denigrate.
Not uplift.
When you view foul language through the lens of charity…no bueno. :nope:

That’s why it’s “foul”.

 

[truetofaith]

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But now you must put them all away: anger, fury, malice, slander, and obscene language out of your mouths.

Colossians 3:8

Also:

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“Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.”

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Ephesians 5:4

Thank you, pianistclare …these quotes should put this thread to rest!

 

[Beryllos]

I am fighting for liberty. That is all I am doing. I do not mean to insult anyone.

How do you define liberty? It seems to me that legal abortion, gay marriage, and legal marijuana are manifestations of liberty, but that doesn’t make them good.

 

[Church_Militant]

Here’s a good context.

***Matthew 12: *** ***[33] Either make the tree good and its fruit good: or make the tree evil, and its fruit evil. For by the fruit the tree is known. [34] O generation of vipers, how can you speak good things, whereas you are evil? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. [35] A good man out of a good treasure bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of an evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. [36] But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment. [37] For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

***Every idle word is pretty specific and unambiguous.

As for other suggestions…
***Galatians 5:13
For you, brethren, have been called unto liberty: only make not liberty an occasion to the flesh, but by charity of the spirit serve one another.

***1 Corinthians 8:9
But take heed lest perhaps this your liberty become a stumblingblock to the weak.

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James 2:12
So speak ye, and so do, as being to be judged by the law of liberty.

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1 Peter 2:16
As free, and not as making liberty a cloak for malice, but as the servants of God.

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2 Peter 2:19
Promising them liberty, whereas they themselves are the slaves of corruption. For by whom a man is overcome, of the same also he is the slave.

 

[Rosebud77]

May I please define that there are two elements to this? One is how we address others and/or speak in public, the other in private.

I have never sworn at anyone or in public nor ever would. Twice in the last years my car with me in it has been rammed by young men, AllI shouted when I realised a collision was unavoidable and death could come was JESUS! And all I could say to the men involved was STUPID! Which they were In the second case it was an Italian tourist on the wrong side of the road and he was dreadfully upset so an Australian and I helped him fill the paperwrok out and make sure he was OK… and never a cross word

In private,alone can be a different matter which is why I am addicted to BANANAS! It acknowledges that there is provocation and reason with keeping some humour in the situation … No I will never praise the Lord for a wound. But that is my way. What matters most to me is how we are to others, and I HATE AND ABHHOR the habit many here have of larding every other word with f***. I have even see it painted on black plastic covered sileage bales stored near the road

 

[Mary_Ellen]

And the tongue is a flame of fire. It is a whole world of wickedness, corrupting your entire body. It can set your whole life on fire, for it is set on fire by hell itself. People can tame all kinds of animals, birds, reptiles, and fish, but no one can tame the tongue. It is restless and evil, full of deadly poison. Sometimes it praises our Lord and Father, and sometimes it curses those who have been made in the image of God. **James 3:6-9 **

Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them. **Ephesians 4:29 **

Avoid worthless, foolish talk that only leads to more godless behavior.** 2 Timothy 2:16 **

While the use of foul language may not in and of itself be a sin, use of it towards another usually expresses anger which is very, very often at the very least a sin against the virtue of Charity.

Also, look at the real meaning of many of the words that are used as foul language. These are foul words for a reason - they treat what should be sacred with the utmost disrespect. Using these words just continues the cycle of degrading the sacred.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

yup.
The bottom line is…most curses/swearing is meant to denigrate.
Not uplift.
When you view foul language through the lens of charity…no bueno. :nope:

That’s why it’s “foul”.

Do you find the phrase " what the heck Bob?" Sinful or foul?

 

[Sky_River]

I’d say its wrong. All such language either denigrates another person or the human body which God made or it is vulgar and not compatible with holiness. If you can’t imagine saying something in front of Our Lord or if you can’t imagine a Saint saying it, then we shouldn’t say it. Some words are merely descriptive but become swear words in another contexts. Other words like the F word should not be said in any context IMO.

What do you think makes certain words for sex or the human body/functions acceptable and other words that mean the same exact thing, foul? Is there a reason beyond taboo why saying sex is not vulgar, but saying the f word is?

 

[truetofaith]

What do you think makes certain words for sex or the human body/functions acceptable and other words that mean the same exact thing, foul? Is there a reason beyond taboo why saying sex is not vulgar, but saying the f word is?

There are certain words you hear in the street by slime-ball people and they are not to be said in public.
We need the Legion of Decency again for movies & TV !

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

There are certain words you hear in the street by slime-ball people and they are not to be said in public.
We need the Legion of Decency again for movies & TV !

The use of the word slime ball to denigrate others is rather funny given the subject!