Four Ukrainian Bishops Consecrated Without Mandate Of Rome Or Major-Archbishop

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Lord, grant the Holy Father wisdom and strength that a schism will be avoided.
  1. Who consecrated these bishops? The article was not clear.
  2. Would these bishops be regarded as “Latinizing” types?
  3. They have made many several accusations against HE Husar. Are any of them true? It says HE Husar drove out a bishop from his See - or did I misread that?
I pray our Ukrainian brethren can give us some reliable information.

Blessings,
Marduk
 
This really IS the eastern version of FSSPX, named “the Society of St Josaphat”, as far as I know.
 
They were ordained priests in the years 1972, 1996, 1997, and 2000

No chance a man ordained a priest only 8 years is ready to lead a flock. I would go as far to say that the content of their letter shows a spiritual immaturity and misunderstanding of the situation.
 
I wonder if we are talking of the same Catholic Church.

I once went to Mass at a Ukraine Catholic Church but I am not positive it is a Church that is part of the Archdiocese of which I live of Minneapolis/St. Paul (please see link archspm.org/html/prshnam.html ). As from the little you can tell from the picture from the link below, it is an exquisite building.

stconstantine.com/ Here is there link. It shows Mass and Confessions schedule. So, I honestly wonder if it is an Orthodox Church or Roman Catholic. I believe I did obtain a Prayer Book from there which appeared Catholic.
 
Their complaints are of the delatinizations. While not FSSJ, they would easily find like minds there.

Their consecrators should also be punished.
 
St. Constantine’s in Minneapolis is most definitely a parish in good standing in the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church within the Eparchy of St. Nicholas and is in full communion with Rome. Fr. Michael Stelmach, the pastor, is a Protobresbyter as well.

These illicit bishops are not part of the “Society of St. Josaphat”. Incidentally, with the recent reconciliation of the “Transalpine Redemptorists” with Rome a significant priestly support network was cut from the SSJ.
FDRLB
 
**I once went to Mass at a Ukraine Catholic Church but I am not positive it is a Church that is part of the Archdiocese of which I live of Minneapolis/St. Paul (please see link archspm.org/html/prshnam.html ). As from the little you can tell from the picture from the link below, it is an exquisite building.

stconstantine.com/ Here is there link. It shows Mass and Confessions schedule. So, I honestly wonder if it is an Orthodox Church or Roman Catholic. I believe I did obtain a Prayer Book from there which appeared Catholic.**

**Ukrainian Catholics in the USA would NOT be part of any Latin Diocese.

Nor would Melkites, Maronites, Ruthenian Byzantine Catholics, Romanians, Syro-Malabar, Chaldean, or Syriac Catholics.**
 
The very rubrics of the Rite of Episcopal Ordination (as well as Diaconal and Presbyteral) allow for only ONE to be so ordained at a time. How could they do 4?

Furthermore, unless specifically authorized by competent authority (as when St. Innocent was directed by the Holy Synod of the Russian Church to perform a solo consecration), there must be three consecrators, or at least 2 with the canonical consent of a third.
 
Diak and bpbasilphx:

I thank you for your answers and anyone else who helped in the question.

The Northeast of Minneapolis, where I did not grow up is really a longtime settlement of so many Eastern European ethnic groups. When I first moved up here, well, I had to see the many different Churches up there including straight Orthodox because it was new to me. I have Polish heritage.

Your answers were very helpful and the best of this Holiday season to you.
 
**I once went to Mass at a Ukraine Catholic Church but I am not positive it is a Church that is part of the Archdiocese of which I live of Minneapolis/St. Paul (please see link archspm.org/html/prshnam.html ). As from the little you can tell from the picture from the link below, it is an exquisite building.

stconstantine.com/ Here is there link. It shows Mass and Confessions schedule. So, I honestly wonder if it is an Orthodox Church or Roman Catholic. I believe I did obtain a Prayer Book from there which appeared Catholic.**

**Ukrainian Catholics in the USA would NOT be part of any Latin Diocese.

Nor would Melkites, Maronites, Ruthenian Byzantine Catholics, Romanians, Syro-Malabar, Chaldean, or Syriac Catholics.**
Only on paper, Father Bishop, only on paper. A great many areas have a smattering of eastern catholics who, lacking recourse to a parish of same rite, let alone church, find the only recourse to be through the ordinary of the place, a definition which, outside the traditional areas, generally means the Latin Ordinary.

Even when there is a nominal Eastern Catholic Bishop of the same church (as is the case for Ruthenians, Ukrainians, Melkites, Maronites, Chaldeans, and Romanians), when there is no presence in the community save the Latin presence, they fall to the pastoral care (but not canonical enrollment within the diocese, Church and Rite) of the local Roman Ordinary.

Now, for example, take the Ruthenian Parish in Anchorage, St. Nicholas. When relief was needed for mandated vacation and retreat, the Archeparchy was unable to provide; the Latin Ordinary provided, and a priest was trained to be biritual.

20+ years later, that same priest is now incardinated in the Eparchy of Van Nuys… since he’s the Pastor.

And he serves a mission in Wasilla, and parishioners drive from Talkeetna (70m north of the mission) and Girdwood (60mi from the parish), covering some 160+ miles along the road. The parish, however, is defined as serving the state of Alaska… (that was the original charge to the founding priests by Bishop Elko.)

But in Fairbanks, there is no EC parish presence, and for all intents, any EC’s in Fairbanks (350 miles from Anchorage) are entirely at the mercy of the Latin Bishop of Fairbanks for receipt of the Sacraments. They are canonically still under the appropriate bishops, but lacking access, they still file their requests through the latin ordinary, since to him they have access, and in his parishes they practice the faith.

A number of them in Fairbanks are subject to yet another “overlapping jurisdiction”, entirely roman: the Military Ordinariate. Of the 5 EC’s I’ve met in Fairbanks, 4 were military, and one was a convert who wished to remain Russian Rite, and was a college student. I’ve met these people through SCA and KofC events. The Military Personell are under the pastoral care of the Latin Hierarch for the US Military Ordinariate, no matter their church of Canonical Enrollment. Their pastors are latin, an the bishops to whom their pastors answer are latin, even tho’ they themselves are not, and so their access to the sacraments is through the graces of their latin hierarch, despit that not being their “proper” hierarch.

(Truth be told, some of them practice in the ROC or AOC…)
 
The Military Personell are under the pastoral care of the Latin Hierarch for the US Military Ordinariate, no matter their church of Canonical Enrollment.

There was for years a Vicar for Eastern Catholics in the Military Ordinariate, who was a Melkite priest of my acquaintance.
 
The Military Personell are under the pastoral care of the Latin Hierarch for the US Military Ordinariate, no matter their church of Canonical Enrollment.
There was for years a Vicar for Eastern Catholics in the Military Ordinariate, who was a Melkite priest of my acquaintance.
Just a clarification…in the US the Armed Forces fall under a special archdiocese, not a regular military ordinariate as is the case in most countries. As far as I know, this is the only non-geographical archdiocese in the Catholic Church. See -
milarch.org/
 
😦 I personally do not understand the comments on the combox for the blog in the OP. Its a sad state of affairs when the legitimate head of a Sui Irus church is criticized and illegitimate Bishops who wish to impose their views are praised . At least the SSPX makes no claim to jurisdiction, but these four , I have read, attempted to remove a Bishop by force and demanded to be named Bishops of certain sees. Its disgraceful…
 
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